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DP and his smelly friend

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ThatSmellIsntMeHonest · 01/06/2022 17:03

DP and I have a shared hobby, and we drive an hour each way every Saturday to take part in it. We started dating as lockdown eased and I’d stay with him on weekends when it was allowed and we would travel in together. I never knew about the friend. Once mask rules were relaxed, DP said his friend, Jim, would be coming back to join us for the hobby. Jim drives but doesn’t have a car and lives a fair way away and so he gets the train, DP collects him from the station. Then we drive another 45 minutes- then the same in reverse in the evening. This has always been their arrangement and it only stopped because of Covid (friend refused to wear a mask so couldn’t travel by train).

The first time we collected Jim from the station, Jim went to get in the back, but DP indicated to him to get in the front and Jim asked if he was sure, DP said yes (not mentioned this to me before!) and so he got in the front and I got in the back. I quickly realised that Jim smells. Badly. A mix of body odour, urine and… damp? I’m not sure but it’s really quite horrific. DP claimed he couldn’t smell it at first but would always open a window (even on freezing cold days) as soon as Jim got in the car! DP now admits that Jim is “starting to smell a bit”. The smell is getting worse. It’s so strong I can smell it in the car for days afterwards.

A few times recently when we’ve gone to go out on a Sunday (we now live together), I’ve noticed the smell is still pretty bad in the car. It never occurred to me how it must’ve been in the fabric of the chair, etc. it just smells. Once after a day out I thought I could smell a similar, but not as strong, smell on my own clothes as I put them in the wash, but I decided I must be imagining it. Fast forward to this Sunday and we went to hell a friend move and after a while she asked what the smell was. I wasn’t sure what she meant and she said there was a strange smell. Eventually after sniffing her kitchen cupboards etc she clearly realised it was coming from me and asked if everything was alright. We’re very close and I asked her what it smelt of! She said she wasn’t sure but she was certain I had an… odour. Then it dawned on me. I took her to the car which had been closed in the warmth for a couple of hours by now and when we opened then door she said “that, you smell of that!” I told her everything. I was mortified. We went home and I washed my clothes and then washed them again, and took a long hot shower. I could smell it on my jeans. I don’t think he actually messed the seat (it was dry!) but I think somehow the smell is… seeping into the fabric? I’ve just gone to check the car (we haven’t used it since) and it still smells faintly.

I’m really at a loss of what to do! It’s the front passenger seat so I travel in it several times a week (I don’t drive). I’m wondering how many other people have thought I smell vaguely of BO and urine 🤢 This has been going on for months. My DP doesn’t see a problem and quite honestly would probably think it was funny if he knew what had happened on Sunday (I was too annoyed to tell him and have him laugh and find it funny). All I can think of is I start travelling in the back whenever we go out together (which will look and feel very weird, it’s also not the most comfortable of cars and I have back problems). I’m sure DP will be annoyed at this and say I’m over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc (and it would be pretty weird when we are the only ones in the car) but I don’t want to smell of someone else’s pee!

We are due to go out in a couple of hours and I’m dreading sitting in the car. It isn’t just the seat that worries me now, it’s the headrest, the belt. Since my friend said I smelt I’m paranoid and I don’t want to sit in a cinema smelling for 2 hours! I’m fully aware people have much bigger problems than this but what can I do that won’t cause issues with DP but also won’t make me feel uncomfortable whenever we go out in his car?

OP posts:
Poshjock · 01/06/2022 18:48

KettrickenSmiled · 01/06/2022 17:48

You don't have a b/f's smelly friend problem.

You have a problem with WhyTF you are shacked up with a man who thinks your place is in the back seat, who will laugh at you if you told him how upsetting your experience with your friend on Sunday was, & who reckons you are over exaggerating, nagging, being difficult etc.

Ditch you disrespectful b/f & the problem of the smelly friend is solved.

This.

Your "partner" values his friend's feelings more than yours. He gaslights you that the problem isn't as big as you know it is and he disrespects your opinions. This is the first big test of your relationship and the message coming across loud and clear is that you are not his priority.

greatblueheron · 01/06/2022 18:49

Your boyfriend's priority is his stinky, unhygienic friend, not you.

Heyisforhorses · 01/06/2022 18:50

Not a hope would I put up with this. I'd make my own way to the hobby if DP didn't change the situation. I understand not wanting to hurt his feelings but if DP calls him a friend it's a conversation that needs to be had

frog66 · 01/06/2022 18:50

Stinkers together! hilarious! but in all seriousness, yes it needs to be addressed definitely, but in a gentle delicate way.

me4real · 01/06/2022 18:50

I always volunteer to sit in the back if we're with someone with longer legs. But I suppose that's different as I'm volunteering.

Jim= three pronged approach- DP has a word, seat cover and Febreeze.

GodisaBC · 01/06/2022 18:51

Jim is clearly more important to him than you.

me4real · 01/06/2022 18:52

Come to think of it I think I always let guests go in the front as it's more spacious for them. But that's by the by. Jim should be made as uncomfortable as possible. Smile

Shedcity · 01/06/2022 18:54

Why do you move to the back
why does dp expect you to

why don’t you clean the seat

why are you with a man who either doesn’t mind that sort of smell, or doesn’t want to be kind to his friend and tell him? I don’t get it

and you say you’d miss the hobby if you didn’t move to the back? So dp would make you? Or refuse to take you if you didn’t do what he said? Jim sounds gross but if you ditch dp he stops being your problem

Bogofftosomewherehot · 01/06/2022 18:58

My DH has an incredibly stinky friend who likes being at one with nature. Last time he visited he admitted to not having a bath/shower all winter. 😠. I don't let him in my house. Gross. But then I've been with DH for years and just put my foot down.

You DP doesn't sound too "D" - making you get in the back, thinking it's OK for you to sit in a stinky chair and laughing at your embarrassment - you have a DP problem as well as a stinky friend problem.

I wouldn't tolerate it. If he won't address it I'd be telling him to go to hobby without me and finding a new hobby without them. Have the other people at the hobby noticed that he stinks?

Dominuse · 01/06/2022 19:00

MeridianB · 01/06/2022 17:09

Jim’s smell sounds hideous. And is enough of a reason to decline future lifts.

But your DP is horribly rude for telling you to move to the back seat for his friend. What’s all that about?!

Whose car is it?

Indeed - what the actual ? Little woman goes in the back?

Id address it with My boyfriend and if he didn’t take it seriously I would question our relationship

DrManhattan · 01/06/2022 19:05

I'm too much of a clean freak to allow someone who smells like that in my car.

ComtesseDeSpair · 01/06/2022 19:05

Is who sits where really such a big issue? It’s easier to talk to somebody in the passenger seat, OP’s boyfriend sees his friend for a couple of hours a week and her presumably a lot more frequently and for longer. Makes sense that he’d want to chat to Jim for the journey. DP or I always move to the back if giving a lift to a respective friend we haven’t seen in a bit to make catching up easier. Hang occurred to either of us that the front passenger seat is something to be territorial about.

Jim being stinky and boyfriend not wanting to talk to him about it surely the actual problem here.

LakeTiticaca · 01/06/2022 19:07

Jim needs to be told although if the smell is that bad, surely he must know. This kind of smell permeates everything. I was in a supermarket one time walking near a couple who smelt exactly how I imagine Jim smells. The whole supermarket stunk and people were visibly gagging. I didn't even touch these people but I could still smell the awful stench when I got home.
I wonder what their homes smell like?

MintyGreenDream · 01/06/2022 19:11

You can get a vanish spray that removes dog/cat piss odours I'd be getting some of that for the seats

Giraffesandbottoms · 01/06/2022 19:12

What’s the hobby?

Notanotherwindow · 01/06/2022 19:20

We had a smelly guy at work. His chair still stinks. We've poured an entire bottle of dettol over it and it still reeks.

Miscfeminista · 01/06/2022 19:22

I've not read through this whole thread yet but am I a horrible person to find the description of this situation(re smell)hilarious? I don't know what is wired wrong in my brain but I'm not only very sensitive to any kind of smell, I also shed some tears in my life from laughing at all kinds of smells 😂

On the other hand, I remember this very uncomfortable moment with my brother, who also doesn't get(no matter how many times you tell him)that he CANNOT get away with not showering every day, commenting ANOTHER guy at work who apparantley smelled even worse and wondered how he doesn't get he smells even when you tell him. It was a bizzarre moment...also made me realise that some men have a very very hard time taking criticism, to the point they are painfully unaware of their faults since they probably spent a lifetime minimising them to protect little fragile egos.

I think it has to do something with entitlement-you can only be unaware for so long, few years max(from adolescent age to early adulthood)be it bad habits and/or lack of awareness but after that most likely people tell them so these people are either very inconsiderate/entitled(because I would dare not smell bad around other people, it almost feel like I'm harming someone in a way, which is also weird)or they are depressed etc. It is telling that other men tolerate it, it's a certain privilege I believe

BreatheAndFocus · 01/06/2022 19:24

I’d say something to Jim. Not in a rude way, in a chatty, helpful way. Identify a ‘problem’ even if you honestly think the issue is he just doesn’t wash, then help him solve it.

For example, you could mention the smell and blame it on his washing machine, then give tips on how to clean it, and drop in extra tips about drying clothes properly. That way you’ve communicated to him that’s there’s a stench about him but you haven’t attacked him personally. You can also casually drop in comments that might be pointers to him eg “Of course, you’ll have 7 lots of socks and undies each week and blah blah” thus subtly communicating those things are supposed to be changed each day. Or are you actually saying he has a medical problem and is incontinent?? Again, if so, maybe helpful hints is the way forward, phrased in such a way to blame something else rather than him.

TBH, your DP sounds grossly unbothered by the smell. I’d find that very off-putting.

caringcarer · 01/06/2022 19:25

Buy him washing tablets, deodorant and shower gel. Tell him you have a little gift for him because he is a stinky and making your bf car smell bad. Buy air fresh for car, at least 4.

AssignedSlytherinAtBirth · 01/06/2022 19:27

I also let DP's friends (or DS) sit in the front seat so they can chat, but that's my choice. I wouldn't like it forced on me.

What's it like in the hobby, OP? Doesn't the smell affect you and other people there? Sorry, I've nothing to add but I'd be interested to know if maybe the teacher or someone had noticed and would be in a better position to say something..

whoruntheworldgirls · 01/06/2022 19:27

I think the car needs a proper valet then a cover for the seat Jim is on, as it sounds like your partner isn't going to stop giving him lifts.

KettrickenSmiled · 01/06/2022 19:27

gunnersgold · 01/06/2022 18:11

Get a carpet cleaner and clean the seats then get a seat cover to use when Jim is in the car and remove when he isn't ! Sounds grim

Yup, it is definitely OP's job to clean up after Stinky Jim & provide solutions to facilitate her lazy, lying, disrespectful b/f.

Dotell · 01/06/2022 19:32

There is a lot in your post that suggests you need to get rid of your DP. That will also take care of the smelly Jim problem.

DinoWoman · 01/06/2022 19:33

Could your DP maybe want Jim in the front as it seems more natural to have the front windows opened by the driver? It might be more obvious if DP opened a window in the back. Just a thought.

Jim needs a decent friend that is willing to be open and honest with him. This issue must be affecting his life in general -including dating! It would be doing him a kindness...and obviously resolve your problem.

Maireas · 01/06/2022 19:38

I think the boyfriend is doing this deliberately to get rid of the OP. He must know how noxious this is.