To be annoyed about the Jubilee

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I know I’m being miserable but I’m bloody pissed off about the sodding Jubilee! I went to sainsburys this morning, paid £1.68 a litre for petrol and then popped in to be confronted by bottles of champagne! The last thing I feel like doing is celebrating! I spent all morning cancelling non-essential DDs as things are really tight with the rise in energy prices and the increased NI contribution.
funny how this ‘magic money tree’ can be harvested to pay for this event when people are genuinely struggling and are told to ‘get a better paid job’! I have a bloody well paid job, thankyou, but am still feeling the pinch. I know people are going to say that the economy will benefit - but how? If people spend more then inflation will rise and the BOE will put up the mortgage rates! I despair!

Why this thread is going to be golden. 😂

I will so enjoy the next 9 pages of daft dramatics - as illustrated from the response above.

"Irish president costs less than 350k per annum, to would be great to hear the royalists' affirmative arguments as to why a similar system is a bad idea. If I can get the remaining brain cell to function I'll try and post a link."
What are the chances that a British president would only cost us £350k a year? It would cost many times that. Politicians will take any chance to expand their fiefdom and swell their coffers. We need fewer politicians, not more.

Politicians will take any chance to expand their fiefdom and swell their coffers. We need fewer politicians, not more.

just FYI the Irish president isn't a politician and there's no actual reason why a U.K. HOS would have to be

I wouldn't want her life, living in a gilded cage.

I do wonder if she looks at the pictures of her predecessors and thinks about how they could have politicians/plebs/republicans/whoever annoyed them carted off and introduced to their special employees with their rather large toy box of sharp things and fire and think you lucky lucky sods.

Feel free to get rid of them, but you're kidding yourself if you think politicians won't be measuing up the curtains in Buckingham Palace given half a chance.

Yes - the distinction between the Queen’s private money and public funds seems fairly academic to me.

I just googled it, and this appears to be the system for nominating and electing the president in Ireland.

www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/national_elections/presidential_election.html

You are right, it does not have to be a politician, anyone can put themselves forward but need nominations as outlined. Good system from what I can see and largely (or completely?) ceremonial too.

Ooof right there with you.
the idea of celebrating the ‘service’ of an insanely rich and privileged woman who does her best to dodge laws of all shapes and sizes and just last year paid for her awful son to avoid court boils my p155.
YANBU.

@Winterhail

'... 70 years on the throne...'

In our house that almost seems like the target.

I'd dearly love to have the nerve to ask outright something like "hey Charles, Liz, where exactly did you get all your money from?, how's the Duchy doing anyway"

Can you imagine A. Being allowed to ask, B. the response if allowed to ask, and C. finding the bail money when arrested for having the cheek to ask in the first place.

Still.....

YANBU. We plebs are supposed to be happy that we live in a country where the existence of a monarchy makes people vile snobs. And in a country where the government are despicable people who shit on the vulnerable from a great height and continue doing so.

I’d say we’ve never had less to celebrate in my lifetime, frankly.

CurlyCew I'm sure there is some professor or writer who's spent 250k of his own money on FOI requests etc., trying to get details.

They’re spectacularly dim then as the FOI Act is explicit that the monarchy is exempt from it. They obviously have more money than sense.

That reminds me, she likes evading other laws as well.
www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a36608416/queen-law-exemptions/

Blossomtoes PA has not been formally accused of any crime since (leaving aside the Met's performance on this one) the only case brought by his victim to date has been civil. You keep banging on about how much you like facts so maybe get them straight.

Do as I say, not as I do, and if you don't like it there's nothing you can do. Charles is next up......

It’s not an accurate definition of the crime he’s accused of. The offence was sexual assault of a trafficked woman

Where does that say he was formally accused? That was the basis of Robert’s Giuffre’s case and she accused him. Maybe check out your reading skills?

OMG there are some horrible comments on this thread - shame on you! This is an unprecedented historic event!! No-one does pomp and circumstance like the British. This is a 96 year old woman who has committed her life to serving the country since the age of 25. Nobody does diplomacy like the royals! And how many of you naysayers will still be working when you are 66 let alone 96? Would you like to daily have to plaster a smile on your face and talk animatedly to people who probably bore the crap out of you - and have every private move subject to scrutiny particularly from rabid repulicans?!! God save the Queen!!

It’s not an accurate definition of the crime he’s accused of. The offence was sexual assault of a trafficked woman

Your words Blossomtoes. Goodness me your wriggling is more and more ridiculous. But that's what happens when someone tries to defend the indefensible, especially (dare I say it) when they're woefully ignorant of facts.

To be absolutely clear: there are no offences in civil cases. Fact.

And the reality of the allegation of sexual assault in the case was rape, so let's not sanitise that too.

I think Q is still working at 96 to keep Charlie away from the top job as long as possible!

No-one does pomp and circumstance like the British

That's a typically insular comment and is very unfair on lots of dictatorships and totalitarian regimes around the world who have historically done incredibly magnificent displays of pomp and circumstance, much much better than our homespun pomps and circumstances.

Better tell the BBC then. And tell them it was rape while you’re at it.

In the interests of clarity (and hopefully to settle this once and for all), I am not and never have defended the disgusting piece of shit that is Andrew Windsor. Hopefully that is clear beyond doubt to any reasonable person.

Prince Andrew settles US civil sex assault case with Virginia Giuffre www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60393843

Nobody does diplomacy like the royals!

Certainly the FCO/ FCDO has tried/ tries not to do it like Prince Philip.

How ridiculous Blossomtoes. The allegations in the case were very clear. You seem surprised. Do you not accept that lack of consent was an issue?!