Part 6 keeping it civil - the Depp Heard jury is out

[ENoeuf]

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4556643-part-5-aibu-to-want-15-minutes-fame-depp-v-heard

hoping we can continue to discuss without unpleasantness - so far so good.

Verdict I mean!

No, he's also known for multiple violent incidents and I think he has another case against him coming up from someone who claims he hit them and security guards who claim he didn't pay them.

Towards the end he was loosing work because of his failure to turn up, his aggressive attitude and his behaviour. In the nurse Lloyd testimony I have just watched there are texts where he was said to kick a Door on set, was verbally abusive to the director and others on set. I have seen other texts/emails where he's apologising for previous abusive behaviour and his terrible texts about women can't be justified in any way.

He might be generous with his money and gentle etc on the outside but it seems the opposite when things don't go his way.

I think part of the problem was they were both very volatile people.

That's quicker than I thought it would be

No, me neither. Although I do think they will both loose their money claims.

I feel so sorry for them both.
The extent of trawling over their mental states, intimate details of their lives.
What if Johnny was simply not an addict? I strongly suspect they would have a family by now. I also suspect Amber became more of a matron figure because she was trying to keep him clean and she thought he wanted that.

Unfortunately,he loved his addictions more.

Are we really going to hear at 8pm Uk time?

They[ve decided fast. I genuinely believe it is going to be in favour of JD.

Yes, where are the usual suspects!?😁@ENoeuf @Midlifemusings @StormzyinaTCup @@Boulshired @TiddyTidTwo

Me too! I thought it would be tomorrow at the earliest.

*She could be ‘fronting’ it for her friend, pretending all is hunkydory by hamming it up with him. Those texts could be read in many ways, I can imagine many people I know talking like this (extreme sarcasm) in an effort to be funny and smart. It’s definitely not damning as far as concrete evidence goes…

That’s why I find the dry legal aspect to this case so interesting, it really shows up what can counts as strong evidence, and what will be seen as conjecture.

It is far too common that the media present conjecture as evidence, which is then pounced upon by the public as ‘proof’.*

I really sincerely hope you aren't referring to the texts he has sent repeatedly about burning Amber and other serious texts about women. There is absolutely no justification for those ever.

The law takes a completely different view.

Yes @adriftabroad , it'll be about 8pm today. But definitely start watching a little before if you want to watch it live, incase my maths is wrong.

I'm here.

Why do I feel emotional? How strange. Just come over me...

It[s a confident jury, thats for sure.

Oh sorry. Think I completely misread which texts you are referring too there.

I'm nervous! I don't know why.

I do too.

I'm sticking with my prediction from the other day

JD Claim:
1 statement (sexual abuse claim) = win. The other 2 lose
$7m awarded

AH Claim:
AH lose. I dint think she has enough evidence to show Walderman was speaking for JD

Thank you minou

I'm going to go with Minou with the predictions.

@minou123 - Checking in now👋 (regretting not doing beans on toast for tea but all sorted now!!)

Hold onto your hats everyone!!

I'm so nervous, it's weird 😂😂

According to Law & Crime:
JD won't be there, he is still here
AH will be in the courtroom for the verdict.

I don't know if that's true about AH, surely she won't want her reaction to be seen win or lose. Surely her PR people will tell her that's a bad idea.

Pretty much everyone I have seen speaking about JD have had nothing but positive things to say about him and what a nice guy he was. One of his co-stars even commented on an Independent article to say when he worked with him on one of the Pirates movies he was always punctual and unlike a lot of other stars, made a lot of time for the rest of the cast (he was genuine, I checked).

I'm not going to judge him on some potty mouthed texts that he probably sent in anger and whilst under the influence, and I do believe he has a dark sense of humour and way of expressing himself to those close. Personally, I don't think it is fair to judge a persons whole character on private words spoken at what I would imagine was one of the lowest points in his life. I will add that the same goes for those texts between AH and Josh, they could also be interpreted as a dark sense of humour between friends.

The fact so many people, including several ex partners have spoken up in his defence speaks volumes to me.

I have no idea what the verdict will be, but hope they can both move on afterwards.

Yay, your here. 😁

I think I just heard she isn't going to be.

I’m watching, I do not know what best regarding the verdict, if Amber has lost I do not want her facing a large financial lost, she’s already lost a income base and will need money for security. Apparently she has put money into trust for her daughter, hoping that’s correct. I think Depp will be ok as long as he hasn’t lost in a financial term. Definitely taking tonight (maybe a week) off social media.

She is threatening to use a knife on johnny with her friend joking or not, I mean he keeps mentioning he will bring it which doesn't sound like joking to me. And apparently texts johnny sends a friend not even to amber she doesn't know is worse what?????