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Naked children at tourist spot - diagram included

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Irishfarmer · 23/05/2022 16:57

Basically children playing/ swimming naked at a tourist waterfall. Strange or not?

Longer. So to me this didn't seem right. Yesterday I went to visit a very pretty waterfall - my first attempt at a MN diagram attached 😂 There is a car park then a walk of less than 1km up to the waterfall with a stream running down from the waterfall.

Got to a very pretty bridge and could see up to the waterfall. But couldn't take any pics or actually really look cause there were about 4 DC buck naked having a swim! It was raining and not that warm. But also just thought it was a really weird/ inappropriate place for DC to be swimming at all, 1 dad was with them, 2 mums were sitting (blocking a lot of the path) making flower chains/ pictures.

Went further up and there was another dad and a dc maybe 6ish on the surrounds of the plunge pool. Which was rock covered in green moss/ ferns. Walking back to the car there was 1 dc the far side of the bridge with no adult supervision dc looked maybe 4. Again lots of moss. Reasonably fast moving stream😑

IDK, I know kids like being naked and swimming but this wasn't the place was it?! The car park holds maybe 50ish cars and all spots were taken + 1 small bus load of Americans (one lady insisted on taking a pic of me and DH when we were taking a selfie which was nice!). It didn't seem busy but there had to be 100ish ppl milling around. Judging by the amount of signs in German/ French it must be a popular tourist spot.

Anyway:

YABU - Children can swim naked at tourist spots why wouldn't they
YANBU - It is weird

Naked children at tourist spot - diagram included
OP posts:
Msmbc · 23/05/2022 18:05

otterlybonkers · 23/05/2022 17:23

Nope, I am happy for kids to enjoy their bodies. I think the problem lies with sick and twisted men, as usual, and it is this that ought to change, not kids behaviour.

I hate how as a society we arrange everything around not tempting men, around avoiding their crimes. It's a fucking mess.

I also dislike how we are inadvertently teaching kids to hide their bodies or associate them with attack or shame. As a culture we are not moving forward.

Hear hear

ElenaSt · 23/05/2022 18:08

Christ on a bike! I'm always stripping off at beauty spots, but I do cover up if people are around. I usually go to remote places where the chances of seeing another person are slim or I go very early in the morning if it's a popular landmark.

I can see how you wanted photos of the waterfall but if you had come across them in their bathing suits they would have still been in the view of the waterfall so really the best thing is to avoid going to these places at popular times. i.e early in the morning.

CaliforniaDrumming · 23/05/2022 18:09

Had to click just to see the diagram:)It's great! I seem to have no opinion on the rest of it. I would not let my kids swim naked but don't care that much about other kids swimming naked.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 18:09

Age 2-7 perfectly okay - my dc would run around naked on the beach etc, some children won't keep clothes on. I am now picturing 4 very happy joyful kids having the best day ever happy in their skin. I think your photo ops come secondary if I am honest....would be extremely pleased to see dc doing the same.

SnowyPetals · 23/05/2022 18:09

Irishfarmer · 23/05/2022 17:18

I think the kids aged from about 2 to 7. It bothered me because I wanted to take pictures. But didn't want to take pictures (or have pics) of random naked children. I wanted to take pictures of the pretty bridge/ waterfall.

People enjoying the experience in the moment is more important than taking pictures in my opinion. Sounds like everyone there except you was having a lovely day out. I also don't think we should live our lives assuming that pedophiles are waiting on every corner.

Veol · 23/05/2022 18:09

YABVU for thinking that children shouldn’t enjoy a waterfall in real life, and experience the moment, so that some people who want to take pictures of it to look at on their phones, don’t have to feel awkward.

tillytoodles1 · 23/05/2022 18:10

When we're in Majorca a few years ago, loads of non-British children were by the pool totally naked.

However, we went to the US when my daughter was nine and she had to cover her top half, even though she was totally flat chested.

Different strokes for different folks.

Thatswhyimacat · 23/05/2022 18:13

OP, on Mumsnet it's considered unacceptable and shallow to ever want a picture of anything, FYI. I'm sure lots have been along to snipe at you about Instagram or some other modern day horror. In reality, most people would want to take a picture of a beauty spot they visited and would feel uncomfortable if naked children were in the way.

muddyford · 23/05/2022 18:13

I was at very busy motorway services yesterday. A couple drew up in their car, got their little daughter out, then a potty. She used it and Dad walked to the verge and flung the contents away (gross). Mum played with her 'phone. Daughter (about 2 perhaps) stood with her trousers and pants round her ankles until Dad got back, and pulling her top up like small kids do.

Blueblisters · 23/05/2022 18:16

YANBU. I don’t want anyone to see my kids naked and in turn I don’t want to see anyone else’s kids naked. It’s not appropriate or necessary. And extraordinarily naive, unless you don’t mind your child’s picture potentially being shared online with paedophilia salivating over it.

Irishfarmer · 23/05/2022 18:18

@Frogslegsbigfeet thank you finally some one gets it. Everything in the universe revolves around me and my needs/ wants.

@FlissyPaps I'm not giving out that other ppl (adults or kids) get in my pics from time to time of course they do. It was just that there was no way to really take pics/ watch the waterfall which is why everyone would stop there, without staring at them.

@ErinAoife I didn't say because I'm not sure but I don't think you are allowed to swim in the waterfall.

OP posts:
Bearfrills · 23/05/2022 18:19

ErinAoife · 23/05/2022 18:01

Lately I have read more about women sexualy abused children in newspaper so I will not generalise that it is more men that are pervert.

Statistically, it's more likely to be men.

starlingdarling · 23/05/2022 18:19

YANBU. If parents are happy for their kids to run around naked that's fine.. in private. I don't want to see their naked children. They can have fun without taking their clothes off. I can't enjoy an experience if their clothes are off. Strange that some people think you're the one being entitled.

SueSaid · 23/05/2022 18:20

Older dc and adults don't go naked in public, because they protect their own privacy. Young dc aren't able to do this so rely on responsible parents to do it for them, to not do this is neglectful imo.

Young dc have a right to privacy, there is no need for nakedness in public places. A swimming costume or pair of knickers is not in the least restrictive. Yanbu op.

Blueblisters · 23/05/2022 18:22

ErinAoife if you read those stories about women sexually abusing children more closely, more often than not those women are men.

Blueblisters · 23/05/2022 18:23

SueSaid · 23/05/2022 18:20

Older dc and adults don't go naked in public, because they protect their own privacy. Young dc aren't able to do this so rely on responsible parents to do it for them, to not do this is neglectful imo.

Young dc have a right to privacy, there is no need for nakedness in public places. A swimming costume or pair of knickers is not in the least restrictive. Yanbu op.

Completely agree with this. Entirely possible to run around quite happily in pants or swimsuit absolutely no need for kids to strip off. And quite frankly I don’t want to see someone else’s genitals in a public place, child or adult!

Justkeeppedaling · 23/05/2022 18:28

10/10 for the diagram OP. Or even 11/10. Jolly well done.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 23/05/2022 18:29

I don't think you are allowed to swim in the waterfall.

Says who?

Just you then?

And you don't think young children should be allowed to run around naked in a waterfall? In the middle of nowhere?

What century/country do you live in?

Thatswhyimacat · 23/05/2022 18:32

Where do you draw the line at tourist spots though? Is it always OK if it's water but nowhere else? If I go to the Acropolis should I expect kids to be naked because it's hot? Or do we accept that actually kid's immediate comfort does not come above every other consideration?

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2022 18:32

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 18:09

Age 2-7 perfectly okay - my dc would run around naked on the beach etc, some children won't keep clothes on. I am now picturing 4 very happy joyful kids having the best day ever happy in their skin. I think your photo ops come secondary if I am honest....would be extremely pleased to see dc doing the same.

This. What a repressed nation we are.

Sunnytwobridges · 23/05/2022 18:33

Divebar2021 · 23/05/2022 17:27

I’m not at all surprised some people have a problem with this… probably the same people who wear pants and pyjamas to bed.

This is such a stupid comment. I don't really have an issue with this and I wear pajamas to bed.

I grew up in Germany and wherever we went where there was water there was always naked children running around. I don't think I saw them at a waterfall but they were always at the pool and beaches either naked or without tops (girls).

roolz · 23/05/2022 18:34

Er you don't need to be naked to enjoy things as a child? It's just unnecessary. At the pool the other week, parents were stripping their children at the poolside. Use a changing room or put the costume under their clothes, I don't get it.

I don't get putting your child in that position. No problem with any kind of swimsuit, no child is missing out on anything because their parents put pants on them.

roolz · 23/05/2022 18:36

Completely agree with this. Entirely possible to run around quite happily in pants or swimsuit absolutely no need for kids to strip off. And quite frankly I don’t want to see someone else’s genitals in a public place, child or adult!

Right- I don't get the need.

Branleuse · 23/05/2022 18:38

I wouldnt care about naked children, as long as they were supervised around the water.
Nakedness has got nothing to do with sexual abuse

Silverswirl · 23/05/2022 18:38

muddyford · 23/05/2022 18:13

I was at very busy motorway services yesterday. A couple drew up in their car, got their little daughter out, then a potty. She used it and Dad walked to the verge and flung the contents away (gross). Mum played with her 'phone. Daughter (about 2 perhaps) stood with her trousers and pants round her ankles until Dad got back, and pulling her top up like small kids do.

What on earth is wrong with that? Could have tipped the pop into bushes I guess but it could have easily have been a wee

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