Should I pay for their vet treatments

[Crazycats1991]

I sold a ragdoll kitten last Monday at 14 weeks old from my litter of kittens 3 days later her eye has swollen and become infected the new owner has taken the kitten to the vet and it turns out she has herpes virus or Chlamydia virus from contact with another cat, she said he hasn't been near another cat but none of the other kittens in the litter are unwell and neither is mum and the other cat in my household. I have however offered to pay for half the vet fees.
AIBU to only offer half the vet fees and should pay the full amount
Or
AINBU and i don't need to pay any of the vet fees
No receipt or contract was given and the kitten was in good spirits and seemed healthy and she even sent me videos of her playing and jumping about in her new home
What should I do?

You're confusing me OP, what breed are you breeding?

£500 for a breeding cat to a family with out of control children... you can't be seriously thinking you're an 'ethical breeder'. Pregnant cats need calm environments, not noisy kids.

You should be paying all of it, incubation is 3-10 days, if she's only had the kitten 3 days, it's pretty clear it's come from your cats.
That's the bottom line, all the other info you're spouting to justify yourself is irrelevant.
Be responsible and pay up.

OP is probably talking about a ragdoll specific genetic test that has to be done once not a yearly ultrasound somemother breeds have.

OP, you know darn well that selling unneutered cats will allow anyone to breed from them, whatever endorsements you put on their paperwork. This is the reason lots of people neuter their kittens before they go to new homes.
£500 for active is ridiculously low. You're seriously undervaluing your kittens, especially if their parents have titles. Of course if you can afford it, nobody can stop you.
RC is rubbish food, sorry.

Well unless it is confirmed to be herpes or Chlamydia, in which case it probably did come from the mother, I don't think you should worry too much op. You have paid for the eye ointment which is the right thing to do. Minor eye inflammations are common in kittens. It will probably settle down with the eyedrops. Cat vaccines cover against herpes at least, so although they can still get infected they should only get minor symptoms.

It sounds like the new owners were trying it on getting you to pay for all the worming and flea treatment! If they come back wanting anything else I would want receipts and evidence of the cause of the problem, or give them the option to return the cat.

For what it's worth the op sounds a lot better than most breeders, don't know why you're getting such a bashing

There's nothing inherently wron with breeding a cat. And RC is a premium cat food. It's in the most expensive category. What food would you suggest?

You really are deluded if you think that restrictions on the kittens registration paperwork will stop the new owner from breeding from that kitten at all.

It will stop them breeding that kitten and registering the progeny with whatever registry you use (TICA/GCCF).

It will NOT stop her breeding that kitten to a stud owned by someone else unscrupulous who doesn't mind people producing unregisterable litters from their stud.

It will NOT stop her breeding that kitten to some moggy or other breed kitten.

It will NOT stop her letting that kitten wander and being bred by any tom-cat in the area.

You are beyond naive if you think it will or if you think everyone wants registered pedigree kittens - they don't, very few people do, that is why the cat fancy is in comparison to the dog world, TINY.

So much rubbish here. No the OP could not be taken to court unless it could be proved that the owner knew that the kitten had an eye infection. And even then the owner would have to inform the OP of their intentions and give them chance to pay. And then the OP would only get a court judgement against them if the court found against them

There is no definitive diagnosis then? Just an eye infection that has been mooted as possibly herpes?

The main problem is that everyone seems to want a rag doll cat.
It's fashionable and so many people who get one, know that they can make a fortune from breeding from them.
Like cockapoos and other shitpoos... it's to do with money and just do the minimum in order to get the pups/kittens out of your house.

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There's nothing wrong with breeding a cat that came with breeding rights and is worth breeding to enhance the breed. All the other cases just add to an already existing problem.

RC is full of grains and animal by-products, cats are carnivores. One of my cats (picky one) eats dry, mostly Taste of the wild, some insect based ones and raw. My other cats are mainly on raw and I sometimes add canned (grain free) for variety.

I'm fully aware it isn't going to completely stop all breeding but I know I've done all I can without having to neuter at what I believe to be too soon as there are higher risks of problems under anesthetic increased risk of urinary tract issues obesity and behavioural problems. I will have done everything within my power to prevent it, I also aim to home to people I believe wouldn't exploit a cat like that.
I know royal cannin isn't the best but it suits my cats extremely well I have in the past tried raw food and whole prey but it didn't agree with one of them and the other wouldn't try it.
Look at it on the flip side of the coin if everyone lowered their prices people wouldn't want to breed them as there would be no money in it where as people can save to buy a £2k cat and breed it every year of its life. I however breed twice and stop before the age of 5 and love my cats for the rest of their life. Not everyone is going to agree with what I do but personally I've tried extremely hard to make sure I do everything correctly except from on this one occasion I didn't hand her the receipt with the rest of the paperwork and have since emailed it to her now I have gone above and beyond to give my kittens the best start in life. The kitten is being tested for Chlamydia and feline herpes virus if she has them I will pay all her vet bills in the future in relation to this condition if she doesn't the lady has agreed to give me my money back as the vet agrees it is unlikely to be from my cats or my house. And none of the tiger kittens in the litter have been ill and neither have my cats and again it seems almost impossible for them to have caught something

I breed ragdolls but someone commented to say British shorthairs have lovely temperaments so I was just agreeing 🤣

If nobody bred pedigree cats we wouldn't have any.
And to the person commenting about roaming, ragdolls are indoor cats you wouldn't let it go outside so that wouldnt happen

Sorry but I just don't believe this.
I have a pedigree dog. I have his pedigree. If I want to breed I would register him with the kennel club and match him with a registered female. The pups would then be registered as pedigree kc pups. None of this is any business of the original breeder. I can't see the cat world being any different.
Are you saying that you had to get permission from wherever you got your cat from in order to breed her? Rubbish!

The cat world is different, you can mark
the cat's registration papers as 'not for breeding'. In itself it's not enough. If you want to breed, you need to pay a higher price.

But that's not what OP is saying she's saying new owner needs permission. Is that a thing? Sincere apologies if it is but it sounds ridiculous. What if they move house or change their number?

But that's not what OP is saying she's saying new owner needs permission. Is that a thing? Sincere apologies if it is but it sounds ridiculous. What if they move house or change their number?

It's definitely a thing with the breeder I got my dog from. We're not allowed his pedigree papers until he's neutered.

If the breeder moved or changed her number she'd still be a registered breeder so we'd still be able to find her contact details.

I'm sure that's not right. It says quite clearly on the kc site that you should get papers
Kennel club

Why are Kennel Club endorsements placed? The use of Kennel Club endorsements is undoubtedly beneficial to breeders as a measure to help in protecting stock which has been carefully and responsibly bred. It is generally assumed that breeders endorse their stock to safeguard the dog's future, the breed and themselves. that is from the kennel clubs website it is definitely a thing it is to prevent back yard breeders, and breeders that don't put thought into who they chose to breed their animal with, these endorsements can be lifted. I sold a cat as not for breeding 2 years down the line the owner contacted me and asked if she could breed her I asked who she would be breeding the cat with and together we found a stud cat that would be a good match to the queen as she had a slightly undershot jaw that ordinarily doesn't cause problems but if you are wanting to breed you breed to get the best of the best therefore enhancing the breed.

Itlogged... this is what the 'not for breeding' part means on the registration papers/pedigree. If you breed from a cat like this, you can't register the kittens, so they won't be considered purebreed.
Breeders also have a contract on top of this, with different terms and probably very little enforceability. (This is why I neuter mine before they leave.)

Also if you chose to breed a cat dog or any other animal which says not for breeding and tried to register them as pedigree the original breeder would be told, I agree that it doesn't mean it doesn't happen but it defeinatley helps to prevent it from happening.

Despite the amount of abuse I have been given on here I really do breed responsibly and I'm known in RL for doing that. If one of my cats ends up in a new home or animal shelter when new owners contact the registering body I will be told and I will be straight down to collect that cat as that is my responsibility as a responsible breeder if ever someone is unable to have their cat that I bred any longer I will always have them back always.

Doesn't make any sense why you asked on here rather than in the cat community

I asked a few people but they all said they was unsure, I also asked on a cat forum but it didn't get much traffic and only had 1 reply and I wanted more replies

This. Breeding animals is an unethical way to earn a living 😡
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@Itloggedmeoutagain I have a copy of the pedigree - I just don't have the actual papers

That is right-
I was told that if the person who bred your puppy doesn’t hand you the KC reg certificate, that it’s impossible to register the dog yourself.

When you have the KC certificate, you can change ownership details to yourself.

Ours came with a puppy sales contract, a health guarantee ( Pup was checked by breeder’s vet, but we were advised to get a check by our own vet ) and also this:

“ The breeder takes responsibility for all dogs produced by them for the life of those dogs”
And a request that the dog be returned to them if unwanted or unable to be kept for any reason .

The breeder has taken back two in the past, One aged 11, where the loving owner went into a Nursing home and another where the owner emigrated for work.

A refund of purchase price 100% if returned before 12 weeks of age,
50% before 6 months of age
25% if returned before 12 months of age.

contracts like this show the breeder of the animal stands by the animal for his or her lifetime.

Cats ideally need a similar contract to help keep them “ Safe” , so they don’t end up being sold on or abandoned.

It happens, even with expensive pedigree animals.
A programme on Instagram puppies had a Vet who said pedigree pups often get abandoned ( sometimes with terrible injuries from being hit by humans because they have soiled on the expensive carpet or whatever.
A little Pug puppy was shown who had lost an eye from a beating.