Page 7 | To think everyone needs to get a bloody grip

crochetmonkey74 · 2022-05-10T17:45:42+00:00

Lighthearted -I'm so sick of everyone being so flaky after the pandemic. Last minute cancellations, emails not replied to for far too long, friends being just all a bit wet about everything. Anyone else feeling totally fed up and want to tell everyone to get a bloody grip

cantkeepawayforever · 10/05/2022 22:50

WouldBeGood · 10/05/2022 22:45

Long Covid is the new granny killer

I am not sure on the research on this one. Obviously mortality from Covid directly is higher in older age groups. My impression is that Long Covid is affecting younger people - in the same way that ME / CFS strikes across age groups (though predominantly in females). Can you point to appropriate data?

MountainDewer · 10/05/2022 23:36

@Thepeopleversuswork ah fair enough.
Maybe it's new for the supposed lovely mummy stream on MN. But people have been saying stuff like that on other forums for years.
I don't think it's 'new' quite frankly. Just became more socially acceptable to say it, on here.

Phobiaphobic · 11/05/2022 00:02

crochetmonkey74 · 10/05/2022 19:59

I think as a teacher, I am concerned about the lack of resilience. We are finding that students are not understanding that some things are immovable (students emailing the night before an exam to say they don't feel ready and expecting that the exam board will just sort something out for them)
We are also struggling to get them to understand responsibility and duty (dropping out of team events on the day and leaving fixtures unable to go ahead or putting too much responsibility on the kids left behind)
I think we are normalising this in the name of self care and mental health but we need to be careful how we model it I think. Its normal to be nervous before a match or presentation or performance for example

This concerns me too. Kids seem to be very fragile and self-absorbed now, and really struggling to achieve any kind of emotional maturity.

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Featuredcreature · 11/05/2022 00:15

Oh no

Jourdain11 · 11/05/2022 00:46

crochetmonkey74 · 10/05/2022 19:59

I think as a teacher, I am concerned about the lack of resilience. We are finding that students are not understanding that some things are immovable (students emailing the night before an exam to say they don't feel ready and expecting that the exam board will just sort something out for them)
We are also struggling to get them to understand responsibility and duty (dropping out of team events on the day and leaving fixtures unable to go ahead or putting too much responsibility on the kids left behind)
I think we are normalising this in the name of self care and mental health but we need to be careful how we model it I think. Its normal to be nervous before a match or presentation or performance for example

I'm interested by your point here. I work in a uni and we are having a nightmare with exams currently. It seems like every second person needs adjustments or deferrals and unfortunately, it's actually in many cases not going to be good for them, because they'll end up sitting in August, not having had teaching for months.

A lot of this is stored up from earlier in the year when a lot of extensions were granted. People pushed their work down the road and now aren't ready to sit exams.

Plus, we have created an environment where people expect that something can always be done. Now there's a move back to normal regs and, reasonably enough, it is proving to be very challenging for them.

I think it was reasonable to suspend 'normal rules' during the first lockdown, poss even the second, but it then went on for too long.

ArcheryAnnie · 11/05/2022 01:07

Featuredcreature · 10/05/2022 21:59

They really do. Long covid my fucking arse.

I can't possibly imagine why the OP, and this poster here, and a few others on this thread haven't had their friends disclose their medical details to them, or want to spend precious energy and effort to hang out with them. It's an absolute mystery.

ArcheryAnnie · 11/05/2022 01:10

Most people now prioritise those that matter most. Maybe look at your attitude and who you are as a person to see why you're not making the cut

Perfectly put.

JangolinaPitt · 11/05/2022 06:27

crochetmonkey74 · 10/05/2022 19:59

I think as a teacher, I am concerned about the lack of resilience. We are finding that students are not understanding that some things are immovable (students emailing the night before an exam to say they don't feel ready and expecting that the exam board will just sort something out for them)
We are also struggling to get them to understand responsibility and duty (dropping out of team events on the day and leaving fixtures unable to go ahead or putting too much responsibility on the kids left behind)
I think we are normalising this in the name of self care and mental health but we need to be careful how we model it I think. Its normal to be nervous before a match or presentation or performance for example

I agree.
I am a teacher too and the lack of resilience is definitely more prevalent.

CorsicaDreaming · 11/05/2022 06:39

@MadameTuffington2 - have you asked CAMHS to write a letter to the school with the assessment and recommendation that she should sit her exams in a separate room to help her?

CorsicaDreaming · 11/05/2022 06:39

@MadameTuffington2 - have you asked CAMHS to write a letter to the school with the assessment and recommendation that she should sit her exams in a separate room to help her?

CorsicaDreaming · 11/05/2022 06:44

cantkeepawayforever · 10/05/2022 22:16

I think - FWIW - that far more people, at the moment, are living close to the limit of their endurance. Two years of pandemic have left them like over-stretched elastic, lacking in that 'extra bit to give', unable to spring back from things as they might previously have done.

But they LOOK OK. They ARE functioning, day to day , so from an outside perspective they look 'back to normal'. It's just that when 'a bit extra' is demanded, it can be that bit too much.

I was discussing a whole school project with a colleague, which would require a little bit extra from everyone. We discussed it, and by consensus ditched it for this year. For too many people, it seemed likely to prove too much. Not because they or we are 'flakes', but because everyone is 'just about coping', and it's unfair to add extra demands if it can be avoided.

@cantkeepawayforever - this is the wisest post on this thread.

I wish my senior management would realise this and stop always needing just a bit more or changing the goal posts at the moment.

CorsicaDreaming · 11/05/2022 06:49

@MadameTuffington2 - have you asked CAMHS to write a letter to the school with the assessment and recommendation that she should sit her exams in a separate room to help her?

CorsicaDreaming · 11/05/2022 06:52

@Thepeopleversuswork

"but I found it disturbing that so many people seemed to be saying that they basically hated everyone except their immediate family. It wasn't healthy at all"

Although perhaps an understandable reaction to a pandemic where you think any contact with someone outside your family may infect you and bring it home to your family - which was a very real fear at the start of the pandemic.

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crochetmonkey74 · 11/05/2022 07:06

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If you read the thread and my responses you'll see these are not the things I'm talking about. Sorry you are finding it tough at the moment

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Blueeyedgirl21 · 11/05/2022 07:30

@CorsicaDreaming I have to disagree, what a weird mind set to decide to dislike anyone outside of your household in case they gave you covid, no I didn’t feel like that, and no one I know did either! Most people I know we’re desperately missing family and friends and weren’t thinking they were ‘the enemy’ because they might give them bloody coronavirus. In the end didn’t everyone end up getting it anyway, what a pointless reaction that would have been, and so damaging to people’s relationships

Blueeyedgirl21 · 11/05/2022 07:34

Long covid is post viral fatigue syndrome it’s been around forever but no one gave a shit until you can relate it to covid and it seems relevant, unfortunately there have been people suffering with it for years who are still getting overlooked because of the fashionable long covid label

FindingMeno · 11/05/2022 07:40

I think people should crack on now.
I've gone out to work all the way through and I'm a bit 😯 at people still using covid as an excuse unless they actually have covid/ long covid.

CorsicaDreaming · 11/05/2022 07:41

@Blueeyedgirl21
Well it is interesting because I remember having a conversation with my best friend standing outside her house during the lockdown - and dutifully standing 2 metres away from each other - saying how weird it felt that your best friend could potentially be the person who gave you Covid and what a psychological disconnect that felt.

iheartmybeachhut · 11/05/2022 07:44

The entire world was affected in one way or another it will take years for some people to readjust if they ever do. Everything is different now just as it was after two world wars and 911.

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crochetmonkey74 · 11/05/2022 07:45

The point I will make to those saying self care and mental health are the priority, I agree to a point but if you have to take your child to hospital and there are no doctors because we have normalised having time off or not prioritising duty of care over personal health, then we are going to have problems.

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CorsicaDreaming · 11/05/2022 07:46

@FindingMeno - well I decided to crack on as you put it, and went for the first meal in a pub indoors rather than always planning to eat outdoors or avoiding crowded spaces - and got Covid, and it has wiped out the last month for me.

So "cracking on" can only go so far... especially as you are not even immune from it for long and can then go and get it again in a few months.

I can't see how we can live our lives exactly as before if you're one of the unlucky ones it affects quite badly and are potentially losing a month of work / life / plans twice a year.

Roselilly36 · 11/05/2022 07:51

100% agree OP.

FindingMeno · 11/05/2022 08:00

@CorsicaDreaming it's not that I'm unsympathetic.
But the country is on its arse and I don't want my children paying forever for measures to keep 100% of people safe 100% of the time ( which isn't possible anyway)
Life involves risk and we should adapt to this new risk now.