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DP and his smelly friend

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ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 17:03

DP and I have a shared hobby, and we drive an hour each way every Saturday to take part in it. We started dating as lockdown eased and I’d stay with him on weekends when it was allowed and we would travel in together. I never knew about the friend. Once mask rules were relaxed, DP said his friend, Jim, would be coming back to join us for the hobby. Jim drives but doesn’t have a car and lives a fair way away and so he gets the train, DP collects him from the station. Then we drive another 45 minutes- then the same in reverse in the evening. This has always been their arrangement and it only stopped because of Covid (friend refused to wear a mask so couldn’t travel by train).

The first time we collected Jim from the station, Jim went to get in the back, but DP indicated to him to get in the front and Jim asked if he was sure, DP said yes (not mentioned this to me before!) and so he got in the front and I got in the back. I quickly realised that Jim smells. Badly. A mix of body odour, urine and… damp? I’m not sure but it’s really quite horrific. DP claimed he couldn’t smell it at first but would always open a window (even on freezing cold days) as soon as Jim got in the car! DP now admits that Jim is “starting to smell a bit”. The smell is getting worse. It’s so strong I can smell it in the car for days afterwards.

A few times recently when we’ve gone to go out on a Sunday (we now live together), I’ve noticed the smell is still pretty bad in the car. It never occurred to me how it must’ve been in the fabric of the chair, etc. it just smells. Once after a day out I thought I could smell a similar, but not as strong, smell on my own clothes as I put them in the wash, but I decided I must be imagining it. Fast forward to this Sunday and we went to hell a friend move and after a while she asked what the smell was. I wasn’t sure what she meant and she said there was a strange smell. Eventually after sniffing her kitchen cupboards etc she clearly realised it was coming from me and asked if everything was alright. We’re very close and I asked her what it smelt of! She said she wasn’t sure but she was certain I had an… odour. Then it dawned on me. I took her to the car which had been closed in the warmth for a couple of hours by now and when we opened then door she said “that, you smell of that!” I told her everything. I was mortified. We went home and I washed my clothes and then washed them again, and took a long hot shower. I could smell it on my jeans. I don’t think he actually messed the seat (it was dry!) but I think somehow the smell is… seeping into the fabric? I’ve just gone to check the car (we haven’t used it since) and it still smells faintly.

I’m really at a loss of what to do! It’s the front passenger seat so I travel in it several times a week (I don’t drive). I’m wondering how many other people have thought I smell vaguely of BO and urine 🤢 This has been going on for months. My DP doesn’t see a problem and quite honestly would probably think it was funny if he knew what had happened on Sunday (I was too annoyed to tell him and have him laugh and find it funny). All I can think of is I start travelling in the back whenever we go out together (which will look and feel very weird, it’s also not the most comfortable of cars and I have back problems). I’m sure DP will be annoyed at this and say I’m over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc (and it would be pretty weird when we are the only ones in the car) but I don’t want to smell of someone else’s pee!

We are due to go out in a couple of hours and I’m dreading sitting in the car. It isn’t just the seat that worries me now, it’s the headrest, the belt. Since my friend said I smelt I’m paranoid and I don’t want to sit in a cinema smelling for 2 hours! I’m fully aware people have much bigger problems than this but what can I do that won’t cause issues with DP but also won’t make me feel uncomfortable whenever we go out in his car?

OP posts:
ElenaSt · 01/06/2022 17:30

I would have no problem having a chat with him but I understand you might be apprehensive so you need to insist that your partner tells him that the BOTH of you can't tolerate it and won't be able to give him a lift until he addresses the problem.

Furrydogmum · 01/06/2022 17:32

You need to spray the seat VERY liberally with a dettox type anti bac spray and leave it to dry and repeat regularly to kill the germs - I assume there has been "liquid/seepage" of some type.. I don't like the sound of your dp to he honest 😒

Jugglingjanuary · 01/06/2022 17:35

You can get heavy duty vinyl car seat covers. I would make DO put this in every time Jim was getting in the car.

then Dettol antibacterial spray the seat belt afterwards.

but I'd have been out of there at the point 'D'P told me to get in the back and found it funny that Jim's lack of hygiene was permeating the car & my clothes.

twat.

HaveringWavering · 01/06/2022 17:40

Basilbrushgotfat · 01/06/2022 17:18

Also, if you're starting to pick up the odour then guaranteed your partner is too. Tell him he's starting to stink as well and I bet he doesnt laugh then.

Either he'll address the issue or he'll choose to end things so he can Jim can be stinkers together. Either way, you've lost nothing.

But the DP isn’t sitting in the seat that Stinky Jim has recently vacated. That’s why OP is picking it up more than him.

OP, at a minimum you have to refuse to travel in the car unless absolutely necessary; if you do travel then sit in the passenger seat until your DP has had the car thoroughly cleaned and stopped allowing Jim to travel in it. I know that this is inconvenient to you but it will hopefully hammer the point home.

I’m curious about what the hobby is but I’m guessing it is not a sport, as that would likely involve a shower at the end. Historical battle re-enactment, and Jim is a method actor?

HaveringWavering · 01/06/2022 17:42

Also a red flag at Jim refusing to wear a mask during Covid.

StingrayStingray · 01/06/2022 17:43

Your partner doesn't sound nice at all & although Jim might be an issue in his own right I think he may be a red herring to the real problem here.

You can't even tell him how you feel because of how he would react? That's never a good look on a man or for a relationship.

ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 17:47

theemmadilemma · 01/06/2022 17:08

Some sort of cover for the chair for when you use it? After you've fumigated it. Clean it every weekend after he's been in it.

But seriously, if your DP's actually cares, it would be kinder to gently address this with his friend. It sounds like he's just not washing/drying his clothes well enough, seems to happen a lot with some single men.

He won’t talk to his friend. He pretends not to notice or that it isn’t a big deal so he won’t have to. I know he can smell him!

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 01/06/2022 17:48

You don't have a b/f's smelly friend problem.

You have a problem with WhyTF you are shacked up with a man who thinks your place is in the back seat, who will laugh at you if you told him how upsetting your experience with your friend on Sunday was, & who reckons you are over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc.

Ditch you disrespectful b/f & the problem of the smelly friend is solved.

RandomMess · 01/06/2022 17:49

You buy a cover for the back seat.

Friend always sits in walk.

Front of car gets a thorough valet.

DO needs to know this is a deal breaker.

ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 17:49

MeridianB · 01/06/2022 17:09

Jim’s smell sounds hideous. And is enough of a reason to decline future lifts.

But your DP is horribly rude for telling you to move to the back seat for his friend. What’s all that about?!

Whose car is it?

His car. The problem is if I refuse the lift then I can’t get to our hobby, it would be about 2 hours on public transport. 4 hours travelling for a hobby seems a bit much, as much as I’d miss going 😔

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skybluee · 01/06/2022 17:50

That's awful and you should be careful he doesn't have anything transmissible like scabies. I think you need to have a word but I wouldn't phrase it cruelly. Just say say you're sorry to mention it but.. Failing that get a trailer and tow him behind you.

StormTreader · 01/06/2022 17:53

It's absolutely cruel of your DH to not mention it to him - how many potential friends, event invites or job opportunities has this guy missed out on because he doesn't realise he smells so badly?

KettrickenSmiled · 01/06/2022 17:55

He won’t talk to his friend. He pretends not to notice or that it isn’t a big deal so he won’t have to. I know he can smell him!

And you say it is a 4 hour round trip for you to go to your hobby by public transport ... & your b//f refuses to address the problem ... so what ARE you going to do OP?

SpacePotato · 01/06/2022 18:01

Fitted waterproof cot sheets would fit over the passenger seat and cheap.
If your knob of a DP won't talk to his friend, you can at least cover it afterwards when you need to sit on it to protect your clothes.

I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut TBH. If your DP was truely this man's friend, he would speak to him, because everyone around him will be affected including all the people at your hobby.

2bazookas · 01/06/2022 18:02

Just tell Jim yourself

"Jim, people have commented the car smells really weird, you need to do something about it please".

Mamette · 01/06/2022 18:02

No way would I set foot in that car until this was resolved. Public transport would be fine thanks. If the hobby isn’t worth a 4 hour round trip then do something else.

The smell will only get worse in the car in the warm weather Envy

Doginthewindow · 01/06/2022 18:03

So you’re going to do nothing about it then op?

RaspberryChouxBuns · 01/06/2022 18:04

You're going to have to say something, otherwise you're going to get sick in the car.

MeridianB · 01/06/2022 18:07

Based on your updates, I’d be reviewing my relationship.

It’s not just Jim. It’s your DP ‘s denial (really, he’s lying) that he smells anything, refusal to address or change anything and his responses to/treatment of you.

Do you know why he thinks you should be sitting in the back? Why would he mock you for walking around smelling like his unhygienic friend?

Scurryfunge12 · 01/06/2022 18:10

He must absolutely stink to high heaven for it to be seeping into fabric, transferring on to the clothes/bodies of subsequent car users and lasting for days. That’s absolutely ridiculous.

I mean, it’s almost unbelievable.

How does your DP cope around him? How does Jim not realise? I know people can go nose blind but that’s something else. Does Jim have other friends?

I can’t understand how someone can go around smelling that strongly and not caring. He must go weeks/months without a wash.

Tell your DP to stop giving him lifts. Dirty sod.

gunnersgold · 01/06/2022 18:11

Get a carpet cleaner and clean the seats then get a seat cover to use when Jim is in the car and remove when he isn't ! Sounds grim

Notclosenow · 01/06/2022 18:11

From experience, I think you would all be wasting your time telling Jim no matter how blunt or subtle you are.
His whole house and wardrobe will smell the same, it is indelible.
When confronted, the person I knew said nothing at all and then began sprinkling a load of aftershave around so there were then 2 stenches to deal with.
Only option is to protect the seat prior to him using it and air the car afterwards

AWOL66 · 01/06/2022 18:12

I think it'd be kinder of your partner to have a discreet word with him than to leave it if it's that bad.
It's all on his delivery - he could make light of it one day when they're both in the car alone and say something smells of damp - acting like maybe it's something in the car or his own clothes and act like he's looking for the smell.
He could point out it must be his clothes and say his have smelt like that when he left them overnight in the washing machine or left them to dry overlapping other clothes saying 'I couldn't get that damp smell out of my clothes for weeks. Now I do a big wash load once a week and put everything straight in the dryer until it's bone dry once a week' that kind of thing.

If he cares enough he'll start questioning his smell and if not really I'd just leave them both to do the hobby alone if I couldn't bare it and put a blanket on the seat if I sat there but wouldn't make a big thing out of it as you don't want to come across too harsh about his friends.

People who genuinely aren't judging can deliver things in a very innocent, kind, helpful way. I do question though if he's got a medical disorder which makes any perspiration stink as I saw documentary on this on Youtube before or maybe a mental health issue as that can make people not have great natural judgment.

We're all at risk of getting old and losing our marbles one day so it could be any of us!

StingrayStingray · 01/06/2022 18:12

Of course, it doesn't affect him and he doesn't care that it affects you. He's a crap boyfriend, LTB.

As @KettrickenSmiled says:
You don't have a b/f's smelly friend problem.
You have a problem with WhyTF you are shacked up with a man who thinks your place is in the back seat, who will laugh at you if you told him how upsetting your experience with your friend on Sunday was, & who reckons you are over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc.
Ditch you disrespectful b/f & the problem of the smelly friend is solved.

StingrayStingray · 01/06/2022 18:14

@ThatSmellIsntMeHonest So your "lovely" BF would leave you at home?! Well that tells you everything if none of the rest of it did.

What crap treatment you are getting! You deserve better! This is not a good man, go find another.