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What were you doing on November 13th 2020

666 replies

TeaAndChoccie · 23/05/2022 22:34

while the PM was partying.....?

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MrsJBaptiste · 24/05/2022 07:45

I can't remember and honestly do not care.

Can't we just move on and forget about all this? It was 18 months ago and there are far more important things going on in the world than to still be banging on about Downing Street parties FFS.

Dashdotdotdash · 24/05/2022 07:45

Aaaabbbcccc · 24/05/2022 01:09

Probably because they were working around the clock to get us out of this. When I first heard about it, it didn’t surprise me in the slightest. Ill-judged, yes, but I don’t think it means that every single thing caused by Covid should be laid at their door. I don’t understand this simplistic logic

Interesting, isn't it, that we're not hearing about other government leaders and the people working with them behaving like this. Weren't they working around the clock?

Roussette · 24/05/2022 07:49

Can't we just move on and forget about all this?

Yeah.... let's just move on and forget that our Prime Minister lies to the house, and in doing so is being investigated by the Commons Privileges Committee for misleading Parliament
nothing to see here Hmm

Dashdotdotdash · 24/05/2022 07:49

Aaaabbbcccc · 24/05/2022 02:57

@ZenNudist no we had to comply because if we didn’t more would have died. Their parties probably had zero impact on infections or close to it. It is bizarre how people would get so upset about the apparent randomness of restrictions - it is that hard to understand that it was just about reducing numbers?

"Probably" is doing an awful lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Yet covid was merrily spreading through no. 10 and into the families of people working there.

hamstersarse · 24/05/2022 07:50

It was always clear Boris wasn’t really behind these ridiculous rules, which have been shown to have made absolutely no difference,

people just seem angry that they fell for the ‘follow the science’ bullshit and look back and wonder why on Earth they allowed themselves to be so brainwashed. But those rules are what people were demanding from Boris, look back at threads at the time, almost everyone wanted these stupid rules. If you genuinely stand by those rules and still think they were right, you wouldn’t be angry at these ‘parties’ you’d just be thankful you followed them and ‘saved lives’

WoodstockJ · 24/05/2022 07:51

Having a very non-eventful birthday! No parties for me.
i absolutely care what the PM has been up to! He should lead by example.

BadAtMaths2 · 24/05/2022 07:53

@hamstersarse he lied to parliament, not just about this, it gets unsustainable.

Dashdotdotdash · 24/05/2022 07:54

Aaaabbbcccc · 24/05/2022 02:59

And a lot of people who are not Tory voters don’t care. For many people this is just a Westminster side show., there are much more important things going on for a lot of people now that need more immediate attention that political point scoring. What happened, happened. We can all exercise our vote.

Can you not see the point that if, say, a new and much more serious form of covid evolved tomorrow for which current vaccines were ineffective, this government would find it incredibly difficult to stop it spreading, directly as a result of this behaviour? How willing would people be to obey basic restrictions knowing that the those imposing them were almost certainly ignoring them and lying about it? Johnson already has blood on his hands as a result of his incompetent handling of the pandemic, and this has the potential to make that much worse.

SueSaid · 24/05/2022 07:56

'he lied to parliament, not just about this'

🥱

They were at work. If they knew anyone would get fines they would have forbidden photos, it would have been secret.

Schulte · 24/05/2022 07:57

I can’t believe all the posters making excuses for Boris.

Whether you agreed with the rules or not, his behaviour has been beyond insulting to the rest of the nation.

Can you really not see that?

SueSaid · 24/05/2022 07:59

'have you seen how many bottles of alcohol there are on the table in that photo'

Yes politicians do need to review their policy for booze at work. There shouldn't have been any here, there shouldn't have been any in Durham. Judge them all consistently please even if itv don't.

Harrysutton · 24/05/2022 08:02

Tier 3 and prepping for DDs birthday the day after. Another cancelled birthday for her so no party as we followed the rules. What fools we were.

yellowsuninthesky · 24/05/2022 08:02

In England, the schools were open. So I am pretty sure the kids were having "social gatherings" between lessons, I remember my son's sixth form college sent a letter home to parents telling us to tell our kids to stay in very small groups outside college to avoid complaints from local residents that they were breaking the rules. That was while we were in that mini-lockdown.

Dashdotdotdash · 24/05/2022 08:02

The Prime Minister and his cronies are hypocrites, but actually these people were together for work anyway so other than hypocrisy, it made no material difference to the situation.

This is a myth. Downing Street is a hell of a big office with several departments. In the normal course of things in a big enterprise people in different departments can go for weeks without seeing each other. If you were in a company that complied with the rules then the reality was that the only people you ever saw at work were your immediate colleagues, because there were one way systems, places like canteens were closed, and meetings were online. And you certainly didn't get to bring your interior decorator Into work dos.

Roussette · 24/05/2022 08:04

They were at work. If they knew anyone would get fines they would have forbidden photos, it would have been secret

Good one Janiie! You should've given that paltry excuse to Grant Shapps this morning, he's doing the rounds 😂
I'll give you top marks for inventiveness.
No idea, though, how you stop anyone taking photos!

artisanbread · 24/05/2022 08:05

I was teaching my primary class online again as we had another big Covid outbreak and had to close the school. Several staff members at the time were down with it. My TA was in hospital with Covid.

Snowiscold · 24/05/2022 08:06

hamstersarse · 24/05/2022 07:50

It was always clear Boris wasn’t really behind these ridiculous rules, which have been shown to have made absolutely no difference,

people just seem angry that they fell for the ‘follow the science’ bullshit and look back and wonder why on Earth they allowed themselves to be so brainwashed. But those rules are what people were demanding from Boris, look back at threads at the time, almost everyone wanted these stupid rules. If you genuinely stand by those rules and still think they were right, you wouldn’t be angry at these ‘parties’ you’d just be thankful you followed them and ‘saved lives’

Your post makes no sense. People are angry because of the arrogance and lies BJ has told them - because they believed/followed the rules in difficult circumstances. BJ et al thought themselves above the rules (that they implemented). People aren’t pleased because they themselves obeyed the rules and saved lives.

Sleepyquest · 24/05/2022 08:08

Celebrating my baby's first birthday...alone! No family or friends 😢

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 24/05/2022 08:08

I was living completely alone: I had been caught in our second home when London went into whatever Tier it was in, so stayed where I was and saw my DH and DC over FaceTime for a month until things changed and we could be together again.

I knew no one would know if I returned home or they came to me, but it was against the rules so we didn’t. I have never been on my own for so long.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/05/2022 08:09

Hbh17 · 23/05/2022 22:47

I have no idea, because it's not important, and I don't know anybody who cares in the slightest what the PM may have been doing. Such a tedious subject.....

Guessing you weren't kept from a dying loved one then?
Guessing you didn't have to organise a funeral with only 10 people?
That's why it's important!

Dashdotdotdash · 24/05/2022 08:09

hamstersarse · 23/05/2022 23:54

I just hope none of you will willingly and meakly accept a government telling you what you can and can’t do to such an extent ever again.

You can make your own risk assessments, you don’t need Boris to tell you when you can see your family, you are not toddlers.

Leaders across the world have had their own version of this hypocrisy, it’s not just Boris

The moral of this story is don’t be owned so easily by a government. They don’t own you

And yet you only have to look at the stats to see that lockdown largely achieved its goals. What do you imagine would have happened without it? Do you know better than epidemiologists?

LoopyLube · 24/05/2022 08:11

I was in hospital feeling very sorry for myself because I wasn't allowed any visitors.

FloweryBodySpray · 24/05/2022 08:11

In isolation prepapring my DD for an operation the following week

GrendelsGrandma · 24/05/2022 08:12

I cannot understand how Boris Johnson is still in place or how people can defend him. He has no principles and no honour. He thinks he can get away with anything. He pissed all over his own rules then lied about it to the house.

FangsForTheMemory · 24/05/2022 08:13

I had moved into my new house two days previously and the furniture arrived out of storage that day and the whole situation was scary as we were in lockdown again and there had been a chance I would be sleeping on the bare boards for a couple of months.