To think everyone needs to get a bloody grip

[crochetmonkey74]

Lighthearted -I'm so sick of everyone being so flaky after the pandemic. Last minute cancellations, emails not replied to for far too long, friends being just all a bit wet about everything. Anyone else feeling totally fed up and want to tell everyone to get a bloody grip

You don’t believe long Covid exists? You are deluded I’m afraid.

If it doesn’t exist then presumably I could simply just go back to socialising, working, exercising, saving money, just get on with my life like other people are? When instead I have developed a health condition as a result of Covid - which on top of the long Covid means I can’t just magic up my old life.

if we are getting a grip - we need to recognise the damage long Covid is doing to people, to the nhs, to our workforces - and we need to research treatments so we can help people recover.

ignoring illness doesn’t make it go away - however much vitriol you use!

@Thepeopleversuswork Internet forums have always been filled with the antisocial and socially awkward though. People IRL are out enjoying themselves, and have no time to post about how much they hate other people.

Most people enjoy the company of those they click with. Some people click with a broad section of people, others less so. But the much maligned 'blabbermouth extrovert who luurvess talking to all and sundry' is just a figment of people's imaginations.

Many people also don't quite understand that relationship building is vital for high performers. I disagree with forced corporate socializing on people's own time (especially because it discriminates against people who have other responsibilities), but the idea of needing a network stands. Nobody works in a bubble...

YANBU

I’m bloody sick of it all.

I think - FWIW - that far more people, at the moment, are living close to the limit of their endurance. Two years of pandemic have left them like over-stretched elastic, lacking in that 'extra bit to give', unable to spring back from things as they might previously have done.

But they LOOK OK. They ARE functioning, day to day , so from an outside perspective they look 'back to normal'. It's just that when 'a bit extra' is demanded, it can be that bit too much.

I was discussing a whole school project with a colleague, which would require a little bit extra from everyone. We discussed it, and by consensus ditched it for this year. For too many people, it seemed likely to prove too much. Not because they or we are 'flakes', but because everyone is 'just about coping', and it's unfair to add extra demands if it can be avoided.

This

Agree with you. No time for those who jump a foot into the air if they hear someone sneeze (ermmm hay fever season??) or practically step out in front of a car to avoid you on the pavement.Fortunately people around me aren't flakes, but I do have a good laugh at some of the lame excuses people come up with.
Obviously there are genuine excuses (a bereavement, childcare has let you down etc) but these listed beforehand and should be exceptions.

I am of the get a grip and get on with life brigade by nature and like OP am sick of the 'sissies'. We have to get on and not be self-indulgent and sorry for ourselves- there is no choice. We have to get out if the mess we are in now and establish a bit of rigour- life is going to be increasingly tough for at least a decade and probably longer. The impact of war in Ukraine, and possibly nearer, has not hit us yet, nor have the full effects if Brexit and I think we will see the collapse of the Union with NI and Scotland and possibly Wales in the next 10-20 years. These are huge events and won't just have economic consequences but social and cultural forever.
I think it's frightening and we are in danger of creating the biggest meltdown this country has experienced in a thousand years. The costs will be horrific and will be paid for for hundreds of years to come by taxpayers - not by the rich- who will no doubt demand compensation firm the government.
I think we will see massive social unrest in our cities and I'm dreading the future. But we have to get on with it and not namby pamby ourselves. We've got to build not just destroy our society. It's hugely complex change and we need to be prepared for it. I don't think most people have any concept if how complex it is.
It's time for a centre-left party or coalition that is not Labour or LibDem but has the best of both and the Greens, is not drawn along party lines and genuinely has the best for the country at heart.

came on here to say exactly this “Mumsnet is the spiritual home of the social flake” but it was already said by a PP.

OP you are preaching to the never-to-be-converted here. Totally agree with you, everyone needs to pull their finger out and get on with it. I am sick of the lame random excuses and the selfishness. I can’t wait until life goes back to normal. People who want to live like this will be left behind.

It's almost like everyone has been through a sort of traumatic event that impacted almost every aspect of their lives isn't it. Oh..wait...

What illness is it? What treatment would you enjoy?

Yes we need to get people back into work. The welfare state has failed

Actually there are prizes for having a stiff upper lip... like living in a country that wasn't conquered in 2 World Wars and doesn't now have german as our first language! How easily people forget the sacrifices made by the many for the few.

Imagine if every 17 year old Forces conscript was " kinder to themselves" and opted not to fight for the freedoms we now enjoy. Too many flakes around these days!
Get back to work and rebuild our society and our country or leave this devastation for your children to clear up.

The thing is, I am writing about school staff - who have pulled their finger out to do everything from food deliveries to face to face with large groups in crowded spaces without any safety considerations throughout. We are dealing with the impact on colleagues, family, pupils and their parents, and other services (Ed Pschs, SaLT, hospital and SS referrals all pretty much closed for business throughout so we have supported children without any external support). We're just a bit weary and a bit lacking in oomph for the 'extra's, because actually just doing our jobs has been somewhat tricky of late. We'll get there.

@MountainDewer

I agree that you're going to disproportionately get the introverted, anxious and people who are suspicious of social people on internet forums.

But there was a very specific phenomenon during the pandemic where tons of threads got started on here (and no doubt elsewhere) with people saying, basically: "Isn't it a relief not to have to pretend to enjoying going out now we're in lockdown like the dreaded extroverts" and "I hate people and I'm so glad I don't have to pretend to like them" etc etc.

Like all these things this was based on something understandable: ie people got a bit of relief from the work events which they can't face but have to be seen at and enjoying a less stressed pace of life.

But it tipped over at times into quite an unpleasant narrative which was basically that extroverts were all fake people without real friends who had spent millennia bullying introverts through their control of society and now they were getting their comeuppance. It was really quite vindictive in some instances.

I'm quite we're seeing fewer of those threads but I found it disturbing that so many people seemed to be saying that they basically hated everyone except their immediate family. It wasn't healthy at all.

This is frankly offensive. You didn't fight, I didn't fight.

Many of those who did fight were traumatised and their trauma was prolonged by the social pressure to suppress it.

Please state what treatment you would like. What are your actual symptoms?

What illness is it? What treatment would you enjoy?

As I understand it, long Covid is very similar to CFS / ME - which can leave people bedridden for years, and is more common than e.g. multiple sclerosis but is invisible because sufferers literally 'vanish from view'. Unfortunately, there is no known cure for ME / CFS at present, though it is to be hoped that the spotlight of long Covid may lead to a much more active and productive research and development pathway.

But they came back to rebuild the country and that is the rigour we need now! ,

meassociation.org.uk/what-is-me-cfs/ This is a basic set of info about ME / CFS - as I say, long Covid has many similar aspects and I understand may well be related.

Nice, I will use it in my mission my right hand doesn't work, well much.

Yes agree with this, and I'm far from an extrovert myself. It was unpleasant and more than a bit worrying.

Sorry, Featured - can you explain? WHO and the NHS recognise ME / CFS as a neurological condition - are you really stating that it doesn't exist? On what authority?

You can just guess which threads will get deleted.

Long Covid is the new granny killer

You’re far too sensible for this board OP 😂😂😂