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My family is being harassed by a 13 year old girl

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Backachesandheadaches · 27/05/2022 15:27

This sounds absolutely bizarre because I KNOW she is a child and she SHOULDNT have this much power but here we are.

DS (12) had a friend we'll call her Hannah (not her real name) who is 13 they always had a turbulent friendship which involved Hannah abusing my son physically/mentally and emotionally, on a daily basis and then crying when he would react at her.
Anyway they fell out for good after she disclosed a horrific secret of my DS's one of which is true and has affected him massively.

Ever since my family have dealt with graffiti on our property and all over the area we live, random bouts of knock a door run between the hours of 10pm and 11pm all times having woken our youngest child (4) and he becoming hysterical through fear, we have dealt with Hannah and her friend let's call her Emma (not real name again) shouting obscenities at the house when windows are open, we are STILL dealing with Hannah and Emma prank calling MY phone number on a regular basis (over 60 calls) and acting like idiots over the phone, Hannahs mum has tried to have me done for harassment (?!) This was counter reported by myself as we are not causing any harassment and are in fact essentially sitting on the back lines watching it happen to us. We have had Hannahs mother call the police maliciously and LIE to the police telling them me and the kids were being beaten (not true and police saw it wasn't) and today we have been PULLED by the police on a 'tip off' made by Hannah and Emma that my partner is driving under the influence of alcohol and drugs (both tests were negative)

What can we actually do about this? I report every single incident to the police and absolutely NOTHING Is done about it! We have blocked all their phone numbers, we are being FORCED to move out of our home of the last 13 years due to this! We move by the end of the year.

Nobody is taking us seriously, we are being reported maliciously left right and center for things that are categorically untrue and false and are all malicious.

I know it's not the Hannahs mother as she no longer drives past my house as the police told her to stay away from me due to her harassment, but her daughter and her daughters friend are constantly walking past my house on a daily basis which is how they've snapped a photo of my partners car to make the malicious call.

We are essentially trapped in this and have no way out. Police aren't being helpful, we can't go and sort it ourselves (as tempting as it is) what the hell do we do?

We are DESPERATE

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whatdoIknowabout · 27/05/2022 21:17

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Strictlyfanoftenyears · 28/05/2022 09:10

Surely the irritation of changing your phone number is much cheaper and quicker than moving? is it possible to change your childs school and remain where you are? in this scenario I would pay some thug to warn her off (not violently obviously but a word in her ear)

ConsuelaHammock · 28/05/2022 10:57

Buy a ring doorbell or similar on Amazon. Forget about birthday presents for the moment as this is more urgent. Post the footage on social media for all your neighbours to see.
Change your phone number?

LIZS · 28/05/2022 11:01

Moving won't solve the phone issue. Will your ds move school as a result?

BlanketsBanned · 28/05/2022 11:03

Do not post any footage of them on social media, just give it to the police.

woodhill · 28/05/2022 11:18

So sorry OP but surely if she is like this to others then the council/ social housing will have to deal with her.

Could you record the girls bashing your door and coming onto your property

Backachesandheadaches · 28/05/2022 11:45

@woodhill I have a camera in my window, since it's been there they haven't been on the property, however it's mainly phone calls now either to my phone, or to the police (all of the calls to the police are malicious) and are proven to be so.

As others have posted, my son will be moving school yes. He can't go to the local school in our current area because we actually live in the same area as the girl and since they all went to primary together and my son was bullied at primary (which is why I sent him to the school out of the area in the first place) her friends go to the local school and it wouldn't make any difference to the situation.

A couple of people have said forget about birthday presents, I have less than a month to get a few bits for my sons birthday, the door bell doesn't trump my sons happiness on his birthday.

As for moving, once we are physically out of the area they won't know the address or where we are so the malicious calls to the police should stop and I won't be needing to report to the police on a nearly daily basis so I can then block private numbers off my phone. We are also looking into changing the number plates on our car so the photo of our car (assuming they have a photo of it) becomes obsolete and they can't make any more malicious calls and getting us pulled over for lies about drunk/drug driving (again police are aware after stopping us that this is another malicious call and no marker has been added to our car)

This started as a teenage fall out, nothing more, nothing less and ever since I've blocked her number on my sons phone/WhatsApp/social media etc she has targeted myself and my partner. She can't get to my son so she's getting to us.

This is the part that to be quite honest baffles me completely, why is she so OBSESSED with doing what she's doing, the 2 times the police have been called by her and her mother out of maliciousness could of easily seen my partner screwed, 1 was for allegations about him hitting me/the kids and another was for allegations he was driving under the influence of alcohol/drugs none of these are true, they are complete lies. This has become more than just 'playground politics', this is affecting everyone in my family. Its honestly ridiculous. I genuinely dread the next day because I simply don't know who will ring me/come out/what new malicious allegations will be made up etc.

I should of seen all of this coming from how she's manipulated my son for the last 2 years but I never thought she was capable of being so well evil is the only way I can put it.

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Notanotherwindow · 28/05/2022 12:37

The police will deal with the malicious calls to them as she's wasting their time. If you change your number then she can't reach you either.

VanCleefArpels · 28/05/2022 12:47

Make a formal
complaint about the police non action here in the light of all the evidence you have described. Contact the Office for Police Complaints

www.policeconduct.gov.uk/complaints-reviews-and-appeals/make-complaint

this may encourage them to take another look at your situation

BlanketsBanned · 28/05/2022 13:12

How does she know yours and your dp phone number, the calls wont stop, you can have friends, family etc calls redirected to your mobile and just not answer anything else, leave it on ansaphone and report it to bt who can give you a new number.

Backachesandheadaches · 28/05/2022 13:18

@BlanketsBanned she knows my number as I gave it her when she and my son were friends, as my son didn't have a phone at the time, so she could contact me If needed. She doesn't know DP number.
She calls on my mobile she doesn't know the landline number as its ex directory and I rarely answer that anyway.

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whowhatwerewhy · 28/05/2022 13:36

The police will soon get fed up with the unfounded calls , they may even do her for waisting police time .
If you have video evidence of them causing damage I would forget Hannah and target Emma's parents, they might be better parents and deal with her . Like I said before Hannah might not be so brave on her own.

Backachesandheadaches · 28/05/2022 13:41

@whowhatwerewhy Emma's parents are just as bad. You know what they say, birds of a feather... stick together.

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whowhatwerewhy · 28/05/2022 13:59

That's popped my idea then , I was thinking there might be one decent set of parents.
Could you maybe get a cheap pay as you go phone just for the police to contact you on ? You can then block all other withheld numbers on your phone.

Backachesandheadaches · 28/05/2022 14:20

@whowhatwerewhy that's a good idea il have to have a look how much it will cost to get my old phone fixed and a sim put in it

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Backachesandheadaches · 28/05/2022 14:20

@whowhatwerewhy that's a good idea il have to have a look how much it will cost to get my old phone fixed and a sim put in it

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Trainbear · 28/05/2022 14:25

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If you are abused because the abuser thinks you have a protected characteristic it can be reported as a hate incident/crime.
We were being harassed by a group of young men, who happened to be gay. If we reported them, they would say we were reporting them as they were gay. Police inaction.
A Muslim friend came round to take me to a cultural event at the local masjid. She asked me to put on a hijab, I did. We looked out the window at said abusive young men. The response was... Islamaphobic. Called the police immediately, wuthnessed by friend. Dear little men arrested and taken away, reported to the landlord and tenancy ended.
Victory!

Pinkishpurple · 28/05/2022 14:38

She seems hold a worrying amount of hatred towards your son. I would worry as she gets older her behaviour would escalate and he will be in danger. I think you are doing the right thing moving house and school. How awful that the police have been so useless! I hope you are moving far enough away that they don't have friends in your new area. I think you should do everything you can to prevent them from finding out where you are moving, this includes informing the teaching staff at his current school they should not reveal where he is moving, i say that as i know at my kids school they always say goodbye and where the kid is going! I really feel for your family!

Ferngreen · 28/05/2022 14:46

This is the part that to be quite honest baffles me completely, why is she so OBSESSED with doing what she's doing, the 2 times the police have been called by her and her mother out of maliciousness could of easily seen my partner screwed,

I think what happens they publicly say or do something - 'that little shit disrespected my DD/DM whoever' and 'he's not going to get away with that'

Then they don't know how to stop without losing face to friends/the other members of their family etc.

I suspect it's the same with a lot of the stabbings - the 'tough' guys can't (in their eyes) lose face.

Oblomov22 · 28/05/2022 14:55

Sounds horrendous. It's infuriating that the Police aren't taking this harassment more seriously.

Backachesandheadaches · 28/05/2022 15:21

@Pinkishpurple that's what's I'm worried about, however it's now being aimed at myself and my partner. It's like we are living in hell, we wake up every day wondering what's coming next.

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Oblomov22 · 28/05/2022 15:24

I agree with Trainbear, you might need to be savvy and play them at their own game. take legal advice to try and find a way to either get the police to take action or to get a solicitor to take action. on a legal technicality whether it be harassment or victimisation or some other legal term that you can use against this family.

LIZS · 28/05/2022 15:30

If the trauma happened to your ds it seems a leap for her to harass you and your dp. Is your ds under any victim support or safeguarding as a result?

Vimto1991 · 28/05/2022 15:33

I fell out with a friend at a very similar age and they harassed my family via prank calls and threats. My mom went over to their house to ask them to stop and their mom actually threatened to go to the police that my mom was harrassing them, so your story is spookily similar.
my mom said if they look on their phone bill and see my families number then they need to come to the house and apologise or my parents would get the police involved, if the number wasn’t on there, my mom would go around and apologise.
what happened next?
they never showed at the house again, they didn’t call again, and were actually sent to another school where i never saw their face again THANK GOD.
are you able to push the mother a little more, maybe with advice from 101 on what you can do or say? This mother needs to understand whose in the wrong and see it’s her child being malicious!

Nothappyatwork · 28/05/2022 18:47

@Vimto1991 A member of our family that that went round to try and reason with the mother unfortunately she ended up on trial for interfering with a witness and was going to get a longer sentence than the person that was actually doing the harassing so I would strongly recommend staying away from these people. Especially with any witnesses around.