What were you doing on November 13th 2020

[TeaAndChoccie]

while the PM was partying.....?

Fortunately we have a police force who have actually seen the evidence and footage and have issued fines to civil servants

Funny that.... you missed out about the fine to our Prime Minister and our Chancellor. How predictable. It's all those naughty civil servants and nothing to do with the Prime Minister (despite the fact he was at 7 of these boozy bashes and rubber stamped them going ahead). Is he really that weak that he couldn't have put a stop to the partying?

As for the anonymous people on Panorama. Do you really really think, at this stage, they would give out their full names? They probably are still in employment, they have been fined but the person who poured them a drink and encouraged them to be there (BJ) hasn't. Their life would be extremely difficult being a whistleblower.

Oh Janiie you do like to pick up on posts and then manipulate and twist them. It's becoming your MO.

Durham beer beer beer as you well know is me saying to you what a ridiculous comparison and you are taking the line of trying to compare the two by banging on about Durham beer. You twist away ... we see it.

You say 'they went to work'. Was 4pm WTF (Wine Time Fridays) work? Was it???

The posters just above you were literally talking about a DH who had to face cancer treatment alone because of restrictions, and a beloved father who had to die alone in a care home, and nobody could even go to the funeral. It's great you don't know of anyone who cares, but countless do, and it's nice to be respectful of them, because they and their loved ones suffered horribly. It's a kick in the gut to so many of us.

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You have heard of emails, haven't you, @ Clavinova?

Yes - of course - but no one else has even remotely suggested that Boris Johnson sent an email to instigate the gathering on 13th November - the Mirror claim he passed by the press office on his way up to his flat.

Not according to, um, Adam Wagner

Your Guardian link (8 May) only discusses the law, not the guidance for pre-election campaigning - I made the clear distinction in my post; "Whether they broke the law as well remains to be seen."

I have checked back on Adam Wagner's Twitter feed - May 4:

I have been sent this guidance about campaigning in the 2021 May elections. It is clear that "You should not meet with other campaigners indoors". There is no reference to guidance in the relevant law at the time which required a meeting to be "reasonably necessary" for work...

www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-governments-approach-to-elections-and-referendums-during-covid-19

...There is a case that the Labour meeting breached the guidance, which is very clear and unambiguous. My view remains that it is very unlikely that the meeting breached the law given the Labour Party's reasoning.

Adam Wagner
@ AdamWagner1

NB Part of Keir Starmer's reasoning was that there were no restaurants or pubs open in Durham serving food that evening - but many were open with outside seating - Starmer himself ate at a restaurant with outside seating the evening before he arrived in Durham - with two Labour MPs in Hull. Adam Wagner gave an interview with Kay Burley during which he repeated Starmer's claim that no restaurants or pubs were open but I see that Wagner has amended this to "food was ordered because it was the evening" in your link. I haven't noticed Keir Starmer correct his statement about restaurants and pubs though.

Omg I've just seen the photos of his birthdays 'party'! Packets of sarnies, OJ and a few folk stood round a table! It's just debauchery isn't it. I'm discusted.

I suggest you read the whole of the SG report. And maybe comment then. If you want a link, I have it.

It's very damning.

A reminder that Janii that the law said gatherings of more than 2 indoors and more than 6 outdoors was illegal.

I was giving birth to my first child, my family didn’t meet her until she was 4 months because we were playing by the rules (no travel etc).

'A reminder that Janii that the law said gatherings of more than 2 indoors and more than 6 outdoors was illegal.'

They were having sarnies at work! I feel sorry for anyone who thinks those photos constitute a party.

The report is not 'damning' at all. It is everything we already know. Funny how Cumming's comments warning of the rulez are nowhere to be seen.

Those photos though. Jesus 🙄

It's not about what constitutes a party. The law prohibited meetings of more than 2 indoors unless it was reasonably necessary for work purposes. It wasn't necessary for work purposes.

But I'll grant Johnson behaved a lot worse on other occasions.

’Sarnies at work’! Are you for real? They got drunk and partied until 3am. According to the report.

Working NHS 7.30 am - 8pm.
Did three extra long days that week due to staff sickness.
No drinks in the staff room sadly.

Omg I've just seen the photos of his birthdays 'party'! Packets of sarnies, OJ and a few folk stood round a table! It's just debauchery isn't it. I'm discusted.

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Starting to think you must just be on the wind up now.

I was about to say the same @GoodJanetBadJanet

I really would urge anyone to read the report before commenting. It's very damming including the what's app messages. People throwing up, altercation, it's disgusting behaviour.

No doubt this happens in Westminster most of the time. The culture is rotten but there is no defence for any of this occurring during a pandemic when the rest of the country was shut down, people dying, public sector workers, nhs staff risking lives.

The report shows what total disregard the government have for their electorate - the public - me. But still the defenders think Bojo and Co are the best for the job? Do me a favour.

I guess anyone wondering why we still have this bunch of mendacious, self-serving venal cunts in charge need look no further than some of the comments here to find their answers.

Forget north vs south or rich vs poor, the biggest indicator now of how you're likely to vote is how fucking stupid you are.

Exactly….really depressing that people are still completely brainwashed and that their standards are so low!!

I was visiting my dad on my own in the hospice.
some people might not care what Boris was up to but I do. My dad would have loved to have been surrounded by family and friends one last time.

You have obviously not read it all. Don't pretend you have.
It is very damaging and no we didn't know it all. Perhaps don't focus on the birthday party but the other functions that BJ rubberstamped to go ahead?

Did you know about someone being sick after drinking too much? Or the piss being taken out of cleaning staff and anyone trying to curb the parties? Or the altercation (fight) between two people at a party?

p.s. Your spelling is going to shit, don't know why.

Spot on.

I really would urge anyone to read the report before commenting. It's very damming including the what's app messages. People throwing up, altercation, it's disgusting behaviour

^^ This.

BJ's Personal private secretary whatsapped boasting
'better that they don't focus on our drinks. I think we got away with it'

That is just ONE whatsapp. There's a lot like that.

I was in hospital, no visitors allowed.

'Your spelling is going to shit'

That's a bit harsh rousette. My spag isn't great I do apologise, I can't always find my reading specs.

I repeat the report isnt damning. Some pissed up civil servants took things too far, their line managers should have addressed it at the time.

BJ received an fpn for sarnies in the office. It is laughable.

Yep and arranging that the party goers would leave by the back door so they wouldn't be seen by anyone and told 'don't go waving bottles of wine around'.

"BJ received an fpn for sarnies in the office. It is laughable."

No. He received an FPN for an illegal gathering. Nothing to do with sandwiches.