Part 3 AIBU to wonder why so many people assume Johnny Depp is the good guy and Amber Heard is the villain

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Following on from parts 1 and 2
Trial has gone 'dark' this week as the Judge is at a conference so it's going to be quiet on that front and I expect this thread will run slower than the previous two, however, there is still plenty of material and evidence from the last three weeks that we can 'cross examine'.

Any and all opinions welcome.

Oh, great. Another one of those every-second-person armchair diagnosers of a 'narcissist'. It must be one of the most overused words since 'stunning and brave'. And these days, it's so overused as to be all-but meaningless.

Narcissism is a very rare condition but no one would think so, given the number of people who claim to know one.

I could not cope with this at all. If she's faking she's doing an amazing job.

Yes me neither. Shame as I do think he's a gifted actor. But I will not watch or support anything given the attitude to women he has shown.

The questioning this afternoon has been awful.
Johnny got her the role in aquaman
Her apologising shows she was the abuser
Claiming she is verbally abusive and denying Jahnny was verbally abusive after playing a tape of them literally saying the same things to each other (ifound that quite gaslighty)

Mind you I very much enjoyed Velasquez saying Amber had never mentioned the public grabbing before this trial, and then Amber directing her to the page where it was mentioned in the UK statements :D

What I am seeing is very consistent with her allegations and I am in awe of her bravery going to court to face this

She's a lot sharper than him in dialogue. He's so slow and slurry when he speaks.
But none of this is edifying. Why didn't they bloody separate , the bloody muppets.

Has she changed her testimony? From case 1 to now? Her lawyer is very twitchy about this.

My starting premise was to believe AH. Not watched her on the stand today, so perhaps my view by yesterday will change. On the stand yesterday and week before last she describes an extreme high level of violence with no corroborating evidence. The photos she submits shows v little marks and nothing like what would they be if JD had beaten her as she describes. Her story didn’t add up. I have no doubt JD’s drug and alcohol addiction made him v difficult to have a relationship with, but I am still not convinced he regularly beat her up.

I think she comes across as feeling very secure in what the truth is and obviously fed up with having it raked over. I think this is actually better than the more dramatic and emotional testimony (although obviously that had to come in too).

If this is August 2016 what was the point of it? Like was it pre the divorce? It's not the court case with The Sun

metro.co.uk/2016/08/13/amber-heard-arrives-for-deposition-at-johnny-depps-attorneys-office-after-two-failed-attempts-6066159/amp/

Divorce deposition.
Must be different to our process in the UK?

This thread is cognitive dissonance at its finest. We are all watching the same evidence and applying different meanings to it

I’m pretty sure that even if AH marched up and punched him in the face in front of the jury that some posters would find an excuse for her.

Her twisting of things is massively Trumpian:

You admitted to hitting him- I reacted to him hurting me.
You kept money you promised to a charity- I pledged it.
You don’t have any bruises in this picture- I’m good with make-up.

There is always an answer for everything just as though she is making it up as she goes.

@Legrandsophie you are right about the cognitive dissonance part indeed, I don't know how else to describe DV victims/survivors and other women siding with Depp.

I just think people bring their own perspective and interpretation. I could equally say the Depp defenders are somehow deficient intellectually but I think it's better to just discuss and not insult. I probably haven't always managed that but it's my intention.

After the medical report claiming Amber is a man I also laughed at the lawyer doing a silly voice for the 'you will never see my eyes again' but although I fully recognise I'm a hypocrite who felt humour had no place when it was Depp smirking. Although he did smile as she did it.

She just slipped up and admitted that she tipped off TMZ that she was filing a restraining order, which is why there were so many paparazzi outside the court that day.

For context: this was a few days after she’d received a letter from Depp denying her a larger divorce settlement. He had left for the European leg of his band tour that morning and would be away for nearly two months. That night she changed the locks on the penthouse (that he’d refused to hand over to her).

Again, are these the actions of someone out for money or someone scared for their lives?

There were no accusations of violence before he denied her a larger divorce settlement. And remember- he left her.

Perhaps they see that all her evidence is hearsay and bias. What does she have beyond her own word and her interpretation of the text messages.

I suspect she could shoot him and you’d still maintain she was the victim.

It's ridiculous she can't say she had evidence of medical records re her nose

I'd be wondering what they wanted to prevent as a lay jury person

AH is paying them £6m for this? 😮

She’s not. She just wants everyone to think that this is the reason why she didn’t pay the charities the money she ‘pledged’.

The way she tries to twist every statement to absolve herself of all responsibility and to make it about him doing something wrong. I think many abuse victims will recognize that pattern. She is putting on a master class on DARVO (deny, attack and reverse victim and offender). She also miraculously forgets any details where she had any responsiblity.

Johnny admitted his faults - she would have been far more believable if she had also done the same and been truthful about some aspects of it. The denying of the obvious and trying to recreate history as to what texts or recordings were about is laughable. But she either believes it or thinks she is convincing enough that others believe it.

If she has seen all these doctors then where are the medical records and testimonies. Even if she doesn’t have pictures the. At least she could have them testify to her injuries.

Isn't that what they've been trying to show now?

Not looking at her could also go against Depp. Him not looking at her can have so many meanings including not looking at her because of dismissing/dehumanising her.

I don't think it is reasonable to suggest he's not looking at her because he's been so badly abused by her when he's been laughing and joking in the court room personally.