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Is Starmer seriously going to resign???

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Swayingpalmtrees · 10/05/2022 09:51

I have been waiting for a thread to come up about this, but I can't see one to date. I can't believe Keir Starmer has now said he will resign (and Angela Rayner as well) Potentially leaving the Labour party with no leader at all!

Looking at the 'evidence' that is well known and has been published, it appears the Indian takeaway was pre ordered (due to its size) and pre planned according to the staff at the Indian and the leaked memo, it did include quite a number of people and bottles of beer etc and drinking. It was late into the night, so not work related, and no one is suggesting anyone continued to work afterwards as it was so late. I don't see how this is any different to the No10 arrangements! So how on earth will they avoid a fine??

Sir Keir's speech was so wobbly I actually thought he was resigning there and then, and although I appreciate the sentiments of integrity and honour, where on earth does that leave the LP with under two years to the election or less?

Who would replace him? Do we have any thoughts on a plan of any kind?

I am kind of aghast, we are in the middle of a European war, on the cusp of potentially WW3, I am not sure this is a responsible action given the seriousness of our predicament with Russia whom are threatening us on a weekly basis with nuclear war. At the very very least, we need a firm hand on the tiller, so to speak, we do not have time to be squabbling over beer and cheese.
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derxa · 13/05/2022 13:15

The device beeps if it gets too close to another proximity sensor

Notonthestairs · 13/05/2022 13:19

Maybe they should have used them in Johnson

metro.co.uk/2022/01/15/downing-street-staff-made-puppy-gate-for-boris-johnson-while-he-isolated-15923808/amp/

Comefromaway · 13/05/2022 13:29

And they were using those in Spring of 2021! Oh my life!

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:34

Notonthestairs · 13/05/2022 13:19

Yes but I don't think Keir was that careful either. He was forever getting Covid. Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance got CV. They were all cavalier. I wonder why.

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:36

Comefromaway · 13/05/2022 13:29

And they were using those in Spring of 2021! Oh my life!

What's your point?

Notonthestairs · 13/05/2022 13:37

No you are mistaken. He wasn't "forever getting covid" - he had to isolate as per the law after contact.
Those pesky laws written by...

Notonthestairs · 13/05/2022 13:38

But interesting that you think anyone that caught covid must have been "cavalier".

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 13/05/2022 13:41

Stolengoat · 13/05/2022 01:03

By saying he is going to resign if fined, Starmer has politicised the police and put them in an awkward situation. To me it's a despicable move, he's now worse than Johnson.

Hahahahahahaha er no.

eastegg · 13/05/2022 13:46

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:34

Yes but I don't think Keir was that careful either. He was forever getting Covid. Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance got CV. They were all cavalier. I wonder why.

Sorry, people getting Covid have been ‘cavalier’? Do you know the circumstances in which the people you name got Covid? You do understand that quite a lot of people have died from this virus don’t you? Were they all cavalier too?

What crass comments.

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:48

Notonthestairs · 13/05/2022 13:37

No you are mistaken. He wasn't "forever getting covid" - he had to isolate as per the law after contact.
Those pesky laws written by...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59880263
He caught it at least twice.

pointythings · 13/05/2022 13:51

Unbelievably offensive to suggest that people who caught COVID were 'cavalier'.

Self isolating because of being pinged as a contact does not mean you've caught COVID, nor does it mean you've been 'cavalier'.

Many, many people caught COVID despite having followed every law and taken every precaution.

eastegg · 13/05/2022 13:51

Are you the poster whose DH has only just ‘gone back’, and has proximity sensors? What a joke. Some people’s jobs involve a bit more contact with the real world. And expose them to Covid.

You sound really ignorant, I don’t say that lightly derxa, you really do.

pointythings · 13/05/2022 13:52

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:48

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59880263
He caught it at least twice.

And? So? You do know that not everyone's immune system is created equal, don't you?

Cornettoninja · 13/05/2022 13:54

@derxa KS has two school aged children. I, like 85% of people I know, caught covid from my child when their class was clearly having an outbreak.

Regardless, exposure to any virus is impossible to avoid, there’s no 100% fool proof method of avoiding them (made harder if you regularly share a workplace with people flouting precautions….like parliament perhaps).

Notonthestairs · 13/05/2022 13:54

I've had it twice. I don't think anyone would suggest I was "forever getting covid".

pointythings · 13/05/2022 13:58

My former colleague has had it twice. Triple vaxed, working from home. I'll let her know she's 'forever getting COVID' and needs to be less cavalier.

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:59

eastegg · 13/05/2022 13:51

Are you the poster whose DH has only just ‘gone back’, and has proximity sensors? What a joke. Some people’s jobs involve a bit more contact with the real world. And expose them to Covid.

You sound really ignorant, I don’t say that lightly derxa, you really do.

Grin Charming The facts are that BJ caught CV and was hospitalised and KS caught it twice.

SleeplessInEngland · 13/05/2022 14:00

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:59

Grin Charming The facts are that BJ caught CV and was hospitalised and KS caught it twice.

And..?

pointythings · 13/05/2022 14:04

Catching COVID twice doesn't mean you've been 'cavalier' about precautions, nor is it some kind of moral failing.

ilovesooty · 13/05/2022 14:07

I can't believe that anyone can be so offensive and crass to say that if someone catches covid it's their own irresponsible fault.

Blossomtoes · 13/05/2022 14:08

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:48

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59880263
He caught it at least twice.

He’s got school age children, you know - those infection spreading missiles who pick up everything going and constantly make the adults in their lives ill.

ilovesooty · 13/05/2022 14:12

It certainly looks as though the Conservative government and Daily Mail attempts to discredit Starmer have been pretty inconsequential.

Tory apologists won't accept that though.

pointythings · 13/05/2022 14:13

ilovesooty · 13/05/2022 14:07

I can't believe that anyone can be so offensive and crass to say that if someone catches covid it's their own irresponsible fault.

I can't either. And derxa used to be measured and reasonable about things.

eastegg · 13/05/2022 14:20

derxa · 13/05/2022 13:59

Grin Charming The facts are that BJ caught CV and was hospitalised and KS caught it twice.

I’ve backed up why you sound ignorant. It wasn’t meant to be charming.

Now you tell me what ‘the facts’ are. But you didn’t stick to the facts. You said CW and PV, ie people who have had Covid, were cavalier.

eastegg · 13/05/2022 14:23

My 13 year old DS has had it twice. God what sort of a parent am I ? Sending him into school and all. 🤭