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To think everyone needs to get a bloody grip

309 replies

crochetmonkey74 · 10/05/2022 18:45

Lighthearted -I'm so sick of everyone being so flaky after the pandemic. Last minute cancellations, emails not replied to for far too long, friends being just all a bit wet about everything. Anyone else feeling totally fed up and want to tell everyone to get a bloody grip

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crochetmonkey74 · 11/05/2022 23:09

cantkeepawayforever · 11/05/2022 22:54

But your specific examples are children showing less resilience (due to the lack of opportunities they have had the last few years), and colleagues being lazy (let’s face it, some always have been). It doesn’t seem enough to tell everyone to get a grip, especially as you are now saying you didn’t mean any of the obvious interpretations of that phrase??

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Mxr · 11/05/2022 23:40

It's complex !

Basically most people fail to grasp that we have all been lied to & done over by those ' in power'.
Not grasping this, has tested in most ppl closing in on themselves & those closest.
Thus seeming to become very self centred & not giving a fck about anyone else.
They've got everyone fraring outsiders.
It's called " divide and conquer ".
The masses of humanity have the Power, if they work together.
But if Govts & to heir cronies divide ppl & turn ppl against each other...they will not turn on the real guilty ones !!
That's what is & has been happening.
The only suction is to see it & try to help others who don't see it.

Frankly, a lot of ppl will never understand. They are gone & will orob go nuts in the end.
Coz it's not going to get better for at least a long time !
Sadly, too many are weak & too dumb to trust their own self. They believe the media, Drs, press, TV, & all the pressure they're being subjected to to ' conform & fit in :.
Good luck !
Stick to what you believe is true in your heart.

Nootella · 11/05/2022 23:41

Some of the responses on here are either from people who lack very basic comprehension or are just so self involved and up themselves they cannot possible read something and determine it isn't about them and therefore don't need to respond. Majority of these responses have nothing to do with being flakey and cancelling plans/ giving more responsibility to your peers or coworkers last minute

cantkeepawayforever · 12/05/2022 00:03

Surely that’s just a matter of perception?

You say I am flaky, I say I have experienced trauma.

You say I cancel plans last minute, I say I make adjustments based on my own health and circumstances.

etc etc

It is not misreading. It is presenting the other side, the other perspective on exactly the same behaviour.

Penguinevere · 12/05/2022 04:49

your op is so different to your later posts. You call it clarifying others call it back-pedalling. It’s a bit of both.

applesandoranges221 · 12/05/2022 05:28

I completely agree OP - it's not as annoying as people who bleated on about wanting lockdown forever more and are now complaining at the perfectly predictable price/ cost of living rises as a consequence of their demands, but it's close. I've removed people for whom covid is still the main topic of conversation from my life - I just can't do with the level of anxiety anymore and as you say, sick of "because covid" being an excuse when I've arranged my weekend around the time you wanted to get together.

threatmatrix · 12/05/2022 08:03

Just like real flu then?

threatmatrix · 12/05/2022 08:04

That sounded really jealous and nasty. Get a grip.

threatmatrix · 12/05/2022 08:12

crochetmonkey74 · 10/05/2022 18:45

Lighthearted -I'm so sick of everyone being so flaky after the pandemic. Last minute cancellations, emails not replied to for far too long, friends being just all a bit wet about everything. Anyone else feeling totally fed up and want to tell everyone to get a bloody grip

I feel exactly the same but I’m afraid you will get vilified on mums net as they are a different breed.

Scarriff · 12/05/2022 08:28

Couldn't agree more. IWwas offered tickets for thevtheatre end of May and messaged two friends to ask if theyvwould like to join me on the ine eveing I can attend. No reply for three days, so I called & left a message. Got a text back to say they were busy just then. Waited another two days, then messaged to say I was assuming the play did not grab them & was making other arrangements. Long defensive message back detailing various social events and commitments but not saying whether they were free or even interested. I know that they can only do one thing at a time, but its rude not to reply to invites in my opinion. Common though.

GoldenOmber · 12/05/2022 08:29

I think it’s interesting which behaviours here people think should be accepted because pandemic, and which should not be.

Not picking up emails, dropping out of commitments, otherwise letting people down at work or socially = acceptable, people have lived through a pandemic and they are tired, you can’t expect people to act normally.

Being on the receiving end of that behaviour and going “oh ffs” = totally unacceptable, how could you.

But the people going “oh ffs” have also lived through the same pandemic! And are also tired and have also been exposed to illness and loss and stress. I don’t want my colleagues to stop being useless about in-person visits because of some baseless ideology about Getting Back To Normal, I want them to do it because it is part of our job and them not doing any means the rest of us have to do more.

I think it’s one of the lingering effects of the pandemic, that people have become more insular and less aware that their actions and preferences don’t exist in isolation but affect other people too. There does have to be some give and take but it can’t all be one way.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 12/05/2022 08:45

I think there are a lot of people who have picked up a great deal of slack in the last two years, in various ways, and this hasn't always been very visible. It can't necessarily go on forever.

ancientgran · 12/05/2022 08:54

CorsicaDreaming · 11/05/2022 21:04

I am really sorry to hear this @ancientgran - take care and hang in there. I do hope you begin to feel better soon 💐

I've taken dr vogels echinacea to try and boost my immune system after a month of covid.

Thank you. Pharmacist recommended a multi vitamin with iron plus live yogurt to help after digestion trashed with all the antibiotics. To be fair to the antibiotics the 2nd lot did stop the pneumonia in its tracks which was good. My DD swears by Rescue Remedy. I might have to try something new.

I have various weird symptoms at the moment like I itch all over, driving me mad, I have joint pain which seemed normal with the fever but have now settled in my hands and wrists, I'm really hoping that stops. My digestive system, well I'm too polite to discuss it but not pleasant and then the exhaustion.

Slowly it is starting to improve but it has been a hellish 3 months.

ancientgran · 12/05/2022 08:59

TruthHertz · 11/05/2022 20:27

Vast majority of people just had to stop going to the pub etc and work from home. You can generally tell the glass half empty/full types by whether they're happy to have their relative freedom back or whether they're still 'dealing with the trauma'.

I'm very much a glass half full person, my husband is the glass half empty type, but however positive I am it doesn't alter the fact that I am dealing with the aftermath of all this. For almost 2 years I happily got on with it but in February it caught up with me and my glass being half full didn't help me breathe, didn't cure the pneumonia, didn't stop the pain of the rib I broke coughing. A positive attitude can only take you so far.

crochetmonkey74 · 12/05/2022 09:33

GoldenOmber · 12/05/2022 08:29

I think it’s interesting which behaviours here people think should be accepted because pandemic, and which should not be.

Not picking up emails, dropping out of commitments, otherwise letting people down at work or socially = acceptable, people have lived through a pandemic and they are tired, you can’t expect people to act normally.

Being on the receiving end of that behaviour and going “oh ffs” = totally unacceptable, how could you.

But the people going “oh ffs” have also lived through the same pandemic! And are also tired and have also been exposed to illness and loss and stress. I don’t want my colleagues to stop being useless about in-person visits because of some baseless ideology about Getting Back To Normal, I want them to do it because it is part of our job and them not doing any means the rest of us have to do more.

I think it’s one of the lingering effects of the pandemic, that people have become more insular and less aware that their actions and preferences don’t exist in isolation but affect other people too. There does have to be some give and take but it can’t all be one way.

Yes good post- and sums up how I feel perfectly

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EmmaH2022 · 12/05/2022 10:24

AppleandRhubarbTart · 12/05/2022 08:45

I think there are a lot of people who have picked up a great deal of slack in the last two years, in various ways, and this hasn't always been very visible. It can't necessarily go on forever.

so many people who have picked up slack, I'm grateful and I'm amazed there hasn't been mass strikes at essential services etc.

but the local refuse collector tells me the council have always treated them like shit and he feels not much has changed. He did say most people he knows carried on as normal though.

LondonMrsA · 12/05/2022 10:49

I think lots of people are using it as a convenient excuse for their bad manners/ reluctance to commit.

If people have been administered 3 x Vaccines, unless you are in frail health, we can pretty much proceed as before.

Those who have not been vaccinated should give their heads a shake.

petmads · 12/05/2022 12:17

Ok well getting a grip that will solve everything for everybody then what about people who lost their jobs, relatives died on their own bar nursing staff, people become homeless, food ran out so more strain on food banks, sucides i could go on but you know what youre not worth it .

LondonMrsA · 12/05/2022 12:29

We’ve gone waaaaaaay off topic as usual.

DysonSphere · 12/05/2022 12:57

Essentially we had a problem with assessment of risk before the pandemic and I do think it had already become a social feature to be overly concerned with risk, particularly in regards to parenting etc. Modern children were already quite restricted compared to my 70s childhood which was heavily composed of benign neglect, go out and play right next to the road, don't come back till suppertime, walk to school or library or leisure centre/swimming on your own and learn to use the gas appliances etc by relatively young age. Amazing to think some parents would purposely send their to children to the houses of playmates who had chickenpox so they could get it over and done with.

Modern advertising and corporate entities and big government messaging has completely exploited this modern penchant for risk adverseness. Ads for spraying every corner of your house with antiseptic, etc. Add to it the fact we are never without phones to be accountable and accessible everywhere we go.

All covid did was further exploit this, but some of it was damn well unethical 'dont kill granny' etc

People were purposely made overly frightened, my mother was a nervous wreck with the daily death toll reporting.

I'd like to think someone will be held accountable but it won't happen.

Naturally many will not go back to behaving how they were. Their entire sense of reality has been heavily manipulated and there doubtless will be for many a sense that life is very uncertain and 'staying safe' will be their priority.

For many that will be staying indoors and not socialising like they used to. Naive to expect them to.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 12/05/2022 13:50

It's a good point about the government engaging in deliberate manipulation and weaponisation of people's existing anxieties. We are going to see the effects of that dragged out for a while, I think.

FarFarFarAndAway · 12/05/2022 14:13

If people have been administered 3 x Vaccines, unless you are in frail health, we can pretty much proceed as before

I did and am now in week 4 of a bad bout of Covid which has severely impacted my ability to function. Luck of the draw. Don't be complacent. I know of quite a few formerly fit people who are taking weeks and weeks to get over Covid. Yes, it's just post-viral, nothing new but it is incapacitating more than normal amounts of the people I know and we don't usually have this with flu, I haven't anyway.

FarFarFarAndAway · 12/05/2022 14:15

Also, there's just been some research out that shows that even people who said they had no problems with memory or attention but who have had Covid perform worse on cognitive tests than others who have not had it. The impact of Covid on a whole population is quite profound and still not known. So, it's hardly surprising everyone isn't at their best.

crochetmonkey74 · 12/05/2022 15:06

LondonMrsA · 12/05/2022 12:29

We’ve gone waaaaaaay off topic as usual.

Yep off topic and tragedy bingo

MN is not what it was

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CorsicaDreaming · 12/05/2022 15:24

@ancientgran - I got the itching all over thing too! I've bought some Badedas bath crème / foam (the old ones are the best) and it helps I think. It's the weirdest Russian Roulette of a virus.

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