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DP and his smelly friend

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ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 17:03

DP and I have a shared hobby, and we drive an hour each way every Saturday to take part in it. We started dating as lockdown eased and I’d stay with him on weekends when it was allowed and we would travel in together. I never knew about the friend. Once mask rules were relaxed, DP said his friend, Jim, would be coming back to join us for the hobby. Jim drives but doesn’t have a car and lives a fair way away and so he gets the train, DP collects him from the station. Then we drive another 45 minutes- then the same in reverse in the evening. This has always been their arrangement and it only stopped because of Covid (friend refused to wear a mask so couldn’t travel by train).

The first time we collected Jim from the station, Jim went to get in the back, but DP indicated to him to get in the front and Jim asked if he was sure, DP said yes (not mentioned this to me before!) and so he got in the front and I got in the back. I quickly realised that Jim smells. Badly. A mix of body odour, urine and… damp? I’m not sure but it’s really quite horrific. DP claimed he couldn’t smell it at first but would always open a window (even on freezing cold days) as soon as Jim got in the car! DP now admits that Jim is “starting to smell a bit”. The smell is getting worse. It’s so strong I can smell it in the car for days afterwards.

A few times recently when we’ve gone to go out on a Sunday (we now live together), I’ve noticed the smell is still pretty bad in the car. It never occurred to me how it must’ve been in the fabric of the chair, etc. it just smells. Once after a day out I thought I could smell a similar, but not as strong, smell on my own clothes as I put them in the wash, but I decided I must be imagining it. Fast forward to this Sunday and we went to hell a friend move and after a while she asked what the smell was. I wasn’t sure what she meant and she said there was a strange smell. Eventually after sniffing her kitchen cupboards etc she clearly realised it was coming from me and asked if everything was alright. We’re very close and I asked her what it smelt of! She said she wasn’t sure but she was certain I had an… odour. Then it dawned on me. I took her to the car which had been closed in the warmth for a couple of hours by now and when we opened then door she said “that, you smell of that!” I told her everything. I was mortified. We went home and I washed my clothes and then washed them again, and took a long hot shower. I could smell it on my jeans. I don’t think he actually messed the seat (it was dry!) but I think somehow the smell is… seeping into the fabric? I’ve just gone to check the car (we haven’t used it since) and it still smells faintly.

I’m really at a loss of what to do! It’s the front passenger seat so I travel in it several times a week (I don’t drive). I’m wondering how many other people have thought I smell vaguely of BO and urine 🤢 This has been going on for months. My DP doesn’t see a problem and quite honestly would probably think it was funny if he knew what had happened on Sunday (I was too annoyed to tell him and have him laugh and find it funny). All I can think of is I start travelling in the back whenever we go out together (which will look and feel very weird, it’s also not the most comfortable of cars and I have back problems). I’m sure DP will be annoyed at this and say I’m over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc (and it would be pretty weird when we are the only ones in the car) but I don’t want to smell of someone else’s pee!

We are due to go out in a couple of hours and I’m dreading sitting in the car. It isn’t just the seat that worries me now, it’s the headrest, the belt. Since my friend said I smelt I’m paranoid and I don’t want to sit in a cinema smelling for 2 hours! I’m fully aware people have much bigger problems than this but what can I do that won’t cause issues with DP but also won’t make me feel uncomfortable whenever we go out in his car?

OP posts:
Valeriekat · 02/06/2022 06:04

I didn't read beyond the fact that you were demoted to the back of the car. That would be the end of the relationship for me.
He doesn't respect you.

Dovebird10 · 02/06/2022 06:18

Why do so many assume that a person who has odour has hygeine issues? Even if we choose not to watch medical programmes, surely we all become aware at some point in adulthood that there are medical conditions which result in odour that cannot be washed away? What would be the point of saying something if, for example, Jim has a leaky stoma? It would be cruel to offer help with his washing in case there is a medical cause for this problem. Unfortunately, the human body desensitizes itself to familiar odours so Jim wouldn't necessarily know he has a problem.

Sympathies to you for finding yourself in this delicate and unfortunate predicament and respect to your DP for being Jim's friend: it is entirely possible that Jim doesn't have any others.

If your DP wants you to enjoy the shared hobby together, it is up to him to find a kind way of managing this problem. Perhaps both of you take a short break from attending the hobby, tell Jim that he will need to find his own way there and resume the hobby at some point in the near future by which time Jim will, hopefully, have made alternative arrangements.

Darbs76 · 02/06/2022 06:25

I had a friend like this, she was lovely, and she did wash regularly, but the smell (like an awful musty smell but worse) was ingrained in the fabrics of her house, in her clothes. She was aware of a smell as a neighbour complained as they shared a small hallway to their flats. She blamed it on the cats weeing, so I’m not sure if she genuinely did realise that smell was not normal. I then saw her around 10yrs later and her new place didn’t have the smell. I can only assume she got new furniture (helped by her son as money was tight). I never said anything to her, i think it would have just made her paranoid. We did have to open windows and febreze after she had been over

balalake · 02/06/2022 06:46

Tough love, no more travelling with the smelly man. Probably your DPs role to tell him. It could well be from a medical condition, but it's to a hobby not something such as work or education.

Shoxfordian · 02/06/2022 06:48

I would tell my dp that his friend and his car now smells too bad for me to get in it- pass your test op and drive yourself to the hobby or just skip it for a few weeks but don’t sit in a smelly car with a smelly man

Seymour5 · 02/06/2022 06:52

Why not use your concern re the increasing costs of hot water to use the showers at the hobby venue? Tell Jim from next week you’re all going to shower there before you go home. Take a spare towel etc in case he ‘forgets’. If that makes no difference, you’ll know its his clothes, and probably his home as well.

I’m also blessed with an acute sense of smell. It can make public transport hell, so I don’t think I could stand being in a car for an hour.

ChairCareOh · 02/06/2022 07:02

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KatherineJaneway · 02/06/2022 07:18

The first time we collected Jim from the station, Jim went to get in the back, but DP indicated to him to get in the front and Jim asked if he was sure, DP said yes (not mentioned this to me before!) and so he got in the front and I got in the back.

Why did you stand for that? Surprised or not I would have brought it up later.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/06/2022 07:34

DogsAndGin · 01/06/2022 17:14

Tell Jim politely to his face, “Jim, you have a very strong body odour, and it’s now affecting me. I am concerned about you. Are you using your shower and washing machine at home? Would you like me to help show you how to use the washing machine?”

Yeah, right

Movelikewater · 02/06/2022 07:39

Far from pompous - it is essential to be truthful. When I watched this ted talk it changed the way I approach honesty. You can be kind when you tell the truth and you must. Yes, I have told people they smell before, and they appreciated it.

As for DP - I would NEVER tell my partner who I love, respect and care for to get in the back for a friend who was a similar age/able bodied. It’s bloody awful. I’d be asking him what he thinks he’s doing.

And two hours or no, I would refuse to get in car with Jim again. Take a book, subscribe to a podcast, whatever you can to avoid being in the same car.

MilkWasABadChoice · 02/06/2022 07:50

Surely the solution is for you to start sitting in the front!

Tell Jim and DP that you were feeling carsick last weekend, and that you’re going to sit in the front from now on. That deals with the smelly seat issue, and the way your DP reacts will tell you more about what kind of guy he is.

Chubarubrub · 02/06/2022 07:51

Paq · 01/06/2022 18:23

Learn to drive or find someone else to get a lift with.

Such a ridiculous comment, yes OP should learn to drive, so she can get herself to her hobby… in about a years time. 🤣😐. Not really a solution for such a pressing matter really…

Chubarubrub · 02/06/2022 07:54

mynamesnotMa · 02/06/2022 01:28

I was feeling very sorry for Mr Smell until he mocked the homeless person..
I'd have used that as a queue to say you don't exactly smell of roses and you own a bath.

Yeah I agree, he’s not coming out of this well so I’d just tell him, he’s obviously not sensitive… or very nice.

Blueblell · 02/06/2022 08:00

I think your DP asked you to move to the back so he could open the window and try and contain the smell. Get covers for the seats for when he travels with you and take them off when he gets out.

ittakes2 · 02/06/2022 08:01

Is Jim very heavy into the environment? Could he be choosing not to wash his clothes?

ittakes2 · 02/06/2022 08:03

Sometimes I think musty smells on clothes is too much softener as that puts a film on clothes I think

WaterBottle123 · 02/06/2022 08:08

I cannot imagine being with a man who made me give up my seat for another man.

knowinglesseveryday · 02/06/2022 08:09

I think the fact he made you get in the back tells you where you stand .

Charlize43 · 02/06/2022 08:10

Obliterate Jim with Fabreeze! Spray your car and Jim while he's not looking.

I bought a lovely Karen Millen dress from Ebay have washed it 3 times and still can't get rid of the smell of bloody Fabreeze. I feel like I'm wearing a big car air freshener!

dgirluk · 02/06/2022 08:11

Just a practical thing about the car - you can get enzyme car cleaner stuff which is amazing for removing odours from car upholstery....

givethatWolfAbanana · 02/06/2022 08:13

The problem is your DH

he cares more about his friend than you

you’re pretty low in the pecking order, why accept that?

mintybobs · 02/06/2022 08:18

Kanaloa · 01/06/2022 17:19

Erm would you really say this to an acquaintance? In those words. Absolutely bizarre.

I would. If the smell is so bad its making my car smell for days after then absolutely. He needs to know about this otherwise people will start avoiding him en masse and then he'll be hurt and upset. Sometimes, being kind means telling someone an uncomfortable truth. Eg- one time I bled through my jeans during my period and a stranger told me. I will be forever be grateful she did otherwise I would have been walking around further embarrassing myself.

LowlandLucky · 02/06/2022 08:20

Tell your partner to speak to his friend or you will in a not so polite way.

LadyEloise1 · 02/06/2022 08:32

givethatWolfAbanana · 02/06/2022 08:13

The problem is your DH

he cares more about his friend than you

you’re pretty low in the pecking order, why accept that?

I agree.
Any man that said "Oi ! ThatSmellIsntMe hop into the back now as X is sitting in the front." would get short shrift from me.

PuppyMonkey · 02/06/2022 08:35

Oh God, I can’t help it - I really need to know what the hobby is.Grin