What were you doing on November 13th 2020

[TeaAndChoccie]

while the PM was partying.....?

@me109f - “We need parliamentarians who deal with real problems, and do it with integrity and efficiency”

Do you expect integrity from the PM or is he somehow exempt?

It would appear that he is exempt as he has swiftly put pen to the ministerial code, on the back of the SG report!!

Roussette
*BJ has rewritten the Ministerial code and removed the words 'integrity, transparency, honesty and accountability'.^

Has he??

1.3 The Ministerial Code should be read against the
background of the overarching duty on Ministers to comply with
the law and to protect the integrity of public life. They are
expected to observe the Seven Principles of Public Life, set out
at Annex A, and the following principles of Ministerial conduct:

c. It is of paramount importance that Ministers give
accurate and truthful information to Parliament, correcting
any inadvertent error at the earliest opportunity. Ministers
who knowingly mislead Parliament will be expected to
offer their resignation to the Prime Minister;

d. Ministers should be as open as possible with
Parliament and the public

1.8 Ministers must also comply at all times with the
requirements which Parliament itself has laid down in relation to
the accountability and responsibility of Ministers.

ANNEX A
The Seven Principles of Public Life
Selflessness...
Integrity...
Objectivity...
Accountability...
Openness
Holders of public office should act and take decisions in an open and
transparent manner...
Honesty...
Leadership...

www.gov.uk/government/publications/ministerial-code

I can't believe he has rewritten the code and posters are trying to defend him or pretend it doesn't matter. It damn well does. He's a disgrace. And it's dangerous.

When the electorate don't respect their government or politicians, it puts democracy under threat.

Democracy and society need faith, belief and respect to function. Boris et al are tearing it apart and have been doing so for months. Democracy and stability are precarious and he seems to be deliberately eroding both.

Posted this elsewhere but what the heck.

He's removed a section on the ethics of government, removed sections regarding not bullying staff or having a conflict of interest and refused to give Lord Geildt independence to instigate investigations.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-changes-ministerial-code-so-rule-breakers-can-avoid-sack-sz68nskxm

Clav Yes he has. There's outrage about it. But not from you of course. Predictable.

Roussette

He clearly hasn't removed the words 'integrity, transparency, honesty and accountability'.

If you care then EMAIL YOUR MP!

Please.

It takes five mins to google their email address and drop them a line.

We deserve leadership we can trust. It’s so important.

I don’t even care which party. I just want grown ups that don’t lie and act honestly and with integrity.

If you don’t care then you don’t understand the ramifications of having a government that lies and cheats and the risks that poses to society and democracy.

He has removed it from the foreward of the Ministerial Code.

Sorry to disappoint.

A new foreword to the code, penned by the prime minister, has removed previous references to the principles of “integrity, objectivity, accountability, transparency, honesty and leadership” which should guide ministers’ conduct.

In their place, the PM said ministers’ duty was to be “innovating, challenging assumptions and striving always to mobilise the power of the state for the benefit of the public”.

See? I can copy and paste too

Why did the Ministerial Code need any changes?

Clavinova

Its been widely reported that he has changed the wording. May be it’s just not uploaded yet?

Notonthestairs · Today 21:32
Why did the Ministerial Code need any changes?

So that he can stay in power. He’s changed so that he doesn’t need to resign and so that he can continue to act in dishonest ways and remain in power.

removed a section on having a conflict of interest

This section?

MINISTERS' PRIVATE INTERESTS
General
principle
7.1 Ministers must ensure that no conflict arises, or could
reasonably be perceived to arise, between their public duties
and their private interests, financial or otherwise.

Haven't got time to read the rest.

Are you suggesting that it hasn't changed at all?

I'll ask again why did the Code need changing?

He’s changed so that he doesn’t need to resign

Robert Peston is having a bad week - second correction in two days;

Robert Peston
@ Peston
15m
I got something stupidly WRONG.
Willingly lying to parliament is still an offence where resignation is expected. That paragraph in the code has not been changed.

There's 'misleading' and there's 'lying'. Let's see shall we? He's slippery and changes the rules to suit.

To chip away at ethics and morality.

It may be expected, but unless it's an automatic rule ?

and their is the word play of for example, I can categorically state I was not in the party at 18:00 and that could be true if they were there instead at 18:01. Etc

In the week of the SG report to change the code such that he is effectively judge and jury of ministers’ conduct - tone deaf!

My photos time stamp shows that DH and I were sitting in our back garden with DS and his GF, all in coats, hats and blankets, huddled round the patio heater !

It is so sad to hear of all the posters who have had such awful personal tragedies or went through incredibly difficult situations at this time

You seem to be under the impression that Partygate is rumbling on because the opposition is pushing for it, as opposed to the public at large.

A quick glance at the various polls published would rather suggest it was the opposite. It's the public at large who won't let this drop or for Boris to "move on" and more likely that Labour are simply running with it.

It's time for 'decent' members of the Tory party to rediscover their principles. They're experts at quiet coups and deposing leaders.
As Rory Stewart put it, they've been too focused on saving Boris and letting him float about as though it's Berlusconi's Italy.
Resignations and letters of no confidence are starting to float in. I think the 'Party' is starting to realise, they have a stark choice between trying to save the party or saving Boris.

I agree that people are still very angry at this. Too many people suffered during this time, to just dismiss it as another political scandal.

This

It's time for 'decent' members of the Tory party to rediscover their principles. They're experts at quiet coups and deposing leaders

Agreed. They can be silent but deadly. Bit like a fart really.

Who knows what's going on behind the scenes. Letters are slowly but surely creeping in.
I want BJ to stay whilst he slowly but surely drags his party down with him. I do worry about the damage he is doing though, whilst that happens. Then at the GE for many Ministers to lose their seat. BJ, Raab, John Redwood, Ian DuncanSmith, Alok Sharma. Their majorities are small.

Duncan Smith only about 1,000, BJ and Redwood about 7,000, Raab under 3,000.