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DP and his smelly friend

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ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 17:03

DP and I have a shared hobby, and we drive an hour each way every Saturday to take part in it. We started dating as lockdown eased and I’d stay with him on weekends when it was allowed and we would travel in together. I never knew about the friend. Once mask rules were relaxed, DP said his friend, Jim, would be coming back to join us for the hobby. Jim drives but doesn’t have a car and lives a fair way away and so he gets the train, DP collects him from the station. Then we drive another 45 minutes- then the same in reverse in the evening. This has always been their arrangement and it only stopped because of Covid (friend refused to wear a mask so couldn’t travel by train).

The first time we collected Jim from the station, Jim went to get in the back, but DP indicated to him to get in the front and Jim asked if he was sure, DP said yes (not mentioned this to me before!) and so he got in the front and I got in the back. I quickly realised that Jim smells. Badly. A mix of body odour, urine and… damp? I’m not sure but it’s really quite horrific. DP claimed he couldn’t smell it at first but would always open a window (even on freezing cold days) as soon as Jim got in the car! DP now admits that Jim is “starting to smell a bit”. The smell is getting worse. It’s so strong I can smell it in the car for days afterwards.

A few times recently when we’ve gone to go out on a Sunday (we now live together), I’ve noticed the smell is still pretty bad in the car. It never occurred to me how it must’ve been in the fabric of the chair, etc. it just smells. Once after a day out I thought I could smell a similar, but not as strong, smell on my own clothes as I put them in the wash, but I decided I must be imagining it. Fast forward to this Sunday and we went to hell a friend move and after a while she asked what the smell was. I wasn’t sure what she meant and she said there was a strange smell. Eventually after sniffing her kitchen cupboards etc she clearly realised it was coming from me and asked if everything was alright. We’re very close and I asked her what it smelt of! She said she wasn’t sure but she was certain I had an… odour. Then it dawned on me. I took her to the car which had been closed in the warmth for a couple of hours by now and when we opened then door she said “that, you smell of that!” I told her everything. I was mortified. We went home and I washed my clothes and then washed them again, and took a long hot shower. I could smell it on my jeans. I don’t think he actually messed the seat (it was dry!) but I think somehow the smell is… seeping into the fabric? I’ve just gone to check the car (we haven’t used it since) and it still smells faintly.

I’m really at a loss of what to do! It’s the front passenger seat so I travel in it several times a week (I don’t drive). I’m wondering how many other people have thought I smell vaguely of BO and urine 🤢 This has been going on for months. My DP doesn’t see a problem and quite honestly would probably think it was funny if he knew what had happened on Sunday (I was too annoyed to tell him and have him laugh and find it funny). All I can think of is I start travelling in the back whenever we go out together (which will look and feel very weird, it’s also not the most comfortable of cars and I have back problems). I’m sure DP will be annoyed at this and say I’m over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc (and it would be pretty weird when we are the only ones in the car) but I don’t want to smell of someone else’s pee!

We are due to go out in a couple of hours and I’m dreading sitting in the car. It isn’t just the seat that worries me now, it’s the headrest, the belt. Since my friend said I smelt I’m paranoid and I don’t want to sit in a cinema smelling for 2 hours! I’m fully aware people have much bigger problems than this but what can I do that won’t cause issues with DP but also won’t make me feel uncomfortable whenever we go out in his car?

OP posts:
theemmadilemma · 01/06/2022 17:08

Some sort of cover for the chair for when you use it? After you've fumigated it. Clean it every weekend after he's been in it.

But seriously, if your DP's actually cares, it would be kinder to gently address this with his friend. It sounds like he's just not washing/drying his clothes well enough, seems to happen a lot with some single men.

MeridianB · 01/06/2022 17:09

Jim’s smell sounds hideous. And is enough of a reason to decline future lifts.

But your DP is horribly rude for telling you to move to the back seat for his friend. What’s all that about?!

Whose car is it?

Noisyprat · 01/06/2022 17:09

Can't believe your DP asked him to get in the front and you just took it and got in the back. Does he always treat you as a second class citizen?

Anyway I would be telling 'DH' that we are not taking Jim anymore because he smells and it makes me feel sick. I expect your 'DH' shrug and just override you though.

Do you have your own car?

AryaStarkWolf · 01/06/2022 17:11

Yeah I'd be pretty pissed if my OH told me to move into the back so his friend could sit in the front :/

MindPrison · 01/06/2022 17:12

Get a seat cover and some febreeze.
Let DP get the car Jim proofed before every lift, it's his mate.

Basilbrushgotfat · 01/06/2022 17:13

MeridianB · 01/06/2022 17:09

Jim’s smell sounds hideous. And is enough of a reason to decline future lifts.

But your DP is horribly rude for telling you to move to the back seat for his friend. What’s all that about?!

Whose car is it?

Exactly this.

DogsAndGin · 01/06/2022 17:14

Tell Jim politely to his face, “Jim, you have a very strong body odour, and it’s now affecting me. I am concerned about you. Are you using your shower and washing machine at home? Would you like me to help show you how to use the washing machine?”

Basilbrushgotfat · 01/06/2022 17:18

Also, if you're starting to pick up the odour then guaranteed your partner is too. Tell him he's starting to stink as well and I bet he doesnt laugh then.

Either he'll address the issue or he'll choose to end things so he can Jim can be stinkers together. Either way, you've lost nothing.

Kanaloa · 01/06/2022 17:19

He must smell extremely strongly if giving him a lift once a week leaves a stench so pungent it has permeated the seat and can be smelled on your clothes after traveling in the same car later. I would be surprised if a smell that extreme hadn’t been raised by his family/work.

Anyway your boyfriend sounds a bit rubbish doesn’t he? Maybe stop going to the hobby/go by yourself? Or mention it.

Kanaloa · 01/06/2022 17:19

DogsAndGin · 01/06/2022 17:14

Tell Jim politely to his face, “Jim, you have a very strong body odour, and it’s now affecting me. I am concerned about you. Are you using your shower and washing machine at home? Would you like me to help show you how to use the washing machine?”

Erm would you really say this to an acquaintance? In those words. Absolutely bizarre.

alwaysmovingforwards · 01/06/2022 17:22

If it's not your car and you can't drive, I guess if you want taking places you're at the mercy of your DP's decisions.

CanaryShoulderedThorn · 01/06/2022 17:23

Yes, what DogsandGin said is the kindest thing in the long run. I've had to say this to a student recently (turned out they struggled to afford laundry costs 😢).
However I'm not sure I could cope with a DP who relegated me to the back seat and who finds my embarrassment funny.

Aquamarine1029 · 01/06/2022 17:24

I don't know why you're willing to tolerate this. I wouldn't go anywhere with him, and I would expect my partner to stop allowing him in the car. FGS, this is insane.

Mamette · 01/06/2022 17:24

Your DP told you to get in the back? He has a friend who smells strongly of BO and urine and he thinks this is ok? He would find it funny if he knew someone told you that you smelled?

I’m not impressed with this DP.

AchatAVendre · 01/06/2022 17:24

Kanaloa · 01/06/2022 17:19

Erm would you really say this to an acquaintance? In those words. Absolutely bizarre.

I would too, but I grew up in another country. I might be marginally more tactful but it would be a choice between saying it and stopping giving him lifts.

I had to sit next to a smelly person on a flight recently, and it actually made me feel quite upset somehow. It lingered in my nostrils for ages.

I don't really understand all this floating about the issue and not being able to use your own car properly but really pointing this problem out to this man is doing him a favour.

Blankscreen · 01/06/2022 17:26

I would be buy a waterproof seat cover which is put on for Jim with a towel underneath.

After he has been in the car spray the car seat and seatbelt with dettol anit
bacterial clothes spray

i would also encourage you Dp to have a kind word with him

Notimeforaname · 01/06/2022 17:26

You'll have to open your mouth and say something or it will just stay the same.

Be assertive . Tell your partner and if he laughs it off , your other option is to tell Jim yourself.

Subtle hints about smells will not work. If has to be direct . Otherwise your only other option is to just deal with the smell on you .

Trivester · 01/06/2022 17:26

My first thought was how d your dp is? No man’s feelings are worth sitting in pee.

I’m going to assume that Jim isn’t in a relationship - smelling bad doesn’t lend itself to intimacy.

What your dh needs to grasp in this situation is that his ranking as a romantic partner also drops by extension. He cannot expect you to sit in the smelly passenger seat - if it bothers him that you sit in the back, then he needs to clean the seat thoroughly each time.

If I’ve understood the timeline correctly, you met dp at a time when he wasn’t regularly spending time in an enclosed space with Jim. What was his dating history like before?

How did you attend the hobby before this? I’d be looking for alternative transport.

fuckoffImcounting · 01/06/2022 17:27

DP sounds totally crap, telling you to get into the back ffs, and you sound afraid of confronting him. Either he respects your opinion on this and stops giving Smelly a lift or you let them pong into the sunset together and find yourself a respectful partner.

ComtesseDeSpair · 01/06/2022 17:27

Why won’t your boyfriend tell him? My brothers seem to spend most of their time cheerfully telling the other they’re stinky if they are, I always presumed men were far more easygoing about being told they need a change of clothes.

If he wants to do it sensitively, lockdown is the perfect excuse for wondering if a friend might be depressed: he can ask Jim if he’s feeling well in himself because he’s noticed he’s taking less care with his hygiene and appearance and would hate to think he’s letting himself go because of depression etc.

FictionalCharacter · 01/06/2022 17:28

No way could I be in the same car as this person or let them in my car.
I am cursed with an acute sense of smell and I’m badly affected by bad smells. They make me feel really ill. I feel your pain!
My DH has virtually no sense of smell and he just doesn’t believe that smelly people can be that bad. Jim sounds exceptionally stinky.
I just couldn’t tolerate that, I’d have to travel separately somehow if he refused to stop giving Jim a lift.

ChazzaGirl · 01/06/2022 17:28

Maybe your boyfriend knew all along about the smell and wanted you to sit the back so you didn’t have to be quite as close to Jim? It’s a difficult one - no one wants to tell someone they smell but equally no one wants to have to put up with such a stench.

What would your boyfriend do if you steadfastly refused to get in the car anymore? Would he take it seriously then?

Notimeforaname · 01/06/2022 17:28

"Jim I dont mean to make you uncomfortable but I have to tell you theres quite a strong odour from either you or your clothes eveey week and it's hanging around in the car and on my clothes after you leave" and leave it at that.

Up to him then to take care of it.

Kanaloa · 01/06/2022 17:29

AchatAVendre · 01/06/2022 17:24

I would too, but I grew up in another country. I might be marginally more tactful but it would be a choice between saying it and stopping giving him lifts.

I had to sit next to a smelly person on a flight recently, and it actually made me feel quite upset somehow. It lingered in my nostrils for ages.

I don't really understand all this floating about the issue and not being able to use your own car properly but really pointing this problem out to this man is doing him a favour.

You would turn to a grown man, who you only know through your partner, and say ‘have you been using your shower properly? Would you like me to show you how to use your washing machine?’

I honestly only ever see these pompous little suggestions on mumsnet. It sounds so patronising and bizarre to say to an acquaintance, a friend of a boyfriend.

axolotlfloof · 01/06/2022 17:30

If you don't feel comfortable raising it with Jim and your partner isn't interested, then you need to stop travelling in the car. Can you find your own way to joint hobby?

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