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Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?

988 replies

ENoeuf · 22/05/2022 18:39

Just in case we run out on part 3

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adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 21:05

@Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious I am so sorry about that. Horrendous for you.

This is what is making people so invested in this. She is doing such a diservice to others.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:08

I threw a lamp at my abuser, after 8 years or his smirking, gaslighting crap. He made me mentally unstable, I lost myself and I was angry because he did what he did and my feeling were irrelevant. So, tell me I was an abuser

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 21:09

@TiddyTidTwo

I was answering this

I just don't get AHs supporters not even giving an inch to say she might have lied.

I think maybe you are referring to people outside this thread. Just as I don't equate you or others with the Depp fans posting how stupid people are and how poor innocent Jonny is such an Angel.

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TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:09

On paper, like the JD case I was an abuser too. Load of CRAP.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:11

Having been through similar, I'd have punched her fucking lights out.

Guess what? HE DIDNT

Boulshired · 25/05/2022 21:13

I think stopping him talking makes them look more guilty.

Midlifemusings · 25/05/2022 21:14

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 21:00

I think most of us on this thread are open to this? I'm not a supporter of her particularly and only realised she was in Acquaman through the trials, I'm not a Depp fan either.
What I find hard is to accept that someone would outright lie about all of this. I find it hard to believe JD is not abusive or frightening to live with at times. I've said the Op Ed was a bad idea.
I just haven't taken up the AH is a witch position that's currently on social media.
I'm wary of paid employees being trusted as truth tellers. I'm not convinced by the recent witnesses just wanting to 'do the right thing'.
I'm finding it easy to dislike Depp based on what has been proved - the misogyny and the substance abuse.
I'm finding it harder to disbelieve AH in entirety.

You aren't accepting he is dislikeable or has substance use issues or anger issues or is misogynistic. You are accepting that he repeatedly raped and beat her causing her to live in fear for her life.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:15

Ooh back on. Grandad metadata is up against rotten bum

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 21:17

midlife no, I said I'm finding it hard to accept she lying about everything. That's not the same as accepting he beat and raped her repeatedly.

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minou123 · 25/05/2022 21:17

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:15

Ooh back on. Grandad metadata is up against rotten bum

This isn't Rottenborn. This is a new AH lawyer

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:19

No min rottenborn is her lawyer from day one. They're upping their game as their client is a liar

Curlykimbo · 25/05/2022 21:19

I am 4.

Amber was clearly setting up photo ops to reveal bruises to the press conspiring to make herself look like a victim and he, a violent abuser. I think she and her friends were scheming early on and were planning to set him up.

Depp’s messages sounded awful though. I cringed. I would die if my old text messages were read out in court. Horrible but I think many of us are guilty of sending silly, shitty private text messages to trusted friends.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:20

Forgive me this might not be RB. No matter though.

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 21:20

I agree she was setting up ops either directly or indirectly. I know lots do that but usually not about such serious matters.

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minou123 · 25/05/2022 21:23

It was really daft of this lawyer to say he can't remember his own question.

It made him look stupid at best, or at worst purposely trying to disrupt the trial, which is a big no no.

minou123 · 25/05/2022 21:24

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:20

Forgive me this might not be RB. No matter though.

No worries 😁i think RB is sat next to AH

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 25/05/2022 21:24

adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 21:05

@Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious I am so sorry about that. Horrendous for you.

This is what is making people so invested in this. She is doing such a diservice to others.

Thank you, that's the reason I'm interested. She's made it even harder for female DV victims to be believed. The only upside is hopefully people are believing men can also be victims.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:25

Grandad metadata isn't taking no shit 😂

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 21:26

Trying to force a yes no is worse than saying is there any way to tell?

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Legrandsophie · 25/05/2022 21:27

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 21:17

midlife no, I said I'm finding it hard to accept she lying about everything. That's not the same as accepting he beat and raped her repeatedly.

Even when almost everything she has said has been discredited now? She has been caught flagrantly lying over and over. The Australia tape alone shows that she is the kind of person to make up a violent rape, which in my book makes her a total psychopaths would is probably capable of anything.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:27

Here we go....grandad is now going to expose

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 21:30

NEW THREAD NEEDED SOON I THINK (948)

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TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 21:30

Yup. Metadata can't be proved. She edited

foxlover47 · 25/05/2022 21:32

Grandad metadata is brilliant ... trying to discredit his work due to not having certain degrees was embarrassing and he remained respectful throughout that grilling

ObjectionHearsay · 25/05/2022 21:32

What a line to end on "none of the exhibits presented in this case can be verified"

What a ear worm to leave that on.