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Why the fuck is Boris Johnson still Prime Minister?

449 replies

noblegiraffe · 26/05/2022 17:18

Fucksake. I mean seeing minister after minister wheeled out to defend the indefensible in the media rounds. Do they have no shame? Prattling on about how it was an 'essential part of leadership' to be a Toastmaster to an illegal piss-up. No, leadership was the Queen sat alone at a funeral, like so many of her subjects had to do. Not carrying on with your unprofessional boozy work culture and then have your team crow about how they 'got away with it' when they successfully didn't vomit in front of the cameras there for another press conference telling everyone how important it was to stick to the rules.

Johnson knew it wasn't right to have birthday parties when he personally wrote to a kid saying they were right to not have theirs, but then thought it was just fine to have one of his own and then announce that all rules had been followed to Parliament? (The police disagree, as does anyone who was forced to cancel their own celebrations).

Telling people that it was his duty to have a party for leaving colleagues while at the same time people couldn't be with dying family?

And now they are having the gall to say that he has accepted full responsibility? How? That sort of statement is followed by a resignation, not a 'now let's forget about it and move on'. How has he demonstrated that he has done anything apart from his utmost to weasel out of taking any sort of responsibility, to the point of asking Sue Gray to give up on her report? The report that that he told the rest of us that we had to wait months for the outcome of to find out what he already knew.

He says he wants to deliver what the British people want. Polls said yesterday that a majority want him to resign. Get the fuck on with it then.

But polls also showed that only a tiny minority of people actually believe he has the integrity to do the right thing (learned from bitter experience).

So what, the British people are stuck with this craven, corrupt liar as leader?

Well no. He could be no-confidenced by his MPs. What the fuck are they waiting for? Do they think it is to their benefit to have him shitting over public office every day? 'Oh but they can't think of anyone better'. What exactly does that say about the state of the Tory party if that's true?

Cannot stand seeing his face, hearing his pathetic lies, seeing his shitty schtick any more. JUST FUCK OFF BORIS.

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SirChenjins · 30/05/2022 17:24

I don’t blame you. It indicates the absolute contempt they hold for the public.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 30/05/2022 17:33

Although I suppose it could be worse. My MIL wrote to her MP to express her unhappiness over another matter (brexit) and he responded by turning up on her doorstep to discuss it.

SirChenjins · 30/05/2022 17:38

Every cloud and all that…

Happygirl79 · 30/05/2022 22:29

I wrote to my MP to say Boris must go and got a 'stock response'. I. E. Boris knows mistakes were made. He apologised. Things have changed. Etc.
I thanked him for his automatic stock response and assured him he has now lost my vote
Too busy holding on to his job rather than doing the right thing for his constituents and his country.

Happygirl79 · 30/05/2022 22:38

Our Conservative MPs are a utter disgrace to be honest. So many looking out for themselves rather than their Constituents and country right now. The Conservative party is being dismantled by Boris Johnson

noblegiraffe · 30/05/2022 23:12

Johnson is getting utterly desperate now. Stories about how the Tories will bring back grammar schools.

Guess who is majorly in favour of bringing back grammar schools? Sir Graham Brady who is currently counting letters...

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knowinglesseveryday · 30/05/2022 23:13

Happygirl79 · 30/05/2022 22:29

I wrote to my MP to say Boris must go and got a 'stock response'. I. E. Boris knows mistakes were made. He apologised. Things have changed. Etc.
I thanked him for his automatic stock response and assured him he has now lost my vote
Too busy holding on to his job rather than doing the right thing for his constituents and his country.

Same here. Please let them dump him.

Blossomtoes · 30/05/2022 23:16

Happygirl79 · 30/05/2022 22:38

Our Conservative MPs are a utter disgrace to be honest. So many looking out for themselves rather than their Constituents and country right now. The Conservative party is being dismantled by Boris Johnson

Great, isn’t it? Hopefully they’ll never see power again after this.

1dayatatime · 30/05/2022 23:22

Because he has a 78 seat majority and doesn't give a fuck what you or I think about him. He's managed to get the top job, doesn't want to stick around for a second term anyway and will probably scoot off to the US afterwards so bollocks to all the voters.

SleeplessInEngland · 31/05/2022 09:55

A new poll this morning. But please Johnson apologists, tell us again how '"no-one cares about Partygate"

🌳Con 31 (-3)
🌹Lab 42 (+2)
🔶LD 11 (+1)
🎗️SNP 4 (=)
🌍Green 3 (-2)
⬜️Other 8 (+1)

2,177 UK adults, 27-29 May

francesfrankenfurter · 31/05/2022 10:48

People are still really angry about party gate.

L1ttledrummergirl · 31/05/2022 11:00

If my MP had put forward a good moral and ethical reason for supporting him, she may actually have kept my vote. Not because I agree that he should stay because I think he should have gone immediately, but because she could demonstrate that she had considered the evidence, listen to constituents and had our towns values at the heart of her decisions.
This kicking the can down the road and blind adoration of Johnson has put me right off.

This is the problem. MPs need to show they live the values of their constituents or they can't represent them. Right now they have and are continuing to do the opposite.

noblegiraffe · 31/05/2022 11:02

francesfrankenfurter · 31/05/2022 10:48

People are still really angry about party gate.

It might have blown over if it was just about parties anymore.

Now it's about the lies, the cover-ups, the treating the public like they are stupid.

The contempt.

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noblegiraffe · 31/05/2022 11:02

It might have blown over if it was just about parties anymore.

Now it's about the lies, the cover-ups, the treating the public like they are stupid.

The contempt.

I agree, and I think the contempt for the public is going to be what does for them. They're behaving like they think they have the divine right of kings.

If they'd just coughed to the gatherings as soon as all this came out, said they thought it was ok but now realise it wasn't, and apologised whilst at least pretending to be humble, there's a reasonable chance this would've all blown over by now. Instead it's dragged on six months, there's been a self inflicted and really damaging enquiry and they're polling awfully.

Mumwantingtogetitright · 31/05/2022 14:49

My MP has finally responded to a series of emails about this issue. She apparently supports the PM because he apologised,Hmm and now she wants him to focus on the important issues facing the country.

So, if nothing else, I suppose I have learnt that integrity definitely isn't something that my MP considers important. I hope that her decision will come back to bite her in the ballot box at the next election.

In the meantime, I'll just have to hope that there are still enough Tories left who have at least a vague notion of needing to do the right thing.

noblegiraffe · 01/06/2022 14:29

Looking at Twitter, I'm wondering whether the MN interview with Johnson might just finish him off. There seems to be universal delight that he was asked straight up about being a habitual liar, and no one is buying his answers.

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noblegiraffe · 01/06/2022 14:29

Looking at Twitter, I'm wondering whether the MN interview with Johnson might just finish him off. There seems to be universal delight that he was asked straight up about being a habitual liar, and no one is buying his answers.

Just seen Twitter! I'm quite proud of us! Well done MNHQ!

Mumwantingtogetitright · 01/06/2022 15:19

It's the main headline in the Times too (on the app). And on Sky News.

Maybe it really will finish him off!

[excited]

ClaudineClare · 01/06/2022 15:22

Well done to the poster who posted the habitual liar question!

BanjoKnockers · 01/06/2022 17:23

Now it's about ... treating the public like they are stupid.

I really don't like Johnson, but I have a lot of sympathy with him on this point.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 01/06/2022 17:26

BanjoKnockers · 01/06/2022 17:23

Now it's about ... treating the public like they are stupid.

I really don't like Johnson, but I have a lot of sympathy with him on this point.

Why? Because he was bleating about his illegal birthday bash being a miserable affair?

BanjoKnickers · 01/06/2022 17:53

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 01/06/2022 17:26

Why? Because he was bleating about his illegal birthday bash being a miserable affair?

No, because the public evidently is stupid.

(Whether it's ethical to take advantage of stupid people is more up for debate.)

Blossomtoes · 01/06/2022 18:23

BanjoKnockers · 01/06/2022 17:23

Now it's about ... treating the public like they are stupid.

I really don't like Johnson, but I have a lot of sympathy with him on this point.

Why?

BanjoKnickers · 01/06/2022 22:32

I refer the honourable lady to my previous answer.

Ferngreen · 03/06/2022 08:26

I am praying wondering if the Conservatives are waiting to oust him after the Jublee, not wanting to cause a distraction this wknd