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To not tell baby’s name to stranger in park

175 replies

BilboBagBin · 24/05/2022 21:26

NCed incase minute chance the guy sees this and can get info on us.

And sorry if this is unnecessarily long.

DD is under one. We went to shops and had picnic lunch in city centre park on way back. Park was busy as it was sunny today, plus has lots of paths used to walk through/cross through to high street, and is near the Uni.

We sat in shade of tree on grass away from but within site of main path. Some sunbather around etc

Am just minding my own business feeding the baby (DD tried cress for first time and was less than impressed) and enjoying spending mum/baby time together.

A young man, maybe twenty (without my noticing) had crossed the grass to us and asks ‘what is dear daughters name?’

Looked like a student with hoody and rucksack but would also describe as looking smart.

I was completely thrown by being approached and asked this out of nowhere and said something ridiculous like I didn’t want to have a conversation with him. (I meant I didn’t want to tell him her name but didn’t know how to phrase it) He very calmly replies “can I ask why that is?”

Again, was a bit thrown by being asked to justify why I didn’t want to speak to a complete stranger in the park (my brain was saying ‘Sarah Everard’) so I just said I didn’t feel comfortable. He looked a bit put out but seemed to accept that and left.

Its hard to put my finger on it but the whole thing just really put my back up. There are lots of scenarios in which I would talk to strangers/men in the park and even tell them DDs name but…

Things that felt off were:

No preamble. If he had made some kind of small talk about baby etc before asking for personal info I would have found it more normal.

He wasn’t with anyone, a child/woman/friends.

He had to deliberately come out of his way (presumably) to get over to us.

No reason given for needing to know baby’s name (comes under small talk I guess)

He was standing and I was sitting.

There was a MN thread a few months back about something like ‘have you ever been in the presence of evil,’ I wouldn’t go that far but that is the kind of thing it was like, just felt dodgy even though the guy didn’t do anything and appeared ‘upstanding.’ Maybe he would have gone on to ask me if I accepted God in my life or similar, who knows,

So UABU: I was rude to random guy in park and should have told him DDs name. (I wasn’t rude in the way I spoke to him but some people might consider not being willing to chat with a stranger rude)

or UANBU better safe then sorry

Felt like I had to keep checking behind me on way home.

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OurChristmasMiracle · 24/05/2022 22:03

I don’t think you were rude. You were clear that you didn’t wish to engage in conversation. Why are we so conditioned to please others that we are forced to make ourselves uncomfortable? Saying NO to anything YOU don’t want to do is perfectly
reasonable.

I also think your spidey senses were tingling that this young man seemed off to you.

Dashdotdotdash · 24/05/2022 22:03

There was a MN thread a few months back about something like ‘have you ever been in the presence of evil,’ I wouldn’t go that far but that is the kind of thing it was like, just felt dodgy even though the guy didn’t do anything and appeared ‘upstanding.’

This sounds a bit ridiculous, to be honest. He went away when asked, clearly he didn't have any evil intent. I suspect he was simply someone with social communication difficulties.

Riverlee · 24/05/2022 22:04

I was Lao going to comment from your title that asking for a name is not that unusual in the course of a conversation (have done it before myself).

However, in the scenario you mentioned, then I would be wary also. My twenty year old would not go up to a strange woman with a baby and ask her her name (strange as in unknown, not as in weird). As you say, there was no small talk either.

Although, thankfully, the risk of anything untoward is very low, trusting your instincts is usually a good policy. You did nothing wrong.

BilboBagBin · 24/05/2022 22:07

EmmaH2022 · 24/05/2022 21:29

Probably one pf those god awful blokes targeting women for practicing conversation.

yes, it's a thing.

no, you were not unreasonable.

i hadn’t thought of this but it is definitely a possibility. Maybe it’s unfair to make a snap judgment based on 1 min of convo but there was a bit of an incell vibe about him.

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Minimalme · 24/05/2022 22:10

You did the right thing. And actually saying you didn't want a conversation was much better than telling him you wouldn't give her name.

Well done you! I have always been bloody hopeless in these types of situations but it is so important to be able to speak for ourselves and our children.

BilboBagBin · 24/05/2022 22:11

alqoqjn · 24/05/2022 21:34

He refers to her as 'dear daughter' ? How bizarre

😁he just said ‘baby’ am clearly to used to using MN speak

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GoFishandChips · 24/05/2022 22:11

Chuggers are required to wear ID badges aren’t they? They always have lanyards on.

They are but some keep it hidden and then reveal it once they have broken the ice, happened to me in my younger days when I thought I was being chatted up but they just trying to get me to sign up for their makeover photoshoots, my ego was very much dented!

I think he might possibly have been neurodiverse, but even if he is no reason you should feel the need to engage OP.

JacquelineCarlyle · 24/05/2022 22:12

RomeoMcFlourish · 24/05/2022 21:29

It’s never unreasonable to refuse to engage with someone who’s making you feel uncomfortable. Doesn’t matter what they think.

Completely agree with this!

hangrylady · 24/05/2022 22:13

YANBU. You weren't in a conversation at the time and it all sounds odd. Trust your instincts.

Sleepyquest · 24/05/2022 22:14

DashboardConfessional · 24/05/2022 21:34

I think you just know when someone's intentions are perhaps not quite transparent. Well, I do. My best friend is the sort where we were on a train, a terrifying man with a shaved head asked us if we spoke French and she chirped "She does!" and pointed to me. At which point he revealed himself to be an actual Nazi.

I'm quite impressed with what you said to be honest. I probably would have told him the name and then beaten myself up about it for ages.

Me too 😔 I'm trying to retrain myself to stop being 'polite' when I don't need to be

BilboBagBin · 24/05/2022 22:14

@ElenaSt i do wonder if it was something like this but no lanyard or clipboard visible.

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NightmareSituation · 24/05/2022 22:15

YANBU. Women have an inner panic alarm and you should always listen to it.

fluffycereal · 24/05/2022 22:17

Readtheroom · 24/05/2022 21:51

Maybe theyve got autism

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girlmom21 · 24/05/2022 22:19

YANBU. It's a strange way to initiate a conversation and a strange response when you said you didn't want to chat.

EsmeSusanOgg · 24/05/2022 22:19

That was astonishingly strange. That's not an opening question with a stranger.

Imnotgonnacrie · 24/05/2022 22:19

I had a man do this to me at a Christmas fair. Came over and started asking questions about the kids. I told him to leave me alone and then when he seemed reluctant, went over to the event security and asked them to make sure he stopped bothering us. My kids are older and were bemused by why I was being rude to the friendly man, but I said that even grownups don't like talking to strangers if they make us feel uncomfortable and that it was the man who was being rude, not me.

Lavenderlast · 24/05/2022 22:20

He was a creep OP and your instincts were bang on. You explained that you didn’t want a conversation and then he forced one on you. = Creep. His focus on your daughter = mega-creep.

Nice guys don’t approach random women in the park and force clearly unwanted conversations on them.

Sorry this happened.

BilboBagBin · 24/05/2022 22:21

NightmareSituation · 24/05/2022 22:15

YANBU. Women have an inner panic alarm and you should always listen to it.

This is a good way of putting it, my alarm was going off for sure!

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hangrylady · 24/05/2022 22:21

Readtheroom · 24/05/2022 21:51

Maybe theyve got autism

So? Shall we just all accept odd behaviour and feeling threatened on the off chance someone has a disability?

ElenaSt · 24/05/2022 22:23

All throughout this post is this advert which depicts a woman being chased by men which is a bit bad taste considering the post is from a woman who was fearful Dow her safety.

To not tell baby’s name to stranger in park
BilboBagBin · 24/05/2022 22:24

I Thanks everyone for your replies. You have all made me feel a bit better about the situation. Am still a bit creeped out now thinking back on it but glad I was reasonable.

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SirGawain · 24/05/2022 22:25

alqoqjn · 24/05/2022 21:34

He refers to her as 'dear daughter' ? How bizarre

I don't think he did. It's just the OP using Mumsnet Shorthand.

TimeForTeaAndG · 24/05/2022 22:26

ElenaSt · 24/05/2022 22:23

All throughout this post is this advert which depicts a woman being chased by men which is a bit bad taste considering the post is from a woman who was fearful Dow her safety.

I've got ads for Pampers and stain remover soap. The ads are targeted from your cookies, not the thread itself.

BilboBagBin · 24/05/2022 22:30

ElenaSt · 24/05/2022 22:23

All throughout this post is this advert which depicts a woman being chased by men which is a bit bad taste considering the post is from a woman who was fearful Dow her safety.

Wow! That’s terrible. The other day I was reading a thread about gambling addiction and noticed all the ads on the page were for betting. Thought it was a bit off.

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EmmaH2022 · 24/05/2022 22:30

ElenaSt · 24/05/2022 22:23

All throughout this post is this advert which depicts a woman being chased by men which is a bit bad taste considering the post is from a woman who was fearful Dow her safety.

Wtf is this and why is it on MN?!