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What were you doing on November 13th 2020

666 replies

TeaAndChoccie · 23/05/2022 22:34

while the PM was partying.....?

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DoubleCarbs4Life · 24/05/2022 06:55

Was it a weekday? I would’ve been physically at work. Schools were open again by then.We we’re still operating year group bubbles, one way systems, masks etc.

There were no parties in the staff room Hmm.

Roussette · 24/05/2022 06:58

The media is constantly feeding this nonsense

So you don't mind that our Prime Minister is a liar?

Here he is being asked straight off, was there a gathering on Nov.13th? He says NO. He was there!

not because Boris had a drink or spent 15 minutes dropping in on a gathering

You know it was just 15 minutes, do you? How?
Your post says that you do not care that there were 18 gatherings, Johnson was at, at least, 6 of them and he lied about it because 'I don't care what he did'.
With all due respect, you should care what our Prime Minister does. Because not caring takes the country down a very worrying path.
I'm not trying to topple him, I want him to cling on with his fingertips until the next GE. For obvious reasons.

As for reporting other news, the Government, the public and everyone else are quite capable of doing and commenting on more than one thing at once.

crumblecrimble · 24/05/2022 06:58

It was 9 days after my mum's funeral, so I was struggling at home unable to see anyone. I had to restrict the numbers at the funeral too, we all sat apart with our face masks on. We couldn't have a proper wake. No party for us.

Vebrithien · 24/05/2022 07:00

I was at home, breaking my heart with PND, PTSD and a 5 month old who was clinically vulnerable, having been born prematurely. We'd seen family once in those 5 months. There were no baby groups on, we'd not had any GP, or health visitor visits. No one had ever seen him smile in real like. I couldn't see a way out.

I wanted my Mum, my sister, someone to come and sit with me and talk to me.

I am so sorry for all of you who have experienced losses and trauma.

pudseypie · 24/05/2022 07:01

I was at home alone with my baby and 9 year old, as DH was in hospital after having a heart attack at home which my dc's saw. It was my ds9 birthday the day before & not only was his dad not there, we couldn't have anyone round. I was falling apart and really needed support but couldn't get it due to lockdown.

All the while they were partying in No.10... I thought we were doing the right thing following the rules, but clearly they didn't apply to those making them.

LincolnshireYellowBelly · 24/05/2022 07:03

I was at home. Supposed to have gone away that evening for my 40th birthday. My 40th celebrations got rearranged 3 times, each time it got cancelled because I was a close-contact in the school I worked at.
no one in my school met after work for secret drinks…or at least they didn’t invite me!!

MinnieMountain · 24/05/2022 07:03

It was 2 days after my DM’s funeral. Which I went to in Wales from England having very carefully checked that I was allowed to.

Prettypussy · 24/05/2022 07:06

I was at work (in a primary school). I spent the day non-socially distanced with a bunch of 6/7 year olds and other members of staff. I probably ate my lunch with colleagues socially distanced in the school hall. We discussed how silly it was that we had to pend the day in such close contact but couldn't have a drink together afterwards and how pointless and ridiculous that was.

SueSaid · 24/05/2022 07:14

Plenty of people will have been at work where groups of people will have been in the same room. Granted not with booze but as we know with Starmer booze was drank at work by politicians.

These pictures have been investigated. BJ wasn't fined. The sad stories about funerals are predictable but not actually relevant as the photos don't show him attending a funeral with 100 when we only were allowed 10, they were socially distended at work. No dancing or congas seen.

Hortensiateapot · 24/05/2022 07:15

IstayedForTheFeminism · 24/05/2022 00:45

Well it didn't. But every other profession had been told they weren't allowed to do it. School children weren't allowed to play together in the Park despite being at school all day.

If you're going to make rules you need to follow them.

This.

I was at work, in full ppe and bubbled/social distanced from colleagues and clients to ensure that if one person got covid it didn’t bring down the whole practice and stop us being able to provide emergency care to animals. Figuring out how to put peoples animals to sleep compassionately while obeying the rules (vets). If their jobs were so vital to the covid effort/keeping the country going, why weren’t offices and departments bubbled and careful in their actions to reduce the risk of covid putting whole swathes of staff our of action due to contact tracing/isolation as it was at the time? If we had done what they did and been caught out, there would have been consequences as our regulator take “bringing the profession into disrepute” extremely seriously. They treated number 10 like some kind of foreign embassy where the law doesn’t apply… then lied when caught out.

BadAtMaths2 · 24/05/2022 07:17

Arranging flowers for daughter in law for her husband’s grave. Anniversary of his death and she couldn’t travel to us to put the flowers there herself because covid. Sad little group of us at graveside. And she was stuck on her own miles away.

the rules were nonsensical at that point, but they still 8n a very real way impacted on people’s lives. I don’t want a PM who lies so consistently, blatantly and treats us like fools.

SwanBuster · 24/05/2022 07:18

Taking a clandestine trip to Bernard Castle.

jamdonut · 24/05/2022 07:18

i was at work, in a school , during the day.

I don’t know anyone who thinks that this is news or worth bothering about any more.

That same year, after the kids had gone home for Xmas hols, we all had a socially distanced Xmas quiz ( each teacher/ta in class bubble, on-line ) . No drink. ( because still at work, obvs).
Presuming now that we were all ‘guilty’, even though we had all worked through lockdowns etc, etc? Don’t think it crossed our minds that we couldn’t have a little light relief at the end of the working day. It was for about an hour then we went home.People who had been in the same building together all day …

nancy75 · 24/05/2022 07:26

@MeanderingGently
Kier Starmer was caught having a drink too, have they hounded him?

Is that a joke?

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 24/05/2022 07:27

We were in Tier 3. So on my 50th birthday shortly beforehand, I’d gone for a walk with a friend - that was my “big” birthday celebration. On the 13th itself, I had an all day Teams meeting, trying to manage a construction site remotely. It was allowed to work, as it was classed Critical National Infrastructure, I could have gone in, but was cautious when the Tier 3 came in.

Roussette · 24/05/2022 07:33

These pictures have been investigated. BJ wasn't fined

Yes. And there's an uproar about that. Understandably. As others were fined at this illegal gathering.
And he categorically denied there had been any sort of gathering on 13th November in the house of Commons.

Even though he was at that gathering where people were fined.
He lied to the House.

BogRollBOGOF · 24/05/2022 07:34

I'm more pissed off about the lingering shitty "Coz Covid" rules in 2022 than then.

We didn't save Granny. She's slowly dying of old age and at the stage of could be in hospital at any moment. There's no fucking point in trying to get my children over to her country anymore to see her because institutions like hospitals and carehomes are STILL policing relationships/ access to loved ones.

We went over last year when DH was permitted to see his mother for 2x 30 minute windows. It was the first opportunity in nearly 2 years since our last regular visit when she was still in decent form. The children and I couldn't see her. Fortunately DH has managed to get a few solo weekend visits in, but there is no point in paying €€€€ to get the family over and find that we can't see her. Again.

Covid still gets in the wards anyway. So human relationships are STILL being prohibited for scant benefit.

Granny last saw my children when they were 6 and 8.

They are 9 and 11.

The real question is not about Boris' bevvies, it's why such cruel rules were imposed and sustained for so long.

SueSaid · 24/05/2022 07:37

'And he categorically denied there had been any sort of gathering on 13th'

They were at work. If they thought they were breaking the law why on earth allow photos?!

I know it's hard, much like beers in Durham seem questionable but they were at work. Please dont let Paul Brand and itv whip you up so much.

DameHelena · 24/05/2022 07:39

I don't remember, so probably nothing remarkable. Nothing particularly bad has happened to me in or as a result of the pandemic.
But I still care, because I'm not a sociopath and I am able to appreciate the difficulties, sadness and tragedy many people have gone through.
It's not even the parties so much – well, I mean, it is obviously – but the really egregious thing is the barefaced and sustained lying about them.
If this doesn't bring Johnson down then I don't know what the fuck will. Even if it does put paid to him, though, I still think our very idea of democracy has been dealt a fairly serious blow.

Roussette · 24/05/2022 07:40

They were at work. If they thought they were breaking the law why on earth allow photos?!
Can you stop everyone taking photos at everything you go to? No.

How come the Met deemed it an illegal gathering, but you don't?

Please dont let Paul Brand and itv whip you up so much
Patronising much?

No answer from you to his outright lie in the HoC then. Thought not.

Snowiscold · 24/05/2022 07:41

I don’t know anyone who thinks that this is news or worth bothering about any more.

Everyone I know thinks this is news and is worth bothering about. It’s serious.

Roussette · 24/05/2022 07:41

But I still care, because I'm not a sociopath and I am able to appreciate the difficulties, sadness and tragedy many people have gone through. It's not even the parties so much – well, I mean, it is obviously – but the really egregious thing is the barefaced and sustained lying about them.

^ This 100%

Dashdotdotdash · 24/05/2022 07:42

Aaaabbbcccc · 24/05/2022 01:14

@nancy75 i could not care less. anyone who is suprised by lying politicians can’t have experienced much of the real world. Starmer did it too!

No, he didn't.

toomuchlaundry · 24/05/2022 07:43

@JaniieJones have you seen how many bottles of alcohol there are on the table in that photo? Not sure many places of work allow that much alcohol when working. Maybe, that explains why they are such a shitshow and Boris denies there was a party, he was too drunk to remember

Anotheronestatisticssuck · 24/05/2022 07:43

Packing to move house a week later with absolutely no help with twin toddlers. Nobody could come in and look after them while I packed and I couldn't take them anywhere but we managed it. Pales into insignificance with other peoples' stories but it felt pretty hard at the time