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DP and his smelly friend

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ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 17:03

DP and I have a shared hobby, and we drive an hour each way every Saturday to take part in it. We started dating as lockdown eased and I’d stay with him on weekends when it was allowed and we would travel in together. I never knew about the friend. Once mask rules were relaxed, DP said his friend, Jim, would be coming back to join us for the hobby. Jim drives but doesn’t have a car and lives a fair way away and so he gets the train, DP collects him from the station. Then we drive another 45 minutes- then the same in reverse in the evening. This has always been their arrangement and it only stopped because of Covid (friend refused to wear a mask so couldn’t travel by train).

The first time we collected Jim from the station, Jim went to get in the back, but DP indicated to him to get in the front and Jim asked if he was sure, DP said yes (not mentioned this to me before!) and so he got in the front and I got in the back. I quickly realised that Jim smells. Badly. A mix of body odour, urine and… damp? I’m not sure but it’s really quite horrific. DP claimed he couldn’t smell it at first but would always open a window (even on freezing cold days) as soon as Jim got in the car! DP now admits that Jim is “starting to smell a bit”. The smell is getting worse. It’s so strong I can smell it in the car for days afterwards.

A few times recently when we’ve gone to go out on a Sunday (we now live together), I’ve noticed the smell is still pretty bad in the car. It never occurred to me how it must’ve been in the fabric of the chair, etc. it just smells. Once after a day out I thought I could smell a similar, but not as strong, smell on my own clothes as I put them in the wash, but I decided I must be imagining it. Fast forward to this Sunday and we went to hell a friend move and after a while she asked what the smell was. I wasn’t sure what she meant and she said there was a strange smell. Eventually after sniffing her kitchen cupboards etc she clearly realised it was coming from me and asked if everything was alright. We’re very close and I asked her what it smelt of! She said she wasn’t sure but she was certain I had an… odour. Then it dawned on me. I took her to the car which had been closed in the warmth for a couple of hours by now and when we opened then door she said “that, you smell of that!” I told her everything. I was mortified. We went home and I washed my clothes and then washed them again, and took a long hot shower. I could smell it on my jeans. I don’t think he actually messed the seat (it was dry!) but I think somehow the smell is… seeping into the fabric? I’ve just gone to check the car (we haven’t used it since) and it still smells faintly.

I’m really at a loss of what to do! It’s the front passenger seat so I travel in it several times a week (I don’t drive). I’m wondering how many other people have thought I smell vaguely of BO and urine 🤢 This has been going on for months. My DP doesn’t see a problem and quite honestly would probably think it was funny if he knew what had happened on Sunday (I was too annoyed to tell him and have him laugh and find it funny). All I can think of is I start travelling in the back whenever we go out together (which will look and feel very weird, it’s also not the most comfortable of cars and I have back problems). I’m sure DP will be annoyed at this and say I’m over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc (and it would be pretty weird when we are the only ones in the car) but I don’t want to smell of someone else’s pee!

We are due to go out in a couple of hours and I’m dreading sitting in the car. It isn’t just the seat that worries me now, it’s the headrest, the belt. Since my friend said I smelt I’m paranoid and I don’t want to sit in a cinema smelling for 2 hours! I’m fully aware people have much bigger problems than this but what can I do that won’t cause issues with DP but also won’t make me feel uncomfortable whenever we go out in his car?

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 02/06/2022 13:11

This hobby is DP’s life. I knew that before we started dating (maybe not the full extent of it but I knew how much it meant to him). If he had to choose between me continuing to go to the hobby or giving lifts to Jim, he would absolutely choose Jim because he needs him. He would suggest I learn to drive (which I am trying to do), or make my own way there.

How have you been able to square this knowledge with yourself?
Your b/f's priorities are:

Himself
His hobby
Jim
Ensuring Jim attends the hobby
You. Possibly.

I cannot believe he agreed (persuaded?) for you to move to HIS town, making you dependent on him for lifts to your every-Saturday hobby, & is now letting you down with his bullshit priorities.
What do/did you want from the relationship?
Because he's not going to prioritise you, or anything he values even less than you, & - if you want DC - he is not going to be a reasonable, hands on father.

You are already relegated to the back seat of his stinking car if you can stomach it, or a 4-hour round trip if you want to continue YOUR hobby.
Think about that. He is prepared for you to sacrifice your participation in your hobby so he doesn't lose Jim's input into his own continued participation. It is horrifically selfish. And so COLD!

Apologies as that was worded pretty strongly - but it's fact, & dressing it up for you with wishful thinking won't help you with this depressing quandary. Flowers

Outside of the hobby, & Jims influence - how is he? How is he domestically, financially, emotionally? What, frankly, is in it for you in this relationship?

mynamesnotMa · 02/06/2022 13:16

There is no hobby you can't do locally fishing? She doesn't enjoy the bloody journey does she hence this post 🙄
Best advice from Ikeptgoing

mynamesnotMa · 02/06/2022 13:23

Is he the fella that drinks his own wee and washes his face in it? Thinking it's the secret to eternal youth.
It's either fishing dogging or that medieval re enactment.

SunflowerGardens · 02/06/2022 13:29

Your boyfriend calls you a nag, will almost certainly fuck off to the hobby leaving you at home to do all the childcare when you have kids, and your baby will have to go about in a stinky car too... 🏃‍♀️

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 13:33

@ThatSmellIsntMeHonest You poor girl! You are going to stay with a waste of space that treats you like shite and you can't see it yet Sad

When you do come on over to the Relationships board for the support you'll need.

Maurepas · 02/06/2022 13:34

I'm guessing it is not philately - so is it indoor and outdoor rock climbing?

AWOL66 · 02/06/2022 14:07

Sorry OP when I wrote my original reply saying if it was happening to me and it didn't improve I'd be tempted to just not bother going to the hobby, I hadn't read the bit about you being asked to sit in the back seat! I also didn't realise the hobby was something you were so passionate about or was a long term thing. I definitely don't think you should be left out or sidelined! I was replying more from the angle of how to discuss someone's hygiene and whether I could tolerate it. Thinking of the smell maybe he's a hoarder and wees in bottles weeing sloppily or something like that?! I can't see why else he'd smell like wee. He can't be happy he really needs someone to tactfully intervene. If you discover he is a hoarder (I know I'm getting carried away haha) you could push for a charity to help him. I think your DP should try to find out more but I know it seems he won't.

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 15:37

It's really depressing how many of you would twist yourselves like pretzels to allow this treatment from the BF and would actually regularly spend time/money fixing a problem not of your own making so the men can be happy - even though you are miserable.

It shouldn't be like that ^ it should never get to this point! We as women need to stop making excuses and work arounds for the shitty men in our lives. It only serves to keep ourselves miserable, and then give bad advice like a lot that's been given here - buy this/ clean that/ Woman you are responsible for ALL THE MEN (to your detriment)!

God help me but I wish it wasn't like this.

AchatAVendre · 02/06/2022 15:48

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 15:37

It's really depressing how many of you would twist yourselves like pretzels to allow this treatment from the BF and would actually regularly spend time/money fixing a problem not of your own making so the men can be happy - even though you are miserable.

It shouldn't be like that ^ it should never get to this point! We as women need to stop making excuses and work arounds for the shitty men in our lives. It only serves to keep ourselves miserable, and then give bad advice like a lot that's been given here - buy this/ clean that/ Woman you are responsible for ALL THE MEN (to your detriment)!

God help me but I wish it wasn't like this.

Honestly, it is bizarre. I cannot imagine repeatedly sitting next to someone so smelly it causes you deep distress in your own car.

Its like some sort of Handmaid's Tale on here. Or bad advice from the family relationship counsellor, circa. 1922. "Don't upset your man. Be smiling and meek at all times, and try to think of other solutions which won't affect his enjoyment of his pastimes". Maybe the OP could sniff some smelling salts, hiding them behind a gloved hand, lest she cause discomfiture to the two men?

Christ.

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 15:54

@AchatAVendre Right?! It makes me really sad/angry.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 02/06/2022 16:01

KettrickenSmiled · 02/06/2022 13:11

This hobby is DP’s life. I knew that before we started dating (maybe not the full extent of it but I knew how much it meant to him). If he had to choose between me continuing to go to the hobby or giving lifts to Jim, he would absolutely choose Jim because he needs him. He would suggest I learn to drive (which I am trying to do), or make my own way there.

How have you been able to square this knowledge with yourself?
Your b/f's priorities are:

Himself
His hobby
Jim
Ensuring Jim attends the hobby
You. Possibly.

I cannot believe he agreed (persuaded?) for you to move to HIS town, making you dependent on him for lifts to your every-Saturday hobby, & is now letting you down with his bullshit priorities.
What do/did you want from the relationship?
Because he's not going to prioritise you, or anything he values even less than you, & - if you want DC - he is not going to be a reasonable, hands on father.

You are already relegated to the back seat of his stinking car if you can stomach it, or a 4-hour round trip if you want to continue YOUR hobby.
Think about that. He is prepared for you to sacrifice your participation in your hobby so he doesn't lose Jim's input into his own continued participation. It is horrifically selfish. And so COLD!

Apologies as that was worded pretty strongly - but it's fact, & dressing it up for you with wishful thinking won't help you with this depressing quandary. Flowers

Outside of the hobby, & Jims influence - how is he? How is he domestically, financially, emotionally? What, frankly, is in it for you in this relationship?

This 100 per cent!
Your b/f's priorities are:
Himself
His hobby
Jim
Ensuring Jim attends the hobby
You. Possibly

If he's not listening to you I would refuse all lifts in his car as I think you have to put your money where your mouth is on this one. I don't think you can complain it's unbearable and then continue travelling with them (which says it is bearable) under these circumstances. and then see what his reaction is. Looking at the priorities, I suspect Jim will win. Sorry OP.

RenegadeMatron · 02/06/2022 16:42

If he had to choose between me continuing to go to the hobby or giving lifts to Jim, he would absolutely choose Jim because he needs him. He would suggest I learn to drive (which I am trying to do), or make my own way there.

Right. Well, if having this sub-standard specimen in your life is so important to you, you’d better suck up Jim’s stench and get used to it.

Enjoy.

BreadInCaptivity · 02/06/2022 16:51

Fuck Jim, I just want to know what the hobby is now...

(Sorry not helpful 🤷‍♀️)

On a more relevant point I had this issue at work with a staff member who worked night shifts.

Upshot was the office started to smell foul and we realised it was all coming from one chair that was being contaminated by a smelly worker.

Chair had to be thrown out and as management I had to have a word. Issue sadly was a combination of mental health issues and lack of proper clothes washing/drying facilities so he'd wear the same clothes on rotation for months without washing them and when he did they were never properly washed or dried (a quick swish in a bathtub and left to "dry" in a damp bathroom). Poor bugger was so used to his own smell he didn't realise there was a permanent "fug" around him and everything he touched that was permeable.

KettrickenSmiled · 02/06/2022 17:14

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 15:37

It's really depressing how many of you would twist yourselves like pretzels to allow this treatment from the BF and would actually regularly spend time/money fixing a problem not of your own making so the men can be happy - even though you are miserable.

It shouldn't be like that ^ it should never get to this point! We as women need to stop making excuses and work arounds for the shitty men in our lives. It only serves to keep ourselves miserable, and then give bad advice like a lot that's been given here - buy this/ clean that/ Woman you are responsible for ALL THE MEN (to your detriment)!

God help me but I wish it wasn't like this.

👏👏👏

buy this/ clean that/
😂😂

An admirably concise summary of the historic scope & visionary mastery of female-targeted FMCG marketing, circa 1851-2021.

Did you nick my thesis?

KettrickenSmiled · 02/06/2022 17:19

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 15:54

@AchatAVendre Right?! It makes me really sad/angry.

Settle down ladies.
You must Stand By Your Man & his stinky pal lest you enjoy your independence be cast into the wilderness, & Ruined.

skybluee · 02/06/2022 17:35

I think it's either climbing or to do with water. But that doesn't matter.

There's a shop near me where I suspect one of the workers has this issue. There is a really horrible smell, but it's only on some days. Then you think it's gone, and it comes back. It disappeared for a bit. I've noticed it's only there when a certain man is working. It is really awful, and I don't get how it's permeated the entire shop (which isn't that small) but anyway.

Miscfeminista · 02/06/2022 17:36

"Its like some sort of Handmaid's Tale on here. Or bad advice from the family relationship counsellor, circa. 1922. "Don't upset your man. Be smiling and meek at all times, and try to think of other solutions which won't affect his enjoyment of his pastimes". Maybe the OP could sniff some smelling salts, hiding them behind a gloved hand, lest she cause discomfiture to the two men?"

😂

Not to repeat too much but the more I read the more I agree there's a side issue with DP being..well not so dear. Definitely would not advise anyone to plan long term relationship with such person then again if we were able to see it so easily for what it is at that moment, more than half adult population of women would be happily single instead of trapped in shitty relationship(including me). Easier said than done and definitely easier to talk once it's done and you're out.

The issue is how to be considerate without sacrificing your own comfort and time, it's difficult and I think you done all you could by telling your DP to deal with it. It sounds like Jim's issue already consumed you and created additional problems way more than it should ever have.
I guess you'll have to practice making yourself a priority and not back down for sake of relationship, as harsh that may sound when all you are doing is trying to make it work for everyone.
If the other person truly respects you, they won't take you trying to assert yourself as being"against them", rather they would try to work out how you both can be happy. It's daunting realising the other person can't be what you wanted them to be or what they seemed to be.
Good luck OP, I hope you put your foot down and stay safe.

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 17:47

KettrickenSmiled · 02/06/2022 17:14

👏👏👏

buy this/ clean that/
😂😂

An admirably concise summary of the historic scope & visionary mastery of female-targeted FMCG marketing, circa 1851-2021.

Did you nick my thesis?

😂😂 No sadly I have never even had the opportunity to read a thesis!

I'd probably agree with what you wrote though, it sounds like we have similar ideas on this subject! Grin

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 17:53

@Miscfeminista The issue is how to be considerate without sacrificing your own comfort and time

In a healthy relationship with two people who treat each other as equals and work towards shared goals, yes absolutely!

This OP needs to not be considering or considerate of her partner any more (interesting side note, my fingers got away with me and typed prat there!), because he shows her no consideration and is happy to gaslight her.

@ThatSmellIsntMeHonest there is help and support available if you decide you don't want to put up with being second class citizen in your own life, you can do it and I'd bet you'd be happier for it!

lalaley · 02/06/2022 18:01

Your partner definitely doesn't sound very nice Sad I would re-evaluate living with him. Get some independence and dignity back for yourself. Don't give up your hobby where you have many friends - arrange your life in such a way again that you can make your own way there. It sounds like this situation won't be resolved by an honest conversation- you just have to set your own boundaries and organise yourself differently. No way would I be sitting 45 min in a car with someone that smelly.

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 18:10

Like I said at the start I'm still absolutely sure that stinky Jim is a red herring to the real problem of the OP's shitty DP Sad

JustDanceAddict · 02/06/2022 18:11

I agree with the others who say the issue is your DP- his priorities are all wrong.

I kwym re the lingering smell though, we have a family member who smells. Sometimes worse than others, but when they came here a few months ago it was so bad I was nearly gagging. DS said the loo smelled for days after they’d used it. He’s got a v strong sense of smell.

i recommend febreeze/covers etc as a practical solution to this.

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 18:13

Also little aside to @KettrickenSmiled do you remember the Mother's Day Mr Clean fiasco? Advertising sexism at it's finest right there!

StingrayStingray · 02/06/2022 18:15

Why does the OP need to clean and provide covers for the car?

It's not her car.

She didn't invite stinky Jim to sit on the seats, her partner did.

So why is this OP's problem/job to fix?

Find alternate transport, yes that's the OP's shout now, sadly. But the rest?

Newestname002 · 02/06/2022 18:29

@ThatSmellIsntMeHonest

If he had to choose between me continuing to go to the hobby or giving lifts to Jim, he would absolutely choose Jim because he needs him. He would suggest I learn to drive (which I am trying to do), or make my own way there.

That says a great deal to where in the hierarchy you belong in this relationship, doesn't it? If you are clear-sighted enough to see this, why are you living with your 'D'P in a location which disadvantages you, particularly where this hobby is concerned?

What future is there for the two of you as things stand?

Have you considered how much easier it would be for you to be living much closer to your shared hobby, so you could get there much easier - whilst still learning to drive?

I wonder in what other ways he takes you for granted? 🌹