Dad in women's loo .

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I have been to the loo in Mc Donald's and was mid flow when a dad walks in with his daughters aged about 4 and 6.He stands waiting while his daughters are using the toilet. I came out and said you are not supposed to be in here.
He said he had to take his daughters to the loo and I told him that he needed to either wait outside or take them the mens. He said they don't need to see that and I told him that he shouldn't be hanging round in women's toilets for any reason. His sense of entitlement gave me the rage so I told a member of staff. I can only imagine how triggering that could be for some women. Intrusive fucker.

Of course it’s fine for little girls to go in loos with urinals with their dad.

This!! 😩 his children are far too young to be using bathrooms alone, I think I’d do the same if I were him. I’d absolutely not be taking them into the mens where there is urinals with a guaranteed view of a random man’s willy. Even sending them into the women’s alone, you can’t guarantee what weirdo will be there? Men and women are both guilty of being depraved. I think he did the right thing and sorry OP, But I think you need to chill the fuck out

My DH always took DD into the men's if necessary. Straight into a cubicle. He wasn't out and about with her at night in dodgy parts of town when he needed to, it would have been somewhere busy with families, such as McDonalds during the day. Once she was school age and used to using non-home toilets, he would send her into the women's and wait outside for her. He had enough nous to catch a women and ask her to check if DD disappeared for too long.

Men do not normally wave their willies about in the toilet (specially not in a family venue in the day time) - they stand facing the wall and, according to my DH and DS, anyone who wanted to see a willy would have to lean in and look very carefully. As is the case with drunk guys on a Saturday night in town - the flow of urine suggests what's going on, but they normally stand close to a wall, with just their back visible.

I don't like this normalising of adult men in women's spaces whenever it makes a man feel better about his situation, and I don't like the idea that men should cause a potential problem for women because other men make a mess in their toilets. Let's resist the idea that the default should be that women should be inconvenienced/made uncomfortable/threatened/suffer to solve men's problems.

Quite. I'm glad this entitled tosser was put in his place. Perhaps he will think on a bit more in future.

No it is not reckless, it is what any normal parent does.

Exactly.

YABVU and very precious.

He was there with his young daughters.

Because people have no concept of the bigger picture here!

Of course not all men are rapists. But all racists are men (you need a penis to be a rapist in Uk law by the way, different name for women who commit similar offences).

How are women mean to know who is who?

And if men are now allowed in toilets too…

Why on earth do you ever think SSS were invented?

It’s perfectly ok to challenge whether a man has good reason to be there or not, I just do not agree that there should be zero exceptions and that in this case the dad is an allowable exception because he was genuinely there with two young girls that were of an obvious age to need assistance and they have a right to safely access a toilet in the single sex space they are entitled to use. I disagree with the OPs stance of no exceptions. I disagree with her berating him and telling him to take the girls into the mens room. I disagree with her reporting him to the staff.

Quite. I can't imagine my teenage daughters would be too impressed either.

Hmm tough one. Can't say this would bother me in the least but I can see that some would be upset.

I can see this man's point of view too, I definitely wouldn't want to bring a 6 year old girl in to men's toilets but 4 and 6 is on the young side to be going in alone too.

@maddy68 Toilets are places where women are vulnerable. Periods. Miscarriage. Changing clothes. Etc. It is not even remotely the same as sitting at the same table as a man.

It’s perfectly ok to challenge whether a man has good reason to be there or not

Some women can’t, or don’t want to do that.

And they shouldn’t have to either.

So it seems:

• the father should have used the male toilets and taken the girls in there but;

• the girls shouldn't be exposed to seeing any penises but;

• they are too young to use the female toilet without parental supervision but

• men should not enter the female toilets under any circumstances.

What's the solution?

What about the girls rights though? You seriously think they should be housebound because they are being raised by a single father or a same sex couple? Will no one think of the children?!

Why on earth do people think you get eyefuls of men’s penises in urinals? Men don’t actually willy wave. Bizarre.

Well, yes. The man the OP is referring to was with 2 little girls. So yes of COURSE I would think he was with his daughters. What a stupid post! This thread is full of them.

Why do they need to be housebound because women want to preserve SSS?

Yeah ok. ‘Normal parents’ leave their 4 and 6 yr olds standing alone and unattended in public spaces all the time. You’ll have to forgive me for not believing you on this.

It is weird isn’t it, I didn’t realise so many people spent so much time imagining what mens toilets are like. Everyday really is a school day!

Men should not be in the women's loos. Dc go with their parent into the loos of their parent's gender until they are old enough to go by themselves. I am amazed that anyone things differently!

My dds accompanied their df to the men's loos many times when they were little, and have been completely unscarred by the experience.

This thread is batshit.

These things called mens toilets exist, so we can very easily take our children to the toilet. Happy to help.

@Discovereads are you familiar with the concept of doors? It would be entirely possible for this dad to open the door of the men’s toilets and either look inside or call out a warning while literally holding on to his children’s hands.

@Hell0daisy The 6 year old would go to the toilets by herself at school. She is old enough to use a womens bathroom by herself, the father should stand outside. Like all the men did in my generation, until now. Wait outside the entrance. At 6 she is too old for her dad to go with her. It's not like she's 2, 3 or 4. She is a primary schooler.