Dad in women's loo .

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I have been to the loo in Mc Donald's and was mid flow when a dad walks in with his daughters aged about 4 and 6.He stands waiting while his daughters are using the toilet. I came out and said you are not supposed to be in here.
He said he had to take his daughters to the loo and I told him that he needed to either wait outside or take them the mens. He said they don't need to see that and I told him that he shouldn't be hanging round in women's toilets for any reason. His sense of entitlement gave me the rage so I told a member of staff. I can only imagine how triggering that could be for some women. Intrusive fucker.

Because the post said “he can stay at home”. Obviously, since mum isn’t an option, and 4/6yrs old are a decade too young to leave the house alone, ergo the children will also be staying home.

I personally couldn't lose sleep over this.

He takes them to the gents. They won't see any penises in a McDonald's loo at lunchtime unless they stick their heads between a bloke's legs and look up.

And why the fuck in this day and age should young girls be using the men's toilets?

Exactly @Simonjt Most men manage to take their daughters into men’s loos without any fuss.

Why on earth do you ever think SSS were invented?
They were originally invented for religious reasons usually revolving around the view that women were less than men or needed to be sequestered from men for reasons like modesty or menstruation. They were not invented to protect women from men.

Really, how do you know it is “most men”?

It wouldn't have bothered me tbh, I wouldn't have sent my DD into a public toilet alone at that age, he's not looking in cubicles.

Could he not have taken them into the men's toilets into a cubicle?

There isn't usually a changing table in the men's, they're mostly in disabled toilets but not always. In both my local Sainsburys and Costco there is only a changing table in the women's bathroom not mens or disabled.

So what should girls who are too young to use the toilet do? What about boys who are too young to use the toilet without help? Should children be kept close to their home until they are able to use the toilet alone?

@ClumpingBambooIsALie Sorry I know this is a serious topic but what you wrote made me laugh 😂. I would opt for taking them in the male toilets and covering their eyes until they got to the cubicle.

They aren't 'standing' alone. They are using a female toilet in a female facility, surrounded by..... females. There can be no safer space. I simply don't believe that a dad is needed to go in the womens with a 6 year old primary schooler. Unless the child has cognitive/developmental/physical needs.

I highly, highly suggest you get a grip.

What a depressing thread. I cannot believe the number of handmaidens happy to acquiesce to men being in women's toilets.

My asd 10 year old would have been extremely embarrassed and upset had she exited a cubicle to find a man standing there. Or do her rights to the dignity of a single sex space not count? And when she was too young to cope by herself, her dad took her in the men's. The thought of him going in the ladies would never have occurred to him! And he's pretty entitled at the best of times so I can't fathom how entitled these men are.

And the reason women's toilets are not as safe as they once were is because there is now the very real possibility that a male-bodied person might be in there and apparently that's just fine!!

I’m glad you confronted him OP.

The amount of times it’s been said on here that 8 year old boys should stay away from female spaces even when they’re locked in a cubicle with their mums as their daughters are uncomfortable. And then you get a grown arsed man in there standing about for all to see, and people are making excuses for him as it benefits his daughters to not have to go in the men’s.
Talk about having it all your own way.

Kindly, have you considered seeking medical help for your anxiety and paranoia in relation to men? It is such an extreme reaction to an innocent situation it’s quite worrying, this notion of the ‘bigger picture’ sounds like patients I have assessed in the midst of a mental health crisis.

No manphobia is referring to the posts claiming this dad was a sexual predator on the hunt using his daughters as an excuse.

That is absolutely untrue. As someone who studied history and sociology, religion had less than zero to do with it. Modesty and privacy, and safety were the reasons.

And remain the reasons today.

In a primary school with her peers, not a restaurant/environment surrounded by strangers. Far too precious if you’re triggered by men standing in a room where you wash your hands, I’d prioritise the safety of the children and not the sensitivity of grown women who are too afraid to wash their hands next to a male 🙂

Please avoid trivialising SMI for your rhetorical convenience.

Precisely- how are unaccompanied children using the female toilets supposed to know why there’s a man in there? I’m astonished that so many people are unable to comprehend that other children aside from the ones accompanied by their father also use public toilets and need to be safeguarded.

Since he was there with his children then it wouldn’t have bothered me. A 4 year old is too young to go to the toilet on their own and may still need help. I understand that he can’t take his dds to the mens toilet as it is far too open.
I understand that it can be triggering for some women but he was standing outside a cubicle waiting for his children.

Why wouldn’t children be safe in a man’s loo with their dad?

Depends on how big the toilet block is.