To Say Well Done Suella Braverman.

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Of course I'm not and I'm going to applaud her. Well Done and Thank You! Brava!

I think she said some sensible things about single sex spaces in schools but disagree with having gendered uniforms anyway.

And it doesn't change the fact that she used the Erasmus scheme to study in Paris, but is as Brexity as they come and has removed those opportunities for others.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and Suella dearest is definitely one of those.

Yep!

You have to know what it's like to be living in the constituency her mum lives in (hence her being MP here) and what she's really like at supporting the locals (hint - she choose by postcode) and her actual support to those who need it re education (hint - none)

I could get up and say the right things I need people to hear.

But actions speak louder than words and hers are all for show.

And what is she have meant to have done exactly? Sorry, its not clear from your post.

Spot on!

This.

She's an idiot and her comments were disgusting. Children having identity worries need mental health support to help them work through matters, they don't need to be told "we're not pandering to you, suck it up".

She can go fuck herself, frankly.

I think we need single sex spaces and the architecture of public spaces needs to change to accommodate everyone. But I think that refusing to acknowledge pronouns is just plain unkind, and as for uniform - just ditch it already and let people wear what they want.

Transphobia is popular right now, that's what Braverman's statement was all about.

She's a Johnson sucker upper with no integrity or credibility and she seems to be a rubbish constituency MP. Spectacularly thick as well.

She's really unpleasant and while she supports the morally corrupt Johnson I've no interest in anything she has to say.

Cue the posters who try to justify continued support for the sociopathic liar Johnson and his corrupt acolytes.

She's a horrible person, and this seems a horrible decision that will make kids more unhappy for no discernable benefit.

Her article reminded me immensely of my school days when Section 28 was in full effect. My best friend and his boyfriend were suspended for being openly gay, our head of year also rang both sets of parents and outed them to their families. The boyfriend's family were fine, my best friend's family not so much and his dad beat him before throwing him out of the house. Teachers would call boys who were being weak or pathetic (in the teacher's opinion) nancies/nancy boys. A female teacher was made to resign after pupils found out she had a girlfriend and was a regular at the local gay bar (and most gay bars had a policy of no photographs on the premises because such photos could be used against people). A friend tried to talk to her form teacher as she thought she might be gay, she was bluntly told "I can't discuss this with you and I suggest you don't tell anyone".

That's the sort of environment she's advocating a return to. Regardless of where you stand on the issue (and I'm not getting into that), do you really want children to be told that the way they're feeling doesn't matter, that any struggles or issues they're having in that area aren't real, that they should just ignore it and carry on as normal?

What did she say and where? Maybe I missed the link.

The more voices speaking out against gender identity ideology, and for the safeguarding needs of women and girls, the better. It is normalising discussion around this subject, and blowing right through "no debate".

She’s totally unsuitable for the role of AG, and often gets the law wrong as in this case.

And a big old fuck you to the children caught in the crossfire of your transphobia, yeah?

When you read her comments, replace "trans" with "gay" and it is literally Section 28 rehashed for 2022.

Absolutely. Supporting this repulsive woman in what she says is unspeakable in my opinion.

Why would you be replacing 'gay' with 'trans'? They are completely different things?

Being gay never required teenage girls to have to share changing rooms with their male peers. It never required children to be pumped full of puberty blockers, or get their breasts removed before they have even reached their 20s. It never required people to chant mantras that are not true like 'transwomen are women'.

The trans movement piggybacked onto LGB exactly so that they could credibly use comparisons like Section 28 to force people into accepting males in female spaces and kids being prescribed powerful drugs and having body parts routinely chopped off.

What was the story here?

She said that schools didn't have to respect the choice of pronouns of their under 18 pupils.

I think that's unacceptable.

And I think it's unacceptable too. It's a giant leap to take from respecting someone's pronouns to saying we must all support physical/hormonal transitioning under 18. I have two trans young people in my household and neither is taking the process lightly or taking irreversible decisions - and both are adults. A lot of the anti trans debate seems to be about putting people back in their box and pretending they don't exist. Very like gay young people when Section 28 was still in force, in fact.

Hate is hate and her anti-trans rhetoric is exactly the same way gay people were discussed and treated in the days of Section 28 policies.

Telling children to shut up about their gender identity issues, that they won't be "pandered to", that how they're feeling isn't real, and that their school has a firm line on not accommodating them is bullshit. It will push a lot of affected children into a mental health crisis. Ignoring something and taking a firm line against it is not the way forwards. Children (and adults for that matter) who are questioning their identity need support and acceptance, how can they work through their feelings if they're being told those feelings don't exist?

This is the story that the op didn't link to and assumed everyone knew what they were talking about:

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/attorney-general-transgender-pupils-schools-b2089298.html%3famp

www.bayswatersupport.org.uk/

The Bayswater support group is for parents of children with identity issues/dysphoria who need support and information.

She sounds disgusting and yes it sounds just like section 28. Awful transphobia

I have a child who is questioning their gender identity too. They don't want to change their pronouns yet or outwardly present as a different gender but they're trying to pick through these feelings and make sense of them. They don't want to go chopping anything off or taking drugs, they just want to be able to process it all, they want to be their own self, and - most importantly - they want to be loved and accepted for who they are.

How would my child be able to do any of that in a school environment where they're told that these issues and feelings are irrelevant and unimportant? Where they're forced to keep quiet and not mention it?