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Or is it just me thinking the narrative being pushe& by the media around Louis is wrong??

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PutinSmellsPassItOn · 05/06/2022 23:11

I know, I know. Born into a life of privelage blah, blah, blah.. But it isn't a life they ask for.

Personally I think the children in the royal family should be kept out of the spotlight until they're adults and can decide what they want to do. They should just be kids until then. Maybe with the odd photo released with granny or whatever.
I can see history repeating itself with the 'rebel prince' that his uncle went through........I cant help but wonder what the hell his parents are thinking allowing this. 😳 It didnt work out well for Harry who was used to deflect attention away from the shit his brother was getting up to for years 😬

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Dinoteeth · 06/06/2022 00:15

For formal occasions the RF always put the kids in 'classic' clothes. They know those pictures will be dragged out in 60 or 70 years and don't want the topic of conversation to be the fashion.

His suit isn't really much different from going to school in a blazer, trousers and tie

Kanaloa · 06/06/2022 00:15

There is a whole section on mumsnet where you can obsess over these people. Realistically I’ll save my sympathy for the kids in my socially and economically deprived area, or kids growing up in foster care as I did, or kids from poorer or war torn countries. You can bet your bottom dollar not one of the royal family are worried about YOUR kids or any kids like them, so I wouldn’t waste your sympathy on their ‘poor’ kids.

Dinoteeth · 06/06/2022 00:18

Thatswhyimacat · 06/06/2022 00:13

@Antarcticant I feel ignorant, who is the child in this photo?

A very young and bored Prince Charles at his mums Coronation. His Granny Queen Mother on one side and Auntie Princess Margaret on the other.

Kanaloa · 06/06/2022 00:20

And also if you are really ever so worried about poor little royal kids and how the media uses their image - boycott it. Don’t start internet threads obsessing over them. Don’t buy magazines with their images in them or newspapers with articles about them. Don’t click on their photos on social media, don’t follow and like their posts. You’re proving there’s a market for it, so people will continue to be interested in their lives and they’ll continue to think they’re interesting and special and more important than anybody else.

TambourineOfRepentance · 06/06/2022 00:23

Bringing up children in a media spotlight is never a good idea. I mean, there's also a wider problem of grooming them into an archaic, redundant role from birth. Thousands of people turning out to gawk and scream at you probably isn't great for you either.

But, hey ho. So long as people find it cute.

Thatswhyimacat · 06/06/2022 00:24

@Dinoteeth thank you, I thought it must be Charles but didn't recognise Margaret and only vaguely recognised Queen Mum.

SchoolThing · 06/06/2022 00:25

What narrative?

The only question that came to mind was how a child of Harry and Meghan would be viewed if revealed in the sme way. 💯 it would be negative.

Dinoteeth · 06/06/2022 00:27

Or at least I think ita Margaret I can't think who else it would be.

LicoricePizza · 06/06/2022 00:28

Silverswirl · 06/06/2022 00:07

Because it’s expected and the price to pay for being directly in line to the throne?!

Obviously - but nonetheless quite a burden for a young child to grapple with. Surely you can empathise with that?

“From all the signs and signals, it does seem likely that the future Elizabeth II had acquired a realistic idea of what lay ahead for her by the age of seven - at least three years before the abdication.
Interestingly, the age of seven was when Prince William is said to have revealed the same challenging reality to his son George - at the latest moment before the boy was likely to be confronted with the truth in his London school playground.
Like Charles, his father, William has voiced mixed feelings at being saddled with knowing his regal destiny from his earliest awareness. He wanted George to enjoy just a few years of relative normality - and maybe that instinct for the normal is what the Queen's early succession-free years granted her. She might have been elevated to the role of captain, but she never forgot she had started as a player in the team”

From
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60201088

If you’re interested.

If it were so easy a burden to bear why have virtually all younger royals married “commoners” and so many (like Anne’s kids etc) chosen to live as normal lives as possible??

Being royal is quite toxic unfortunately. It has screwed up quite a lot of them. It depends on the person & if they can handle yes having ridiculous wealth but having to live your life with ridiculous restrictions. It’s kind of hard watching how carefree George’s siblings can be while seeing how serious & responsible he has to be.

Staffy1 · 06/06/2022 00:34

It didnt work out well for Harry who was used to deflect attention away from the shit his brother was getting up to for years

What? Examples please. I don’t think there is a danger of history repeating itself as Louis doesn’t have to feel like a spare on his own, he has a sister in the same position.

Thatswhyimacat · 06/06/2022 00:40

Staffy1 · 06/06/2022 00:34

It didnt work out well for Harry who was used to deflect attention away from the shit his brother was getting up to for years

What? Examples please. I don’t think there is a danger of history repeating itself as Louis doesn’t have to feel like a spare on his own, he has a sister in the same position.

The main one is the rumour that William also attended the infamous Nazi fancy dress party in similar costume. Also that his various drunken uni shenanigans were always covered by a Harry equivalent. And then that the vitriol against Harry and Megan is to cover for his affair.

I find most of this plausible but obviously there's no proof because of the nature of cover ups.

Dinoteeth · 06/06/2022 00:45

@LicoricePizza I think Prince William was told by a class mate rather than his parents that he'd be king one day.

Although I don't see how they can keep it from the kids for any length of time. Great Granny it's queen after all.

Staffy1 · 06/06/2022 00:46

Thatswhyimacat · 06/06/2022 00:40

The main one is the rumour that William also attended the infamous Nazi fancy dress party in similar costume. Also that his various drunken uni shenanigans were always covered by a Harry equivalent. And then that the vitriol against Harry and Megan is to cover for his affair.

I find most of this plausible but obviously there's no proof because of the nature of cover ups.

Interesting. I don’t find any of it plausible, because the royal family have never been very successful at hiding things from the press before, look at the embarrassing details that came out about Charles phone call to Camilla. If there was any truth in these rumours you can guarantee the media would have had a ball with them.

Staffy1 · 06/06/2022 00:49

Just to add, I don’t believe any of the ludicrous things that are sometimes said about Meghan, with no proof to back them up, for the same reason. Examples being that she’s actually older than she says and that she was never pregnant. (I did warn you they were ludicrous).

LicoricePizza · 06/06/2022 00:52

Dinoteeth · 06/06/2022 00:45

@LicoricePizza I think Prince William was told by a class mate rather than his parents that he'd be king one day.

Although I don't see how they can keep it from the kids for any length of time. Great Granny it's queen after all.

My point wasn’t that he shouldn’t have been told, but that it’s an incredible burden that’s all. The quote was used to highlight the burden element. In response to a PP.

Silverswirl · 06/06/2022 00:55

Oh yes. Absolutely - it’s pretty hideous really. An incredibly privileged life with endless experiences wealth and admiration lavished on you, but with no real freedom and restriction on your every move. It’s giving your life up, your free life. Except it was never yours to give up.
As I said above, nothing comes for free!

lameasahorse · 06/06/2022 01:02

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Pikafuckingwho · 06/06/2022 01:08

As I understood it, George is dressed very formally for events and then wears normal every day clothes out and about so he is harder to recognise. Although a friends son played football against him recently and she said the entire sidelines were full of parents trying to sneak photos of him.

Notadogowner · 06/06/2022 01:33

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Also, the RF and the press have a very delicate relationship, and report stories based on how that relationship is going.

For example, yes they could have broken the story on William’s affair, but instead they were given free reign to write stories on Meghan with “leaks” from the Royal Household. At the same time, many of the journalists responsible for the negativity against Meghan also had first dibs on anything to do with W&K, in return for staying quiet about the affair.

I was young when Charles and Tampongate happened so I don’t know much about it, but the press had it for a few years before they released it. I guess the question is why did they feel the need to target Charles at that time when they had several years to do so. I suspect it was to get sympathy for Diana, but the press are really clever in what they do, and it’s often coordinated with the Royal Family.

marblemad · 06/06/2022 01:43

They literally never bring them out so quite frankly you are talking out of your a*se. It is their great grandmothers last jubilee (potentially) and a great opportunity for them to be part of. Children act like children no matter what, I salute Will and Kate for allowing them to be part of it and handle the lengthy celebrations and minor outbursts very well as parents.

EddyF · 06/06/2022 01:48

If that was Archie, the feedback from press/Twitter would have been AWFUL.

Kanaloa · 06/06/2022 02:06

EddyF · 06/06/2022 01:48

If that was Archie, the feedback from press/Twitter would have been AWFUL.

Well yeeeess but maybe if he was a lovely white British child and properly fit to be in the wonderful and amazing and fantastic and beautiful royal family, and not the spawn of that mixed race devil woman who tried to climb out of her proper place he’d be an adorable little ‘cheeky chappie.’

Kanaloa · 06/06/2022 02:07

Oh sorry, forgot to add mixed race AMERICAN woman. Just to make it a bit worse too.

JerichoGirl · 06/06/2022 02:08

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