Will Charles abdicate?

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Just that really, do you think Charles will abdicate and pass to William?

They seem to be priming William & Kate to take on the roles and are much more public then Charles

YANBU - yes he will
YABU - no he won’t

@dudsville he was forced to abdicate and remained bitter and twisted about it til his death. He was also an open supporter of the nazi party and friend of Hitler. I wouldn’t waste an ounce of your respect on him. Of all the loathsome bunch he must rank as one of the most loathsome of them all.

He's waited over 70 years for this job.

No he won't abdicate unless he's forced out by the abolition of the monarchy. I can't see that happening though in his reign. Hopefully Wills will be the last though.

Of course not.

Charles has waited his whole entire life for this, and he's shown himself to be pretty ruthless (the book talking about what a terrible mum the Queen was, the media campaign against the mother of his own children, his feud with his brother Andrew, his feud with his brother Edward and refusal to honour his late father's request that Edward be given the title Duke of Edinburgh, leaking and press briefing against his own sons). He's not going to give up his life's purpose.

Realistically William is nowhere near ready to be monarch. He and Kate are both completely workshy and just embarrassingly lazy, neither of them have an ounce of work ethic. (40 and no significant projects from either of them, and the are both consistently out-worked by royals who are elderly!) William is so famous for his anger and rage problems that even the pro-William press have reported widely on it. He's gone to war with the press so many times and has lied and threatened the press (lying about covid, Tatler incident) that even the most bootlicking royal reporters have tweeted about the damage "William's lies and threats" have done to the RF's relationship with the press. Part of being Monarch is learning to keep your mouth shut "never explain never complain" and learn how to get along with the press. And of course Will and Kate's latest luxury scuba diving vacation pretending to be a work trip was a complete disaster and humiliation for them.

@JemimaPuddlegoose now I’m dying to know what the Covid Tatler incident is 😄

I think he has been a king in waiting for so long ,that he will defo be having a bash at the top job! Wiils and Kate are a young family, and would not welcome this ATM.

No, and why should be? He’s spent years waiting to take on the job, and already passed retirement age. Let William & Catherine raise their children first, they don’t need the added responsibility right now

He’s got a lot of soft power, diplomatic ties and the ability to have his own opinions and pet projects at the moment. Would he give all that up for the the hat and the chair? A strong/smart man would stick with what he’s grown and let William step into the king position.

I still don't understand this reasoning about letting Will and Kate raise their young children first. I'm not at all in favor of Charles abdicating, but having raised small children (successfully, I think) while working full time at a fairly demanding job, along with nearly everyone I know, and without nannies, cooks, and butlers, I really do think it would not be unreasonable to expect a healthy couple in their early 40s to be able to handle it all.

Plenty of people both under and over 40, wealthy or not work long days and often struggle to juggle.

Poor lambs in waiting, William and his wife don't need our platitudes. They should be ready to take over right now if the need arises. Charles could get an illness who knows?

I am a bit fed up with all this sympathy for a totally coddled family.

Charles is fine to be monarch next, and that’s what will happen. But of course, Will and Kate don’t need to raise their children first -if need be. Millions of people raise their children while holding down jobs. It’s right that all adults should have added responsibilities, apart from just raising their children. And it’s not like they have the added responsibility of money worries, or trying to get a plumber to turn up to give you a quote. Anyone who can’t do that would be deemed a bit dysfunctional.

Yes raising their family must be super tough with all those staff, all that money and never having to go to work 🙄. Man I don’t know how they cope 🤬.

I must take issue with some of your first paragraph. The dukedom of Edinburgh is not within Charles's gift as things stand, the reasoning given is that the Queen does not wish Edward to have it within her lfetime as she is still de facto Duchess of Edinburgh herself and for her there will only ever be one Duke of Edinburgh. He will get it when she dies as that is her express wish. As to the rest, the fact that he cannot stand Andrew seems entirely reasonable, the battle with Princess Diana was mutual, she spent even more time denigrating him than he did her. A small suggestion; stop using the word 'feud' it makes you sound like a tabloid.
As to the second paragraph, hmmm. I can see where that's coming from, some of it anyway. I hope you are wrong but fear that you are right.

I haven’t rtft but I very much doubt it

That would be funny.

Imagine them all abdicating in turn, until we were left with someone really obscure as monarch.

The dukedom of Edinburgh is not within Charles's gift as things stand, the reasoning given is that the Queen does not wish Edward to have it within her lfetime as she is still de facto Duchess of Edinburgh herself and for her there will only ever be one Duke of Edinburgh.

Actually, by virtue of the Letters Patent creating Philip Duke of Edinburgh, Charles is the current D of E. When he becomes King, the title will merge with the Crown, and it will be available to bestow on Edward, if that is Charles's choice. It can't be given to anyone else while Charles holds the title.

King Harald V (of Norway) and III (of England, bar minor spelling differences) and I (of the bits that aren't Norway or England)? That could be an interesting Union.

If he had any sense he would.

But no. He's been primed for this since birth. Not a chance will he give it up. It's all about his own gratification.

Interesting. The letters patent actually say 'heirs male'. Even if it is completely cut and dried that Charles is the incumbent he cannot hand it over until it is vacated by him becoming king. It will be a poor show if he doesn't!
Thank you for your valid correction.

No,
He has been waiting to be king his whole life. Why would he give it up?

Off topic, but why is Kate Middleton suddenly being called Catherine by everyone? I only ever heard Kate until about 6 months ago.

What? She’s not been Kate Middleton for about a decade.

It has always been made clear that she is called Catherine, from the moment they were engaged. She isn’t called Kate and never was apparently- it’s what the press call her.

She isn’t called Kate and never was apparently- it’s what the press call her.

William does refer to her as Kate in their engagement interview. I read somewhere that she was always Catherine in the family and before she went to university, but that friends began calling her Kate at St. Andrews. It does appear that she prefers Catherine, and William has always referred to her that way in public way since their wedding.

I honestly wonder why anyone cares. If you do - why do you?

She’s been called Catherine since their engagement.