Israeli forces attacking funeral procession of a journalist

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I've just seen the videos and have been reading up on this, utterly gobsmacked..
I mean, you'd think they'd have left the funeral take place?

You know better than the Palestinian pathologist who carried out the autopsy do you, to make the statement Israeli forces murdered her?

The man shot with her says:

"We were going to film the Israeli army operation and suddenly they shot us without asking us to leave or stop filming," Al Jazeera cited Mr Samoudi as saying. "The first bullet hit me and the second bullet hit Shireen.

He would have to be lying about who shot him and his friend.

Other eyewitnesses say that the gunfight with Hamas was over well before the journalists were murdered. Israel released footage of the gunfight and it was not where the journalists were murdered. Both of them were wearing blue jackets clearly labelled as press.

"From independent journalists- the crowed surrounded the coffin because the police sealed the area it was in and approached it in riot gear."

Exactly my point.

The police were not to know who were bearers and who could have been suicide bombers. The bearers were not in mourning clothes or any kind of distinguishing clothing.

Funerals are emotionally-charged situations that can easily escalate:

www.timesofisrael.com/deadly-clashes-break-out-during-funeral-for-hamas-member-in-lebanon-refugee-camp/

You fucking what?
The pall bearers should have expected being beaten and ensured the coffin wouldn't fall so it's their fault? 🤦🤦.

Who the fuck can even try to justify pall bearers being beaten and blame them for not planning for that?

They absolutely did know who were pallbearers. They were carrying the coffin!

Some desperate scraping of barrels to defend what happened 🙄

Meanwhile Israeli settlers took advantage of all the people at the funeral by occupying their homes.

I am glad that so many people are now seeing the truth, but so sad that others still think there is nothing wrong with this.

Yep, I saw this too, absolutely shocking again, tbh that didn't surprise me as much as the incident with the funeral though, still can't believe it, and still can't believe there's people on this thread justifying that sort of behaviour.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been pulled yet?!?

Funerals are emotionally-charged situations that can easily escalate

If only there was a way of stopping funerals escalating........

Maybe by not attacking people which leads to the coffin almost being dropped - that would be a way

I hate the anti Israel bias on here. If they weren't constantly bombarded by rockets and a Palestinian leadership pledged to erasing Israel entirely - not to mention all their Arab neighbours professing the same - the IDF wouldn't have to be so forceful.

Do you think it helps any situation to have scenes like this?

Can you imagine what would have happened if British forces had done the same during Northern Ireland?

It is possible to support Israel and think that the thugs in uniform who attacked those holding the coffin of a Christian woman with Jesus on the Cross on it stain and shame their calling, their 'professionalism' and - if not properly dealt with by the authorities - their state.

So the Palestinians should just let Israeli settlers take their homes.
Do you know nothing about Israeli expansion? If you think its okay, then can I have your house? I'll just hang around outside and harass you, then when you go out, I'll just move in.
Israeli expansion is illegal under international law, yet nobody is doing anything about it.

I hate the anti Israel bias on here. If they weren't constantly bombarded by rockets and a Palestinian leadership pledged to erasing Israel entirely - not to mention all their Arab neighbours professing the same - the IDF wouldn't have to be so forceful.

How the hell is it anti-israeli to think police should not attack mourners and soldiers should not shoot mourners?

I criticise the UK government all the time. I'm not anti-british, I'm pro-british. I want us to have a better fucking governement.

This is rubbish and Israel have shot themselves in the foot. The PR of the way that have behaved is appalling

Even the UK government in the 80mostly let IRA funerals proceed unimpeded even if mourners were going where they shouldn't have or if they were singing IRA protest songs ( which was also illegal then) . That is because no matter whiose ' side' you are on, beating up mourners in a funeral is never a good look . Shame on them

I really struggle to understand the psychology behind this kind of thinking. After decades of oppression, and so much information and evidence online - how do you come to the conclusion that Israel are the ones who are suffering? Do you think Palestinians should just sit back and allow everything to be taken from them? Their culture, their homes, their country? Their basic human rights? Their entire ethnicity wiped out? That’s essentially what you’re saying they should do so the poor IDF don’t have to be so forceful - Palestinians should just give up and be wiped out.

Do you really believe the human shield and throwing rocks tropes? Would you believe Chinese or Russian reports and investigations blindly, like so many bizarrely choose to do with Israel? Why on earth, after everything that has happened over the decades, would you trust the word of an Israeli more than a Palestinian? Israel isn’t a democracy, it isn’t civilised and they have lied time upon time to create false rhetorics. This isn’t an equal conflict or war - it’s apartheid, oppressed and oppressor. Israel is indefensible and finally after years of western military funding and conveniently looking the other way, the world is waking up to what is happening and there is rightly uproar. It’s not “anti-Israel bias”, it’s standing up for what is right.

In May 2021, within just 11 days, 261 Palestinians were killed - 67 of them children. Here are their faces. These children were not lesser than Israelis or an inconvenience to the Jewish State, which is what they’re taught to believe from a young age.

There is no such thing as an innocent occupier.

Andariego well said.

It was appalling - there can be no excuse to make a confrontation at any funeral, let alone this one. As a Jew I yet again feel ashamed at the conduct of what is supposed to be 'my' country.

Exactly what I thought. Marginalisation of Palestinian suffering is treated with such disdain by the western media. Case in point is the assault on pallbearers and worshippers attacked while praying in mosque minimised as “scuffles”.

This.

Israel has had a good run of silencing any attempt to criticise its disgusting behaviour by conflating "anti-Semitism" with "opposing an apartheid state that breaks international law every day".

It looks like they're running out of road. About time.

Excellent post @Andariego

Bloody well said @Andariego

Sorry? Your best defense is that other people were throwing stones so it is ok to attack the pallbearers. Pallbearers who weren't throwing stones because they had,you know, both hands occupied with carrying a coffin?

WTAF!!

@Andariego
Absolutely. What is astonishing is that the same people who rightly dismiss Russian claims that Ukrainians are using women and children as human shields as lies can't see that this also applies to these claims about Palestinians.

And in any case, even if a people are driven to use their children as shields against an occupier's bombs, this would mean

a) They are desperate and also b) that they believe that having children in the building might stop their attacker's bombing.

Whilst I imagine many Palestinians fit into category a), I don't think any of them believe b) anymore so what possible motive could they have to place their children directly in harm's way? None at all. Israeli 'peace keeping' forces will kill Palestinian children without a second thought, they place no value at all on their lives.

Children being killed in such large numbers is appalling. Whilst I feel similarly appalled at the deaths of Israeli children, there is no denying that the numbers of those deaths do not even begin to compare with the number of Palestinian children killed.

Israel isn’t a democracy, it isn’t civilised and they have lied time upon time to create false rhetorics. This isn’t an equal conflict or war - it’s apartheid, oppressed and oppressor. Israel is indefensible and finally after years of western military funding and conveniently looking the other way, the world is waking up to what is happening and there is rightly uproar. It’s not “anti-Israel bias”, it’s standing up for what is right.

Whilst I agree with the first part,@Andariego , I fear that the world will just go back to sleep again in a few days time, when all the furore about this despicable attack will have faded.

'The World' is perfectly aware of what has been happening to the people of Palestibe all these years. But they do not care.