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What were you doing on November 13th 2020

666 replies

TeaAndChoccie · 23/05/2022 22:34

while the PM was partying.....?

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vivainsomnia · 24/05/2022 08:46

Cancelling my 50th birthday party!

Roselilly36 · 24/05/2022 08:49

It’s sickening quite honestly, shows BoJo & Co, knew it was all a crock of you know what. The more things that are uncovered about the antics of the major political parties, vaccine deaths and injuries etc, the more cross I get. Mark Steyn is covering this topics extremely well on GBnews.

SueSaid · 24/05/2022 08:52

'It’s sickening quite honestly, shows BoJo & Co, knew it was all a crock of you know what.'

You think it was a crock of you know what to have restrictions in a pandemic to reduce social contact and reduce spread while allowing key workers to carry on going to work? Riiiiiight.

Mulhollandmagoo · 24/05/2022 08:54

itsnotmeitsu · 23/05/2022 23:09

But it's, "such a tedious subject". I was only allowed to visit my twin sister in intensive care because she was dying. She had a nurse and a trainee with her, in PPR. I was wearing an apron, mask, and face cover. I could swear she recognised my voice, but I'll never know. My last memory of my twin is her lying isolated in a room, and me not able to touch her, or give her comfort in any way. We'd shared our lives for over 60 years from birth, and I couldn't give her a last kiss. So crack on, those who make the rules for others whilst ignoring them for themselves. Just as long as we don't bore others with our grief.

This is so awful, I'm so sorry this happened to you @itsnotmeitsu 💐the sacrifices people made have been made a complete mockery of, which is exactly why people are so angry with the government for repeatedly breaking their own rules.

LEnferCestLesAutres · 24/05/2022 08:54

SueSaid · 24/05/2022 08:14

'Good one Janiie!'

Thankyou. You must keep reminding yourself they were at work. This wasn't 1am in a nightclub, they weren't visiting dying relatives when no one else was allowed, they weren't having pals round to their houses for parties, they weren't seeing relatives in care homes when no one else could. They were at work and he toasted someone leaving. Unclench.

Why were other people at the so-called "work event" fined, Janiie? Care to explain?

PacificWalrus · 24/05/2022 08:55

I was out for dinner with friends and then drinks. I didn't live in the UK though.

Roussette · 24/05/2022 08:56

Politicians need to have rules regarding booze at work without a doubt. They were at work though, sorry

No need to be sorry because it's untrue, and the Met agree with me, not you! If so (which we know not to be true) why were people fined? Ahhhh yes Johnson's ten minute rule lol

There are more photos coming out, looking forward to your defence of them, it does provide me with great amusement at the hoops jumped through to make it all OK!

There are facts. Boris lied. He lied to the House. He is being investigated by the Privileges Committee for misleading parliament. There are 126 FPN's. More than any other workplace.

Brillig · 24/05/2022 08:58

I was debating with myself whether to post on this thread because I see the Johnson defenders are on patrol.

However. On 13th November 2020 I was in deep grief for my darling mum, who’d died a month earlier. She’d been in hospital and we weren’t allowed to visit her at all because the hospital was strictly enforcing covid restrictions. We did get to be with her at the very end but the whole time was a nightmare worse than I could ever have imagined. I’m still traumatised by it, and I don’t say that lightly. I will never forget, or get over, that her life ended in that way.

Then, after her (very small) funeral, we weren’t allowed to go and be together as a family afterwards because at that point several different households weren’t permitted to gather indoors together.

I expect I’ll be told I was a credulous fool for allowing myself to be hoodwinked, or some such smug bollocks, but I won't be listening to any of that so don’t bother.

In the words of a pp, Johnson has no principles and no honour. He thinks he can get away with anything. He pissed all over his own rules then lied about it to the house. He is laughing at the rest of us, the people who followed the laws he made.

Jalepenojello · 24/05/2022 08:58

I was at home with my children in a regional lockdown. I massively struggled during lockdown but I still believe they were needed. Whatever Boris was up to that day doesn’t change anything for me. I still think he’s an awful person.

Monkeybutt1 · 24/05/2022 09:00

SueSaid · 24/05/2022 08:14

'Good one Janiie!'

Thankyou. You must keep reminding yourself they were at work. This wasn't 1am in a nightclub, they weren't visiting dying relatives when no one else was allowed, they weren't having pals round to their houses for parties, they weren't seeing relatives in care homes when no one else could. They were at work and he toasted someone leaving. Unclench.

You must remember his rules stated we all had to keep away from loved ones and stay at home. We were in tier 3 at the time and the law then was you are only to go to work if you absolutely had to. You could not stand close together and toast people who were leaving with alcohol. I am lucky I have not been impacted by COVID like so many have but Boris made the rules, Boris broke the rules and then Boris lied about breaking the rules. Its not just about the rule breaking now its the fact our leader who we are meant to be able to trust lied to us multiple times.

Roussette · 24/05/2022 09:01

@Brillig I really feel for you, your experience with your lovely Mum was not what it should've been. I'm so sorry Flowers

I am incensed by anyone trying to hint that we were stupid for following the rules and restrictions set by the Government. We were told at 5.30pm every day to protect granny, face, space and all that. We did this for the greater good. And even trying to say we were stupid to do so, makes me very very angry.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/05/2022 09:04

Brillig · 24/05/2022 08:58

I was debating with myself whether to post on this thread because I see the Johnson defenders are on patrol.

However. On 13th November 2020 I was in deep grief for my darling mum, who’d died a month earlier. She’d been in hospital and we weren’t allowed to visit her at all because the hospital was strictly enforcing covid restrictions. We did get to be with her at the very end but the whole time was a nightmare worse than I could ever have imagined. I’m still traumatised by it, and I don’t say that lightly. I will never forget, or get over, that her life ended in that way.

Then, after her (very small) funeral, we weren’t allowed to go and be together as a family afterwards because at that point several different households weren’t permitted to gather indoors together.

I expect I’ll be told I was a credulous fool for allowing myself to be hoodwinked, or some such smug bollocks, but I won't be listening to any of that so don’t bother.

In the words of a pp, Johnson has no principles and no honour. He thinks he can get away with anything. He pissed all over his own rules then lied about it to the house. He is laughing at the rest of us, the people who followed the laws he made.

This is exactly my experience. But I notice that you say we were allowed at the end. In our family we were only allowed one person even at the end. That person was me

RowanAlong · 24/05/2022 09:06

I’d just turned 40 and had not been able to have a party, and discovered my hair was falling out in patches, from lockdown stress.

Emmelina · 24/05/2022 09:07

Supervising a Brownie meet on Zoom. Good fun, but would’ve been a lot more fun in person!

OhmygodDont · 24/05/2022 09:08

Drunk as a skunk and full of take away. It was my birthday.

SueSaid · 24/05/2022 09:08

'Why were other people at the so-called "work event" fined, Janiie? Care to explain?'

Why were BJ and Sunak fined for birthday greetings and others weren’t?! Who knows but I'm guessing the police had some kind of criteria. Perhaps BJ did a toast and returned to work as emails etc would back up. Perhaps those fined had a 3hr gap in their diaries where there wasn't any evidence of work? I should be a detective really.

So in summary beer in Durham ok but wine in Downing Street absolutely not. Got it Grin

TheBirdintheCave · 24/05/2022 09:08

I was 39+1 and finishing up my handover work for when I started maternity leave at lunchtime on Monday.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/05/2022 09:10

Tryhard40 · 24/05/2022 08:14

I may have had people round - I've no idea - who cares?

Not everyone blindly "followed the rules". Some of us thought for ourselves and used our critical thinking.

So that's where I went wrong!
I should have said to the care home manager you have to let me in I'm thinking for myself and using critical thinking

ChrisReasBathEggs · 24/05/2022 09:10

Why are people surprised by this lot? There are plenty of articles stating that cocaine traces have been found in most of the toilets in parliament - look it up. It has always been a massive gravy train for people who are in politics to feather their own nests.

You need to be asking yourself why this is a better prospect of being plastered all over the news than the economy tanking and people starving and using food banks. If your own government are happy for people to see this instead and the media who have propped up these arseholes are putting this out there too, they really are trying to distract you from something else - for instance doing the square root of fuck all about issues that are really going to impact people. They say they just want to 'get on with the job', but nobody is really stopping them are they? They just don't want to fucking do it.

rhowton · 24/05/2022 09:11

I was at my parents' house with around 30 other people ignoring the rules because it was my Grandad's wake. We all had the most amazing time and it is such a fond memory. My immediate family have never followed the ridiculous rules so apart from things we couldnt do eg eating out, going to the pub etc, we lived our life very normally, as we did from March 2020. In hindsight, I am bloody glad we did.

TokyoTen · 24/05/2022 09:12

It was a Friday so we had a takeaway. We went to see my parents on the Saturday as Dad wasn't well. He had cancer and liked to see us - yes different households and against "rules" but if the government thinks they can stop me seeing family when needed they can fuck off.

Superslide · 24/05/2022 09:14

NOT having my child's birthday party.

All of this is no surprise to me... it's always been one rule for them and one rule for the rest of us...

TulipsGarden · 24/05/2022 09:16

It was a Friday so I was off work with my then 1.5 year old son. I can see from my photos that we went to a nearby village for a walk, presumably because there was fuck-all else to do.

A week later I felt guilty for driving 15 miles to the coast for a birthday walk. It was absolutely fucking freezing, not really fun at all, and I would much, much rather have had a party.

It is abundantly clear that Boris Johnson et al. were partying because they had either all had Covid already and assumed they couldn't get it again, or because they all knew they'd get the good drugs (as Sajid Javid did recently) because of their positions. Not because Covid wasn't dangerous, as many here seem to claim.

Brillig · 24/05/2022 09:17

Itloggedmeoutagain My condolences to you Flowers

Because mum didn’t actually have Covid - though still totally inaccessible in hospital because of their no-visitors policy - by some miracle she was discharged and brought home. But she then died at home with my DSis and I by her side. That makes us among the 'lucky' ones.

megletthesecond · 24/05/2022 09:26

WFH, went for a run and reported some flytipping that day. Things our lazy PM has never done.

Of course lockdown did the job. We wouldn't have an NHS if the virus had run rampant. But I'm a lone parent so no social life, routine and isolation is a doddle for me these days.

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