To think that the partygoers at Downing Street should be sacked

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Until I read the Sue Gray report today I was, frankly, fairly 'meh' about the whole thing, but it's appalling isn't it?
The Head of Ethics, Helen MacNamara, taking a karaoke machine to a party. Martin Reynolds, a high level civil servant (due to be our next ambassador to Saudi) boasting on WhatsApp about 'getting away with it'. Vomit on the walls. Cleaners and security staff abused.
I don't buy the blaming of Johnson (though I believe he should resign). They are all adults, and many were probably in the job before he came along.
I'd sack them and take away their nice pensions.

100% agree. It’s disgraceful. People died alone during lockdown rules.
everyone should read the report

I agree they should consider their positions and/or face disciplinary action.

Why would they lose their pension?

Yup. If I behaved like that at work I would be sacked. BJ didn’t even really acknowledge the gaping chasm between his the rest of the country were behaving and what him and his staff were doing. And that bollocks about not apologising for saying thank you to a worker who was leaving. And the crap about them working long hours etc. the doctors and nurses on ITU were working a lot harder. They weren’t partying and spewing up the walls. It’s unbelievable really that they were doing that while our kids missed out on school and socialisation. People weren’t able to grieve together. People died alone. People lost jobs and businesses. People were lonely and isolated - whist this lot partied. If we had all done that…

I have never felt this angry with a government before.

Considering they were the ones telling us not to do it you are right. However you have to be realistic, they just don't care what you think, they'll move onto something else to distract you from it and all will be forgotten.

That would be virtually all the staff, though.

The PM attended several of these parties and encouraged them. He is the one who should take responsibility.

They should resign or be dismissed.
What we knew already should have been enough but hearing the utter contempt they held the staff in and hearing how they actively interfered with lower staff trying to adhere to the rules actually disgusts me.

Agree. I feel foolish for following the rules now, TBH.

They should all go - and that should start at the very top with Boris Johnson.

I don't feel bad about having followed the rules, though. I always knew most people are better than the scum currently running things in Westminster.

I’m a civil servant (big department) and we cannot drink on the premises. Been in place many years. As it should be

It is beyond appalling. Johnson should resign - but he won’t. He has absolutely no moral compass.

Even without the backdrop of COVID, behaving like that at any kind of office party is disgraceful.

TBH though, if any of them are sacked this would just be used as a “well, heads have rolled” kind of get-out, and given Johnson isn’t going to resign there seems little point.

Scores of them should go, but while Boris remains, I don’t see that the government has any moral authority whatsoever.

And even if you don’t care about the regular breaches of the applicable Covid laws, it should be deeply troubling to everyone that the current government seem to be a collective of perma-partying binge-drinkers. If they were like this during lockdown, I can only imagine that they’re worse generally.

Given the time, place & context it's unforgiveable.

I feel foolish for following the rules now, TBH.Agree. I feel foolish for following the rules now, TBH.

I never understood this sentiment. Most people followed the rules to keep themselves safe as much as anything. People break the law all the time for instance, they drink drive, break the speed limit, murder and abuse, and sometimes they get away with it.

That doesn’t make most of us think that we might as well break the law and do whatever we want though does it?

People died of COVID. Nobody wanted to be one of them. And most people didn’t want someone else’s catching COVID on their conscience.

I didn’t follow the rules because Boris told me to. I followed the rules because I didn’t want COVID, and in the event I caught it, I didn’t want to spread it.

That doesn’t change just because others didn’t.

It’s an absolute disgrace. The lot of them should go!

I agree with you op

boozing, throwing up, up until 4am

Then a pandemic on top

They chose to do it

Agreed

Considering that the junior staff allegedly filled in the questionnaire and the senior staff got off because they didn't, we're pointing the finger at the wrong people. As said in Parliament today, the fish rots from the head down. Johnson should be out and lose his pension before anyone else is removed.

I know a lot of people are sick of hearing about it. But even if we hadn't been in a pandemic and the rules hadn't been in place, I would have been horrified by some of that behaviour.

These are the people making decisions that affect everyone in the country and they're being sick with drink in the workplace and spilling wine on walls? How much of the bill for those parties came from taxpayers who now can't afford to heat their homes?

Yes, they should all go. But I suspect no-one will go. And that, unfortunately, says quite a lot about the quality and integrity of the people who are running our country.

I don't disagree but awaiting the verdict on Keir Starmer as well

Utter disgrace I agree & they should all be sacked. Bojo was not an innocent bystander, one rule for us & another for them

I agree OP (not with the pensions bit though). The overall responsibility lies with the PM. That's why nobody is going anywhere - they are all thinking "why should I resign when he won't?".

The worst thing is many will shrug this off and vote for more of the same.

I agree.
But it was absolutely crystal clear Johnson was a liar who cared about only himself when he stood for PM. Really, what did people who voted for him expect?

To make this party political for a moment, I know Keir Starmer is criticized for being boring and lacking charisma but (even if you wouldn’t vote for Labour for whatever reason)….at this point wouldn’t it just be nice to have an adult in the room, who takes their job seriously?