To think 8.30am is an acceptable time for a child to play in the garden?

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The tiny terrorist is on one this morning and I said to my partner it's fine we can get him out in garden in 20 mins or so to burn off the excess energy. He looked at me like I had two heads and told me anything before 10 or 10.30 on a weekend was unacceptable and would make us those neighbours. For context we have 2 attached neighbours both with babies or young children themselves and ours is only a toddler so plays relatively quietly (obviously not silently though). So aibu, am I accidentally the neighbour from hell?

I can't believe people are actually saying how do you keep a toddler amused inside till 10. Well very easily. Before 9:30am really isn't on. Irrelevant that they have small children, both mine slept past 8am.

I've been awake to the sound of the eternal DIYer since 7am. I'd be so much happier if I could hear a child running around instead!

I’d say 9 but adjust it by 30 min each way depending if your neighbours like mine play loud music late into night (in which case you should feel free to make noise!) or if they are all v silent and work hard (in which case maybe let em sleep til 9.30.

I think your DH is mad to say a child has to stay inside until 10 that doesn’t seem fair at all.

I'm a childminder and let children in the garden at 8.00!
I have neighbours who start their lawnmowers/chop saws/strimmers at 7.30 on a Sunday......a neighbour who thinks nothing of drilling at 7.10am ........neighbours who let their dog bark at 2.00am every morning....a neighbour who thinks he's in Ibiza and wants to share his playlist with everyone....they never consider me!
So, yes, I do let children in the garden early....

You see, I still believe in a courteous way, e en if others don’t necessarily do so. Life isn’t an endless game of tit for tat

Yu have the right to go out at any time, but I'd be silently judging you for waking me up at 8.30 and imagining how late I could lay loud music in revenge, although I wouldn't actually do,it. 9 I don't see how anyone could have an issue, or be disturbed.

Quite mixed responses here! We usually do a one lay in one get up thing and never really bother if the neighbours make noise, they're always up early as we hear them with the dogs etc (both of them). No houses behind to consider. But incase next door are in the unreasonable camp I'll be sure to wait until 9.30!

At 18 mo you should probably teach him a bit of manners. And teach him not to be a tiny terror? (Cuz i assume he screams...otherwise why would you call him a tiny terror)

Kids can be terrors without screaming.
My 8mo is a terror because she's crawling and cruising and into everything.

OP's DS just needs to burn off some steam.

What makes you think he has no manners? Your comment is quite rude.

???? Really? Or is that more of the MN virtue signalling, purity spiral madness?

@SamphirethePogoingStickerist no idea what you're talking about. OP asked what time other parents let their kids go outside, I responded. If you interpreted my comment as judgemental that's not my problem. No need to be snarky. My kids have more than enough to entertain them indoors until 10am, although we often go out earlier than that.

Oh it's not screaming it's the fact he likes to climb and run me ragged 😂 safer and easier to handle outside!

8.30 is fine

It's their garden and as long they are not screaming I don't see why they shouldn't be out enjoying themselves.

So, say there was a doctor just got home at 8.30 am after a nightshift in A & E - you can’t see why they need some sleep before their next shift tonight? Especially if they worked all day Friday, had a couple of hours break, then worked all Friday night as a locum, because the hospital was desperate? And promised to do tonight as well?

YABU for calling child a tiny terrorist, thats horrible even in fun.

Agreed!

I can't see 8:30am for a toddler in garden as a problem - as long as they are not doing an impression of the Trio advert....

The birds make such a Dawn chorus racket round here and they start at 5:30am!

It's early morning DIY drilling and hammering I can't abide. And if anyone starts using a leaf blower I would cheerfully shoot them...

TRIO!!!

I'm with your OH. Not everyone has young kids, and many of us like a lie-in on the weekend! I'd wait until at least 9, although ideally 10am. If my neighbours let their kids in the garden at 8.30 and woke me up I'd be fuming. I've done my time getting up with my own kids, no desire to hear yours, thank you!

I can't believe some people are suggesting as late as 10am for children to be allowed to play outside in their own gardens just to allow neighbouring adults extra sleep. Many adults spend time in the garden chatting and laughing well into a summer evening after children have gone to bed and are trying to sleep.

I think children should have as much time outside as possible really. Seems a shame that it isn't the priority here. 8:30 is not exactly early.

I was woken just before midnight last night by NDN shouting at his dog to come in from the garden.

The dog is deaf as a post and NDN is a fekking moron. And they run their washing machine at 4.30am.

I agree. Toddlers may have lunch at 11:30 to go down for a nap at midday. Morning sun is important for your body clock, I always had DS out well before 10 when he was little. May have partly been because of living in a warmer country where you need to keep young children in the shade in the middle of the day as well. So out until 11 then in for lunch/nap/inside play until 3.

@DappledShade completely agree. But MN is a very adult-centric place.

What time did your kids actually start making noise when they were young? I bet your neighbour often heard them before 9:30am

I don't think its just because people are adult centric. My kids are under 10 and I wouldn't let them disturb the neighbours at 8.30am.

@Hamster1111 you sound like a lovely neighbour 🤔

Fume away. Maybe shoot the dawn chorus too.

Probably the ones on the other side of the wall heard them, from when they were awake, some days worse than others. But I wouldn't let them outside to disturb anyone else. I still have young children now, so I'm sure they hear us, as we hear them. But being in the garden means many surrounding houses can hear any noise and I just don't think it's considerate to let them out at 8.30.