Dad in women's loo .

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I have been to the loo in Mc Donald's and was mid flow when a dad walks in with his daughters aged about 4 and 6.He stands waiting while his daughters are using the toilet. I came out and said you are not supposed to be in here.
He said he had to take his daughters to the loo and I told him that he needed to either wait outside or take them the mens. He said they don't need to see that and I told him that he shouldn't be hanging round in women's toilets for any reason. His sense of entitlement gave me the rage so I told a member of staff. I can only imagine how triggering that could be for some women. Intrusive fucker.

You could have waited outside the door for him to leave if it bothered you
JFC. Yes of course. The OP should wait for the man in the ladies toilets to finish, if she feels uncomfortable. Fuck me.

Completely unacceptable for a man to be in the woman’s toilet. He should have used the disabled/baby change, or brought up the issue with the restaurant. The solution isn’t going into the female toilets.

His young children shouldn't have to use a mens toilet but are too young to be going to a toilet they don't know alone.

Imagine a 4 year old getting stuck in a cubicle because she couldn't use a lock?

But you'd rather them use disgusting mens toilets and seeing penises and urinals?

There's someone entitled here and it's not the man looking after his children.

yup this!!

To see another penis at a urinal you have to be either using one yourself and purposely peer over the barrier/sides of the urinal next to you, or walk up to someone using a urinal and look over/around the sides, or hold you child above the urinals so they can look. You don’t accidentally see a penis.

Yep.
I despair.

A man is not meant to be in the ladies.

I don't disagree. But until there are family-friendly toilets available, I think a dad standing by the sinks/just inside the door is by far the preferred option. You disagree. Luckily the world will keep on turning 🙄

In fairness if they were my daughters I would much much prefer that he took my daughters into the ladies. The children were so young waiting for them outside is not realistic an option.Ideally there would be family bathrooms in places but there is not. There are cubicles though and I doubt he was interested in you washing your hands .

I don't believe this for a minute. Women's loos are, sadly, often pretty grim. Seats and floors often have wee on them, as you'd know if you used them.

So you’re willing to deliberately send 4yr old and 6yr old girls into a mens room where men will have their dicks out and expose them to a high risk of purposeful or accidental indecent exposure? Risking flashing trauma to little girls is ok because it means other grown women don’t have to feel a bit of discomfort.

He should take them in the men's just as I took my son in the women's with me.
He should be promoting better facilities for dad's if he is that concerned.
What exactly is he afraid of in the men's toilets?
His kids would go on a cubicle.

I could sort of understand if it was one girl and she was only like 2 or 3 years old, but there were two girls, the oldest was 6. 6. So a schoolgirl. So too old for their dad to be with them. 6 year olds go to the toilets at school by themselves. So why couldn't the 4 year old with her 6 year old sister have gone in by themselves and dad wait out side the main ladies door for them?

And this is part of the problem. No one is saying this dad is a predator. The point is womens toilets are for women. Any woman should be safe in the knowledge that no male will enter. Privacy, safety, dignity. Periods. Headscarves. Miscarriages. Abuse survivors. Older women who simply don't feel comfortable. My tween. Once a man with children, or ladyfeelings, or fear of other men decides they are the exception, there is no womens space. There are no exceptions. The women who are not happy trump those that don't care, because that's how consent works. The one who doesn't consent keeps their boundaries

I was taken in the mens by my dad until old enough. My DD by her dad. I was safe, shielded and with my dad. Once old enough, a girl will be absolutely fine in the ladies. Unless people like him insist it isn't single sex and keep barging in.

You may much prefer it, other women, using the protected female only space, may not.

@Quincythequince so your happy for him to take his daughters into the mens loos and see mens bits on display ?? Double standards.

Your Dad took you into the women's swim changing room? Seriously? It was unacceptable for you to be seen by men when you were changing but perfectly acceptable for him to see girls and women changing?

And you still think it's acceptable for a man to invade women's changing rooms and their privacy in this way?

And yes, the mens are usually minging. That sucks. Men need to do better. Doesn't mean they should be in the ladies.

Not picking on you, but asking for you or any other poster who has said what this dad did was “illegal” to please post the actual law that states it is illegal for a dad to accompany two young girls into the ladies. Thank you in advance.

There just needs to be more 'family/companion restrooms'. Are those a 'thing' in the UK? We're seeing more and more of them in the US. Normally a clearly marked separate room with a locking door that has a toilet, sink, and changing facilities.

Honestly, I'd rather a man bring his too-young-to-go-alone DDs into the women's loo than walk them into the Men's where there might be men with their dicks out having a wee. He should simply announce his presence politely ("Sorry"), keep his eyes focused on his DDs or the floor (no looking around), and move along as quickly as possible.

There's really not much to see in the Women's as we're all in closed cubicles. Maybe I'm overly modest but if I'm doing anything that might expose my tits or my fanny I'm going to do it in a cubicle, anyway.

I have boys and I would NEVER have taken them to a men's loo because of the chances of me seeing some man's dick. But never in all the times that I took them to the Women's did they ever see anything on 'display' in the public area.

I've had a few men ask me to supervise their DDs in the 'public area' of the Women's but even that makes me a bit uncomfortable. I don't like being responsible for children I don't know.

A wipe isn’t going to deal with puddles of wee!

It wouldn’t have been an issue for me. I’d far rather a Dad taking his girls to the ladies than him take his little girls passed urinals with exposed penises. Men’s toilets are often disgusting too.

I certainly don’t consider it inappropriate.

Apologies - I read too quxkly and misread/misunderstood.

Sincere apologies, @Dobbyismyabsolutefav

And unfortunately, there are men who would deliberately turn around and expose themselves if they knew there were small girls next to them...

It wouldn't bother me as women have closed cubicles whereas men use urinal bowls and I'd prefer little girls weren't faced with a penis.

I think you were unreasonable.

I don’t know how many men you know, but they don’t wave their dicks around in toilets.

I can’t believe people think this is the case.

A bloke waving his dixk around in public toilets would be in danger from other men.

Go and ask a man about the rules of (dis)engagement in mens public loos.

Seriously.

And under no circumstances should women’s SSS be compromised to allow a man in, no.

I'd rather a dad of 2 young girls took them into the ladies than the mens quite frankly.

No I don't particularly want a man in the ladies but 2 little girls in the mens loos is worse. So I'd suck it up for them tbh.