To Say Well Done Suella Braverman.

[AnonIsUsuallyAWoman]

Of course I'm not and I'm going to applaud her. Well Done and Thank You! Brava!

FrippEnos
that is true but the privacy/comfort of males is not as important an issue as the safety of females.

I'm a parent of an autistic girl who now says she's a boy.

I really wish her teachers hadn't fallen over themselves to show how accepting they were of her new identity. It actually seemed like they were delighted to be able to prove how great they were at equality.

What she actually needed and still needs is affirmation that it's perfectly ok not to be a stereotypical girl (most of us actually aren't) and that what she thinks is gender is actually personality. She doesn't need to reinvent herself because she doesn't fit the girly girl image.

All we can do as parents and her family is to keep reinforcing how great she is just as herself while it seems other people, particularly some teachers, seem to have lost touch with common sense. It would have been ok to say no to her pronouns and new name and to tell her these are decisions for when you are older and have more life experiences.

She's 13 with a maturity age of around 10. We would also have said no to tattoos and body piercings had she decided that was going to be her thing. We have also said no to dying her hair blue unless in the school holidays.

Teens experiment with who they are. They always have done through things like being a goth, a punk, a mod etc. Never before though have so many, seemingly previously sensible adults, also jumped on the same bandwagon, to be part of the teen phase. That's where things have gone very wrong.

Oh they'll be all over you for that comment.

I can't understand how right thinking women can actually support the likes of Johnson and Braverman either.

So i imagine plenty of people who work in schools have had the exact conversation I've described - child wants to be called a different name and pronouns and the adult decides whether it's ok to tell that child "no, you're a girl and pronouns are bullshit, now get back to class". Or whether they should respect the child's choice in what they wish to be called.

And when we tell the other children "Jane has decided he wants to be called John from now on" and they ask "Is John a boy now?", what should we say to them?

Thank god for Suella

@Lindy2

i would not have affirmed your child, I would merely have told them I was glad that they felt they could explore their personality. I don’t use the word gender. I agree that children need adults to uphold reality.

Would they support the BNP if the BNP were prepared to scrap the Gender Recognition Act, they won't answer my question.

Happy with a populist soundbite are you?

1. I am obsessed, with ensuring that young people are treated in a developmentally appropriate way when they exhibit gender distress - this is a space to be listened to and a chance to explore why they feel this way. I am obsessed in ensuring that they are not physically and mentally damaged long term.
2. I don't support anybody who agrees with me, but I'm playing the game not the player - so there may be people on my team who I don't like, but we're trying to achieve the same thing.
3. Do I feel embarrassed fawning.... - fawning eh? Not seeing that myself.
4. Perhaps you could try addressing people's points and concerns, rather than just relying on insulting them.

Of course they won't. Some of them are so obsessed they'd defend any reprehensible policy as long as it followed their agenda. Nothing else matters to them.

@ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave yeah at least the BNP or EDL know what women are....

Good grief.

Cheers ilovesooty

She's an appalling minister. I'm not going to applaud her, despite her support for single sex provisions within schools.

The Tories have co-opted the "GC" position for political gain. The party doesn't really care about women and girls.

Arent we all mostly made up of space?

So just looked up suella's voting record. Against gay rights, against safe abortions, against the human rights act... And this:

Suella Braverman voted against carrying out an assessment of the impact of Government policies on women; against mitigating any disproportionate burden on women and against publishing a gender equality strategy

And

Suella Braverman voted against requiring an annual report from the Equalities and Human Rights Commission analysing information on the gender pay gap and making recommendations to close it

This is what you want to ally yourselves with? This? You're here, applauding her because she's speaking out against respecting gender non conforming children. Now i get where that whole "right side of history" thing comes from.

No. But then again, I would have hoped that Labour, the party I have always voted for, would not have thrown women and kids under the bus for a ridiculous ideology.

I am disgusted with what certain Labour politicians have come out with, most recently Stella 'women can have a penis' Creasy today.

BelleTheBananas I think yours would have been exactly the response she needed.

Highlyquestionablehoumous
How does that affect you personally?

@ilovesooty clumsy sarcasm intended

How does what affect me? Being told a woman can have a penis?

Well, for a start I want to use a space that is labelled 'female' and know that it is only going to have females in it. If I don't mind sharing with males (and some people don't) then I can use spaces that are clearly labelled as mixed sex.

I also don't want females in prison to have to share their space with a male rapist and their 'lady penis'. Lisa Nandy of the Labour Party disagrees with me on this and is on the record as saying that she believes that a male rapist should be allowed to go to a female prison if that's what they want. I also want females who need to use a woman's refuge, or a hospital, for a example, to be able to know that it is a single sex space. Free of penis.

What's so bad about any of that?

Apologies! Thank goodness for that 🤣

Probably not a great idea to do that tbh - it will be screenshotted out of context on Twitter by TRAs before you know it.

Lindy2, my autistic 12 year old daughter is , like your daughter, a tom boy.

Autistic girls are susceptible to this trans fashion because many autistic girls have sensory processing issues which makes 'traditionally boys' clothes more comfortable and given that autistic girls have social communication difficulties it's unsurprising that they find the social 'chit chat' of girls of a similar age challenging. All of a sudden our girls are told that they belong to a trans club which is very popular, hey presto a cool identity. Why wouldn't they?

It's highly disturbing that given the Cass report has demonstrated that the influx of girls identifiying as trans is predominately made up of autistic girls or girls with other developmental or trauma responses that any adult who stands up to this is called a bigot.

Given that our girls are being conditioned to believe that sterilisation is the cure I really do believe that eugenics has a part to play in this. At least in the silence of the professionals who know exactly which kind of girls are affected most by this ideology.