Dad in women's loo .

[HappyDays40]

I have been to the loo in Mc Donald's and was mid flow when a dad walks in with his daughters aged about 4 and 6.He stands waiting while his daughters are using the toilet. I came out and said you are not supposed to be in here.
He said he had to take his daughters to the loo and I told him that he needed to either wait outside or take them the mens. He said they don't need to see that and I told him that he shouldn't be hanging round in women's toilets for any reason. His sense of entitlement gave me the rage so I told a member of staff. I can only imagine how triggering that could be for some women. Intrusive fucker.

Totally agree, ridiculous comment.

@Alb0 and @Smileyaxolotl1 I think you are both past your bedtimes dear.

I have a 4 year old daughter- I can’t imagine my husband ever thinking it was reasonable for him to take her to the women’s toilet.

In a desperate situation he would take her to the men’s if no family toilet was available. I see no difference in a young boy going with his mother into a women’s changing room (seen it often) and a man taking his young daughter into men’s toilets.

To be fair - the description of men’s disgusting toilets is pretty off putting though. I have had to try and sanitise unisex loos prior to use too often for comfort. Not that this should be used as a reason for a man to take his sons into the women’s either- like the male poster on the thread.

Not all men do this though.

Do what? Rape? Assault? Cross boundaries without a care? Or act entitled in Women’s loos? Because actually, I was aware of that. I have met many men in my daily life who haven't done those things. But when one does something that crosses a line, then I can't help it, I panic. Rather like someone who was badly bitten by a dog and comes across a big dog in their path.

If you have a way of indicating which ones don't, so my limbic system can be informed when I find them acting entitled in women's spaces, I'd be most grateful. So would many - but not all - women (and men) who have experienced those things.

The fact that NAMALT is useless, because it's almost only men who are like that.

and that a penis can be used as a weapon

Well that escalated 🙈

Oh GAWD, this thread has reached a new level of batshittery now. I'm out.

This. Seriously what is wrong with people these days. The girls safety comes first in this scenario.

I find it honestlyaughsble how many of the women up in arms about this qre also the ones posting about how they are expected to be the default parent, are they being unreasonable to expect their partner to wash his own shit stained pants when thry both work full time etc that these boards are fucking filled with.

There are plenty handmaidens on MN but those of us who don't mind seeing a father attending to his young daughters' needs in a women's toilet aren't them.

Hasn't it!!!

Not remotely any woman’s problem- the safety and well-being of two little girls? This is NOT feminism.

Apparently, according to some fine 'specimens' of posters on here, men pose no threat at all to women and have never raped any women at any time in history.

Yeah, what happened to me was a lie. I imagined it.

Of course men can be a threat to women. So can other women. And children. And dogs. And cars. And trees.

Are you so risk adverse that you avoid all of the above and stay safely indoors at all times? The victim mentality is unreal. Why chose to live your life in fear?!

Apparently, according to some fine 'specimens' of posters on here, men pose no threat at all to women and have never raped any women at any time in history.

Stop making stuff up. Nobody has said anything of the sort. Apart from you.

I said all men are POTENTIAL abusers, in the EYES of women. No woman knows just by looking at a man if they are a good one or not. Do we? Try using critical thinking. I never said all men, I said potentially, all men can be seen as a threat to women. Especially men we DON'T KNOW.

Jesus.

What I have taken from this thread is that it's absolutely fine for me to take my son into the men's if he's uncomfortable with being in the "girls" loos. And any adult males who object to me, an adult female, being present in their private space just have to put up with it. Because children come first, after all, and having a child with me gives me an absolute right to disregard their privacy needs.

YOU DESERVE to feel safe but two little girls don’t?

Um, men are far more of a threat to women than women are to men.

Does this even need to be explained? Do I need to mention Domestic Violence stats??

I'm not, you're now trying to walk it back. You said men are not a threat to women. That is what your post said.

The man should have stayed at the entrance. As all fathers have, for decades.

Until, apparently, now.

Not sure I should be feeding the beast- but why are girls at risk going into the men’s toilet in the company of their dad?