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Just shouted at partner's client from hell

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Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:26

Name changed for this, as my partner knows my usual posting name. Sorry, this is a massive post.

My partner runs a company in an area of the construction industry. The work is usually for high-end new builds, usually on sites with professional project managers supervising. However, he was persuaded by one of his friends to quote for a local renovation project. He was quite pleased when the clients phoned and told him he hadn't got the job because he was so expensive (he's not). They later came back to him, unapologetic, and asked him to do the work. He initially said no, but he was cajoled back into the project by his friend.

It's been a nightmare. The project has been very poorly run and the clients have changed their minds about everything time and again. He is used to a certain degree of this, and can normally take the pressure, but they've got a particularly emotive, distrustful attitude that drives him mad. He's off-loaded much more than normal onto me. He's also fallen out with the friend who got him involved in the project and that's brought him down. Every bill is queried, with the implication that he is ripping them off. Every solution and product he recommends is questioned and queried and other, inappropriate, options suggested.

The project has finally limped to an end. Two months ago my partner took over the last, hard-to-get-hold-of component which will allow them to control the heating, lighting and ventilation remotely. The wall where they wanted the control panel and a one of the sensors still hadn't been plastered (their last plasterer walked out on them) so he left the two unfitted components in their boxes with the client. When they called him back after the plastering had been done, the parts couldn't be found. They accused him of taking the parts away with him. He didn't. None of the team ever remove paid-for components from a secure site. My partner says he gave them the boxes and they put them on a windowsill. The client denies this. They want him to pay for replacements. £600. My partner said no. They've phoned him several times, whinging and moaning and he has said stood firm and sent them an email telling them to order and pay for replacements and that until they confirm they've done this, he won't be answering their calls.

The wife just turned up on our doorstep, wanting to speak to him. He isn't here and I told her this. She then started on the 'We need to come to an agreement on this, we don't see why we should have to pay twice for parts your partner lost. He needs to replace them.'

At which point I exploded. I told her that he hadn't lost them, they had. That the job has been a nightmare but he's continued because he's a professional with a first class reputation. That their delays and unreasonable demands and the hundreds of hours of time they've spent on the phone mean that he's already lost money on this job and won't be laying out a penny more. She stood there and said 'It's been very hard for us' and I heard myself yelling 'I don't care! Go away, buy the components yourselves and he'll finish the job for you and then we can have nothing ever to do with each other again.' She argued for a while and I told her I had nothing more to say and I was going to shut the door on her.

After she'd gone I called my partner expecting him to say thank you and to have a laugh about it. Instead he said he should have just bought the replacement components and said nothing to me about it. It might have cost him £700 but at least it wouldn't have ended up with me shouting at her.

I now feel nearly as angry with him as I do with her. Practically every day for the last year I've had to listen to him complaining about her or her husband. They've phoned in the evenings and at weekends. He's had innumerable sleepless nights. He nearly lost one of his employees, who was so upset by the way he was treated by these people that he wanted to leave in order not to have to go back to the property.

AIBU?

OP posts:
KTheGrey · 20/05/2022 21:14

No YANBU. The nightmare client's wife harassed you at home. She made it your business when she turned up on your doorstep. They need to take some responsibility and your husband should be glad you said the unsayable, seeing he's lacking the assertiveness to do it.

PassThePringles · 20/05/2022 21:50

She caught you off guard when she turned up at the house. It's all good pp saying you should have said this or that but the client put you on the spot. It's easier to keep your composure when you're expecting chaos. I doubt your dh or you'll get a reputation as a wife who meddles in his business and shouts at customers, or words to that effect from pp 🙄 she came unexpectedly into your home environment.. You're bound to feel protective of dh. It is what it is now, nothing can change it. She brought the argument to you though, you didn't go looking for it. You were caught off guard, probably wasn't the best reaction in hindsight but we're all human. As a side note, I think it's unusual to query every little thing, it shows a lack of trust in your builder imo. I have a friend who is a pita for always questioning every tiny thing when she needs work done. If you have someone reputable, they know what they're doing, in general, just leave them be.

LeaveIt · 20/05/2022 21:54

LynneBenfield · 20/05/2022 19:24

Received pronounciation

aka ‘talking like the queen’ or wartime radio announcers.

www.bl.uk/british-accents-and-dialects/articles/received-pronunciation

@LynneBenfield thank you.

WibblyWobblyJane · 20/05/2022 22:02

KTheGrey · 20/05/2022 21:14

No YANBU. The nightmare client's wife harassed you at home. She made it your business when she turned up on your doorstep. They need to take some responsibility and your husband should be glad you said the unsayable, seeing he's lacking the assertiveness to do it.

I think you may have mistaken the OP’s question for an actual question. She already “knows” she’s not unreasonable. She’s “RP and articulate”, you know, and anyone that thinks she might have handled it a better way is wrong.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 22:06

WibblyWobblyJane · 20/05/2022 22:02

I think you may have mistaken the OP’s question for an actual question. She already “knows” she’s not unreasonable. She’s “RP and articulate”, you know, and anyone that thinks she might have handled it a better way is wrong.

Her poor, poor husband.

Longdistance · 20/05/2022 22:08

Go knock on her door. Tell her to never ever come to your home again or you’ll turn up at hers. Works both ways, fucking idiot!

Johnnysgirl · 20/05/2022 22:11

She’s “RP and articulate”, you know
And the RP accent could easily have been deduced from the written op, as she'd helpfully left "clues" 😂

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 20/05/2022 22:15

Poor husband my arse 🤣

Irl most people would not like someone turning on the doorstep harassing them.

Anyway this is MN the majority of posters saying yabu wouldn't have answered the door in the first place of most of the unexpected visitors threads are true

MargotMoon · 20/05/2022 22:30

Fuck that, she turned up on your doorstep and when you said he wasn't there she carried on at you? You had every right to have your say

WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 20/05/2022 22:53

I don't think you were wrong OP its not like you sought her out, she came to your home and after being told your DH wasn't there then dragged you into it all. I wouldn't put up with that either I would have told her to never come to my home again then shut the door in her face. She clearly wanted an argument and thats what she got hopefully she'll learn for next time but I doubt it

fUNNYfACE36 · 20/05/2022 23:33

You keep banging on about tyhe client coming to 'your house' , but how did the client know your address unless he also uses it as a business address or the registered office?

ChazzaGirl · 20/05/2022 23:46

fUNNYfACE36 · 20/05/2022 23:33

You keep banging on about tyhe client coming to 'your house' , but how did the client know your address unless he also uses it as a business address or the registered office?

Try reading the full thread. Or at least just the OP’s comments, then you’ll know.

ReadtheReviews · 20/05/2022 23:54

She brought it to your house, that puts it outside the bounds of professional relationship anyway.

IDreamOfTheMoors · 21/05/2022 00:59

She came to your door, and interrupted your life and your private time and engaged you in your husband’s business.
Have I got that straight?

YABU? I don’t think so.

Well done. I really can’t blame you for losing your temper, whether it’s the cf neighbours or your husband’s cf clients.
Anyone who abuses my good nature would, I’m afraid, get a snootful too. We all have our boiling point. And coming to your home is stepping way over the line.

Why is it the customer is always right when clearly they are wrong in so many instances?

Lanareyrey · 21/05/2022 01:21

I probably would have shouted at her too. Some people really are disgusting and need to be put in their place and your husband wasn’t going to be the one to do it.

ThePoorWeeDonkey · 21/05/2022 01:39

Yikes. You were very unreasonable. It's his job. You should not have got involved.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 21/05/2022 01:47

Lanareyrey · 21/05/2022 01:21

I probably would have shouted at her too. Some people really are disgusting and need to be put in their place and your husband wasn’t going to be the one to do it.

They should, yes, and hopefully he’s done it over drinks tonight.

WibblyWobblyJane · 21/05/2022 02:32

Johnnysgirl · 20/05/2022 22:11

She’s “RP and articulate”, you know
And the RP accent could easily have been deduced from the written op, as she'd helpfully left "clues" 😂

I, for one, am very grateful so told us outright in case we missed her clues.

Mintyt · 21/05/2022 05:16

Wife of a builder here, High end, I would have told her some home truths but not shouted, but I hear you, customers seem to think they can call or text at any time re the build, then on pay on time. I hope he stands his ground

Intrigueddotcom · 21/05/2022 06:36

It’s the retelling of the story from exploded/yelling
to speaking firmly

nezt the op will be telling us that she invited the woman in for tea and cake after the woman threw acid in her face.

I wonder if she’s also talking BS retold the story to her partner? Either way, he will soon know the truth when he next communicates with HIS client.

As an aside, I know he’s the boss of more than 30 employees, highlighting regarded and 25 years experience, but perhaps he could do with doing on a course re how to manage a difficult clients / partners?

mnnewbie111 · 21/05/2022 06:41

If someone comes to your door then you've every right to get involved. It's not his business premises and they're crossing a line by coming to a personal address. She sounds like an Intrusive bitch

Moodycow78 · 21/05/2022 06:50

I don't think you were unreasonable hon, SHE came to YOUR doorstep and deserves what she got. For everyone calling OP out, how often do clients from your work turn up at your home hassling your family, you'd be ok with that would you?

HolidayWoes18 · 21/05/2022 07:13

If you'd sought her out then you would be UR. But she came to you, she started the conversation with you. What were you supposed to do? Just nod and smile sweetly?

No, she involved you so YANBU.

saveforthat · 21/05/2022 07:31

In my town, I can guarantee that no-one is dismissive of good tradesmen. That's because there are hardly any around. Those that are seem to be so busy they don't care about new business so they arrange to quote and don't turn up, arrange to do a job and don't show etc etc. Trust me once a reliable plumber e.g. is found they are treated like royalty.

Intrigueddotcom · 21/05/2022 08:25

saveforthat · 21/05/2022 07:31

In my town, I can guarantee that no-one is dismissive of good tradesmen. That's because there are hardly any around. Those that are seem to be so busy they don't care about new business so they arrange to quote and don't turn up, arrange to do a job and don't show etc etc. Trust me once a reliable plumber e.g. is found they are treated like royalty.

This

the number of trade peoples that don’t bother turning up for quotes or are late because they are so busy they can pick and choose jobs

whereas the OP’s husband accepts a job he has no desire to and hopes that his quote his rejected and is disappointed when it is (how many years experience does your husband have op? Did you mean 25 years or 2.5 month?) and then struggles to handle a difficult client.

most odd

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