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DP and his smelly friend

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ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 17:03

DP and I have a shared hobby, and we drive an hour each way every Saturday to take part in it. We started dating as lockdown eased and I’d stay with him on weekends when it was allowed and we would travel in together. I never knew about the friend. Once mask rules were relaxed, DP said his friend, Jim, would be coming back to join us for the hobby. Jim drives but doesn’t have a car and lives a fair way away and so he gets the train, DP collects him from the station. Then we drive another 45 minutes- then the same in reverse in the evening. This has always been their arrangement and it only stopped because of Covid (friend refused to wear a mask so couldn’t travel by train).

The first time we collected Jim from the station, Jim went to get in the back, but DP indicated to him to get in the front and Jim asked if he was sure, DP said yes (not mentioned this to me before!) and so he got in the front and I got in the back. I quickly realised that Jim smells. Badly. A mix of body odour, urine and… damp? I’m not sure but it’s really quite horrific. DP claimed he couldn’t smell it at first but would always open a window (even on freezing cold days) as soon as Jim got in the car! DP now admits that Jim is “starting to smell a bit”. The smell is getting worse. It’s so strong I can smell it in the car for days afterwards.

A few times recently when we’ve gone to go out on a Sunday (we now live together), I’ve noticed the smell is still pretty bad in the car. It never occurred to me how it must’ve been in the fabric of the chair, etc. it just smells. Once after a day out I thought I could smell a similar, but not as strong, smell on my own clothes as I put them in the wash, but I decided I must be imagining it. Fast forward to this Sunday and we went to hell a friend move and after a while she asked what the smell was. I wasn’t sure what she meant and she said there was a strange smell. Eventually after sniffing her kitchen cupboards etc she clearly realised it was coming from me and asked if everything was alright. We’re very close and I asked her what it smelt of! She said she wasn’t sure but she was certain I had an… odour. Then it dawned on me. I took her to the car which had been closed in the warmth for a couple of hours by now and when we opened then door she said “that, you smell of that!” I told her everything. I was mortified. We went home and I washed my clothes and then washed them again, and took a long hot shower. I could smell it on my jeans. I don’t think he actually messed the seat (it was dry!) but I think somehow the smell is… seeping into the fabric? I’ve just gone to check the car (we haven’t used it since) and it still smells faintly.

I’m really at a loss of what to do! It’s the front passenger seat so I travel in it several times a week (I don’t drive). I’m wondering how many other people have thought I smell vaguely of BO and urine 🤢 This has been going on for months. My DP doesn’t see a problem and quite honestly would probably think it was funny if he knew what had happened on Sunday (I was too annoyed to tell him and have him laugh and find it funny). All I can think of is I start travelling in the back whenever we go out together (which will look and feel very weird, it’s also not the most comfortable of cars and I have back problems). I’m sure DP will be annoyed at this and say I’m over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc (and it would be pretty weird when we are the only ones in the car) but I don’t want to smell of someone else’s pee!

We are due to go out in a couple of hours and I’m dreading sitting in the car. It isn’t just the seat that worries me now, it’s the headrest, the belt. Since my friend said I smelt I’m paranoid and I don’t want to sit in a cinema smelling for 2 hours! I’m fully aware people have much bigger problems than this but what can I do that won’t cause issues with DP but also won’t make me feel uncomfortable whenever we go out in his car?

OP posts:
burnoutbabe · 02/06/2022 08:39

Surely refusing to go to the hobby also means refusing to use the car ever.

And how can one ask someone to sit on a rubber mat without explaining why!

Boyfriend needs to speak to him or sort out the car not smelling somehow.

Nanny0gg · 02/06/2022 08:40

ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 22:41

I’ve realised now the being told to sit in the back is a bigger issue than I’d realised. I need to think about what this means.

DP absolutely won’t speak to him about it. He does now admit that he smells, and that it’s getting worse. He had a mental breakdown years ago it seems and now he doesn’t work. He lives alone, no family since his mum died. DP is his only friend and he only has this hobby and he is part of a walking group but that’s not very often. He has no one else to tell him. And I just think he probably knows and doesn’t care. He barely leaves the house. He is probably depressed. I’m not sure I can be the one to address it with him although I can see the benefits of that for me, for Jim and for everyone else at our hobby who has to smell him!

It isn’t a sport but actually there is a shower available. I just can’t think how to bring up him needing to use it… it wouldn’t solve the issue (one shower per week) but it’s got to help.

I really appreciate all the replies.

It isn't for you to bring up, it's for your 'D'P.

And frankly, if he or the other members of the groups that know Jim don't, they're pretty shit friends. He must go shopping and it's just awful. If it's down to depression he needs help.

Also, your 'D' P appears to be a pretty shit partner. And the fact that there's a pretty big issue you can't bring up with him doesn't point to this being a good relationship for you. What would the future be like?

You need to have a long hard think and then a long hard conversation.

Maurepas · 02/06/2022 08:40

You could get a crate of assorted expensive air fresheners , keep them in the car and use one or other of them every few minutes on way to hobby.

Painiscrap · 02/06/2022 08:41

thenewduchessoflapland · 01/06/2022 23:22

Can you imagine being the poor buggers stuck in an enclosed train carriage with him 🤢

Can you imagine being the poor OP, stuck in the much smaller car space with him!! 🤢🤮

Nanny0gg · 02/06/2022 08:42

FGS - Air fresheners and car mats/cleaning are NOT the solution to this problem.

And if I was the OP I wouldn't set foot in that car till the root cause was sorted.

Maurepas · 02/06/2022 08:42

You could also ask for a partition to be put in car between back seats and front seats - like taxis did for covid!

Painiscrap · 02/06/2022 08:46

Surely, if enough of the hobbyists complained about how bad he smells, the organisers of the hobby would have to speak to him about it?

LadyEloise1 · 02/06/2022 08:52

PuppyMonkey · 02/06/2022 08:35

Oh God, I can’t help it - I really need to know what the hobby is.Grin

You're not alone ! Smile

ventreàterre · 02/06/2022 08:54

Nah, this would be an absolute deal-breaker for me. It sounds dramatic, but I seriously think I'd consider leaving someone for sending me to the back seat without discussing it (possibly acceptable if Jim is very tall and can't fit in the back, but only with your prior agreement) and not caring that his stinky friend is making your life miserable. He doesn't seem to respect you much!

luckylavender · 02/06/2022 09:02

@ThatSmellIsntMeHonest - difficult situation OP. But there is no way I would risk smelling because of someone else. I'd stop getting in the car full stop. I wouldn't be going near DP because he must smell too (if you do). And if you split, so be it. It's not your problem & he's prioritising his friend over you.

Maireas · 02/06/2022 09:06

This is odd - why isn't the OP's other half bothered by the smell? How come he doesn't smell?
Why have the other hobbyists not become affected and/or concerned?
Btw, I think the hobby involves trains.

femfemlicious · 02/06/2022 09:14

This whole relationship is doomed. He is already using the "nag" word before marriage and children. Just imagine what he will say when he is required to participate in bringing up kids😅. Save yourself @ThatSmellIsntMeHonest dont go into this hole with your eyes open . He is already showing you who he is...believe him.

Thisbastardcomputer · 02/06/2022 09:32

That's horrendous I'd have to ban Jim from the car.

In our local Asda there used to be an elderly woman shopping, with her middle aged son, the smell of stale urine could be picked up two aisles away from them, god knows how the check out person coped.

LookItsMeAgain · 02/06/2022 09:40

My advice would be to find an alternative group to do this hobby with because I can't see your relationship with your OH carrying on successfully if he doesn't deal with his smelly friend.
Alternatively, find an alternative way to get to the hobby, and if your OH's smelly friend says "Oh, you didn't come with your OH and me" you can reply "Well, yeah, I had noticed that OH's car was starting to smell a lot and I just couldn't cope with the smell any longer so I've decided to take the bus/train/fly(that's a joke) to do the hobby. Can't you get the smell in OH's car? It's absolutely horrid, it was hanging on my clothes for days."

That way you're talking about the smell, not the 'friend' and hopefully if he is a smart person, he'll add two and two together and get that he is causing the smell.

Katkinsgreyy · 02/06/2022 10:30

I think in this case, it's best to be upfront.
He isn't bothered about how his stench impacts other people! So you shouldn't be bothered about hurting his feelings.

Ikeptgoing · 02/06/2022 11:01

OP, I want to lend you one of my preteens or teenagers. They would say it so simply & innocently

"omg what's that smell? That's awful? What is it? ... it's coming from here ..(sniff ..sniff..) Oh it's... (looks wide eyed in shock at the stinky person before realising and covering up with attempted politeness to stranger ) (but not to a friend!) ... wow. I don't think I'll come ... no I'll walk home from here..."

Later to parent ( when Jim is not there) "Ugh the car smells now. I'm not getting in there. You need to burn the seats. He stank. I feel sick just thinking about it... don't give him a lift again .. Why haven't you told him he stinks?"

You should hear how teens speak to each other Grin - it's so simple
"you stink today mate"
"You need a shower"
"I see you went with Oompa Loompa makeup today"
GrinGrin

Wouldn't it be easy if you could just set a blunt teenager into him. I can't believe no one has told Jim, as others must smell him during the hobby and in the train.

5128gap · 02/06/2022 11:20

LadyEloise1 · 02/06/2022 08:52

You're not alone ! Smile

My monies on LARPing.

eatthecheesecake · 02/06/2022 11:33

Your boyfriend is an actual asshole. Why are you with someone who calls you a nag and treats you like shit?

Latenightreader · 02/06/2022 11:49

Painiscrap · 02/06/2022 08:46

Surely, if enough of the hobbyists complained about how bad he smells, the organisers of the hobby would have to speak to him about it?

You would be amazed how far people go to avoid having an awkward conversation…. The smelly volunteer I worked with had been active (and smelly) for years before I spoke to him. Despite his odour being raised with many organisers/team leaders, no one actually approached him until I did (and it took me far too long).

ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 02/06/2022 12:12

Thanks again for all the replies. To answer a few questions again:

DP doesn’t smell of it himself because she’s he never sits in the passenger seat of his own car. He claimed not to be able to smell Jim but clearly with the window opening when he was in the car (and not when he wasn’t), he can. He has now admitted he can smell him and the smell is getting worse. Other people at the hobby can smell him and have mentioned it but not to him (and not in a bullying type way).

Their team is very small, probably half a dozen regulars and they mainly only do one Saturday per month. Only DP and Jim (now he’s back), and I go every week. So the rest of them only really have to smell him once a month or so, and a lot of it is outside. They make their own way there.

There isn’t really anyone else who could or would tell him. We do have people in charge of each team but it’s not an authority type role and DP is actually in charge of their team 🙄. There are people “higher up” but they wouldn’t really get involved with things like this.

OP posts:
rnsaslkih · 02/06/2022 12:23

dump dp and move back nearer to the hobby

the fact that it is Jim stinking is a red herring. Your dp doesn’t care about solving the problem

if he isn’t willing to help solve the problem, then he will not be willing to solve the problems as a team with you that life throws at you over then next 20,30,40 years.

ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 02/06/2022 12:32

It’s a bit difficult to explain the set up without saying what the hobby is, and it’s really quite outing. I’m not even sure I should care about anyone knowing it’s me now, it’s not like I’m worried about my own stench (except when I’ve been in the car!) but I’m not sure DP would like knowing what people think about him 🤣

Before I was dating DP I never missed a Saturday unless I was ill (not including covid when we had to stay away), but this year I’ve only been about 5 or 6 times as I’ve been avoiding going. I really missed being there though and I have lots of friends there.

But DP is very financially invested in the hobby. I’m not. DP has lots of knowledge but Jim is a bit of an expert in the area. There are some problems at the minute and without Jim, DP is screwed basically. So he needs him, and he won’t do anything to upset him or rock the boat. I’m aware that makes DP seem like a bit of a user, but it isn’t really like that and also been friends for years, way before DP and I even met. I am interested in the hobby but don’t have the skills or knowledge to be much help.

This hobby is DP’s life. I knew that before we started dating (maybe not the full extent of it but I knew how much it meant to him). If he had to choose between me continuing to go to the hobby or giving lifts to Jim, he would absolutely choose Jim because he needs him. He would suggest I learn to drive (which I am trying to do), or make my own way there.

OP posts:
rnsaslkih · 02/06/2022 12:35

If you have a baby, this will be your dp’s reason for absenting himself continually. Be very careful. I’d say you can do better.

mynamesnotMa · 02/06/2022 12:51

Why travel two hours for a hobby 🙄

BiologicalRealist · 02/06/2022 12:56

mynamesnotMa · 02/06/2022 12:51

Why travel two hours for a hobby 🙄

Maybe because the OP enjoys the hobby Hmm

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