Dad in women's loo .

[HappyDays40]

I have been to the loo in Mc Donald's and was mid flow when a dad walks in with his daughters aged about 4 and 6.He stands waiting while his daughters are using the toilet. I came out and said you are not supposed to be in here.
He said he had to take his daughters to the loo and I told him that he needed to either wait outside or take them the mens. He said they don't need to see that and I told him that he shouldn't be hanging round in women's toilets for any reason. His sense of entitlement gave me the rage so I told a member of staff. I can only imagine how triggering that could be for some women. Intrusive fucker.

And we’re saying it’s not that way everywhere. 🤷‍♀️

Why should boys be exposed to women without pants washing said pants in a public sink? Or according to some posters completely changing their clothes for a night out in the communal area rather than a cubicle.

Male violence, yet to see any of that in a toilet, but again, you frequent mens toilets more than me.

But if urinating isn’t good parenting, surely that means it is poor parenting?

Ok well that’s completely the opposite where I live- London. Lots of babies here. Baby change is in the disabled as that is where there is space for a baby change and both men and women need to use it.
there isn’t space for a baby change in the mens loos and womens loos and disabled loos.
perhaps you live somewhere very rural ?

Emmelina

I double checked which toilet my husband took out 5 year old daughter in a few weeks ago when he was out with her. He said the mens, he wouldn’t dream of going into the woman’s. I said ‘cool’ and thought great. My husbands not an entitled prick.
no idea what point you were trying to make?

I agree he should have waited outside for his children, but it's totally inappropriate to suggest he take them to the men's room.

Why should boys be exposed to women without pants washing said pants in a public sink?

Despite the insistence of some pp, most of us have never seen this happen.

I live in Shoreditch.

Why should the very young girls have to look at penises in open urinals? How is that right? What happened about keeping women safe/protected (these little girls are female too incase that slipped uour mind)? Are there going to be men in those mens toilets getting off on little girls about whilst they have their dicks on display? (Not all men, just a minuscule minority but by forcing little girls into men's toilets you are providing exactly what pedophiles want).

Can't believe so many people think this is OK.
If I had my young sons with me they would come with me to the ladies.
If my DH has our young daughters with him he'd take them in the mens.
No way would he go in the ladies loo. And I'm sure the DDs would not suffer too much if they saw the odd exposed dick.

I do very much believe that, but I’m using it as an example as so many women seem to think men walk around with their penis out in the toilet. So if certain posters use a stupid (and untrue argument) then I use a similar one from here
back.

you can urinate and be a good parent. HTH.

And I'm sure the DDs would not suffer too much if they saw the odd exposed dick.

Are you for real? Seriously?

It’s getting worse and worse

My DS doesn't seem to have suffered from seing the odd exposed breast on occasion. I just taught him not to look from a young age.

So you’ve changed your mind and now urinating and good parenting can go together.

I said deliberate because in most gents' toilets it would have to be. As I said. Yes, there are a few facilities in places like football stadiums that are designed for maximum throughput, with troughs where you could inadvertently see penis. But in the vast majority of places, people's penises aren't on show.

The unspoken threat of violence is part of what keeps people self-policing. All men know that other men wouldn't be very happy about them deliberately showing a child their penis, so men don't make their penises visible to little children who've come into the gents with daddy. The thought that a little girl in the loos with her dad might tell daddy he flashed her would probably send a chill of fear down a man's spine, because he knows what the reaction might be from a man who thinks his little girl has been flashed. So he would be sure to use the urinal as it's normally used i.e. nobody can see your cock unless they're stood right next to you at the urinals. There's even unspoken codes about not taking the urinal right next to someone unless you have to. The whole place is organised around not unnecessarily seeing people's penises.

My DS doesn't seem to have suffered from seing the odd exposed breast on occasion

That’s not really comparable.

My girl would have ft very intimidated if she heard a man in the loos. She's embarrassed enough at the thought of women hearing her in the loo...a man in there would have been on another level for her.

He should have taken his daughters to the men's, just like my other half did when alone with my daughter at that age.

Why not? Do boys not have the same rights as girls to privacy/modesty?

So in this scenario, does the dad then stop all males from entering the mens toilet while his daughters are using it? If it’s illegal to have a dad in the womens toilet chaperoning his daughters, then it would definitely be illegal to deny men access to their male only space because females are using it?
@Discovereads
No, in this situation he merely uses his eyes to check the urinal area both on the way to the cubicle and on the way back. It’s called chaperoning, or parenting your children sensibly.
It’s perfectly possibly to escort your DC in and out of a public loo in this fashion. I know it is because my DH does so frequently.

50/50!
I think if this thread has highlighted anything it’s the need for family toilets in public. Men are doing a lot more (sole) parenting now than ever before and the facilities need an update!

Because half naked women washing knickers in the sink or actually exposing themselves while dressing is vanishingly rare…many of us have never once seen it. Read all the posts saying it…there’s literally centuries of lived experience if you add up all our ages saying we have not once seen this hypothetical scenario in real life.

Whereas men using the urinals in a mens toilet is not only common, but constant. Its not a hypothetical “what if” that almost never happens.

Why not?

Because exposing a breast isn’t a crime, for a start.

When my dc were babies (13+ years ago) our local shopping mall had women's toilets, mens toilets, disabled toilets and a baby change area with changing mats, a "family" toilet with 2 loos; and seats for feeding babies. It was great.

About 6 years ago I was looking after a friends baby and went into town. I popped to the toilets to change baby and have a wee. The baby change area had gone and been replaced with disabled/accessible toilets. I asked a security man where I was meant to change baby. He said the accessible toilets were for anyone who couldn't access the "normal" ones. So people with disabilities, parents with prams, or parents with small children. Makes sense to me.

Oh and I've never seen a woman waking her knickers in a public toilet. Much like my teens have never seen a random penis in the men's.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I don't think it happens a lot.