To think 8.30am is an acceptable time for a child to play in the garden?

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The tiny terrorist is on one this morning and I said to my partner it's fine we can get him out in garden in 20 mins or so to burn off the excess energy. He looked at me like I had two heads and told me anything before 10 or 10.30 on a weekend was unacceptable and would make us those neighbours. For context we have 2 attached neighbours both with babies or young children themselves and ours is only a toddler so plays relatively quietly (obviously not silently though). So aibu, am I accidentally the neighbour from hell?

9 is my minimum. Anything earlier is just inconsiderate to others.

I don't think you're being unreasonable.

If he's not making excessive noise, then neighbours who are easily awoken by the general noises in life need to take accountability and wear ear plugs or play white noise.

You can't stop living your reasonable life on the offchance your child might wake them up.

Obviously excessive noise and you bring him inside.

It’s your garden, use it how you like! Most people are awake at 8:30.

10:30 is like nap time or approaching the hottest time of day when young children shouldn’t be out in direct sun so why wait until then.

I always stuck to 9 because I am a generally considerate neighbour.

Interestingly though if it was an adult party at 1am on mumsnet and you couldn’t sleep you’d be told to suck it up.

I’d much rather my neighbours let a child out at 8.30 than had loud parties, personally.

so yanbu I think.

My 3 year old doesn't talk we go out at 7 when it's hot.
I don't care TBH

That's my view too. I absolutely don't expect the neighbours not to use their garden after 7pm even though it absolutely does sometimes disturb my kids getting to sleep but, in return, I expect them to live with a bit of noise first thing in the morning sometimes.

I’d think anything after 8am is fine. I say that as someone who loves my sleep and has 3 children who are now old enough to leave me to lay in at the weekends. Yes there may be some playful noise but if it’s not my dc so I’d turn over and ignore.

People mow their lawns at that time round here so 8.30am is fine. We are usually woken up just after 6 by our kids so 8.30am seems like lunch time to us, if you have neighbours with young children too I'd assume they'd been up for hours too.

Mine too, absolutely needs to be the same level of consideration both ways. Often people who keep others up late at night are the first to complain about morning noise.

Personally I'd say 9

But I don't know why people think they're entitled to silence tbh

In deepest suburbia in a typical 24h, we have builders, mowers, various bin trucks, shift workers coming home, hot tubs, kids playing, bike locks clattering, garden drinking, doors closing, general diy, traffic, all with the bass of the local big A road a couple of streets away... plus the occasional milkman at 3am

I'll RTFT in a minute, but just to say - a few years ago, I did a very similar thread to this one... Only my neighbours sent their 3 boys out in the garden every Sat/Sun at around 0730.

I was told I was wildly unreasonable, and entitled, selfish and lazy 🙈

Oh and I forgot cats fighting and the local dog chorus (when one barks usually3reply)

I don't think it is a myth. Most kids are naturally early risers. There are a minority who aren't but most parents work and need their kids up in time to get to childcare/school so put some effort into moving them to an early schedule which tends to apply to the weekends too as most kids prefer a routine.

Obviously there are a minority of parents who don't work or home educate or whatever but the vast majority don't really have the luxury of allowing their kids to get up late.

8:00 is prime jetwash/lawn mower/let your dog out to bark incessantly/builders commence work accompanied by full volume local radio time on the weekends here. - Here too, not loudly but always some movement

Mine all grown up now but 8-8:30 on a Saturday (and weekday in holidays) for quiet play with sandpit, and matchbox cars, and quiet toys, maybe some water. No screaming or running. After 9-9:30, they were allowed the sit-on cars/bikes and bigger dumper trucks, and the small trampoline … and to call out !

Sunday - full on from 9/9:30/10am - depending on other neighbourhood noise. Was mostly just my son though - although regularly had sleepovers, with cousin or pals (one at a time until too old to make lots of noise in garden).

Weekends I think 9am is the earliest. I sent them out earlier, at 8.30 once by mistake - I misread the clock and they’d been asking me for an hour by this point and I felt bad for my neighbours even though the kids are not too noisy!

I said that it was a myth that all young children are early risers. Given that you have just acknowledged that there are some who aren't, albeit a minority, it seems that we agree.

You say your neighbours have children, so will be up. Doesn't necessarily follow. One of them may ha e hot up with them leaving the other for a lie in, for example.

I'd agree with 9/9.30 late enough.

You could always ask the neighbours!

But such a small minority that it's a fair assumption.

Like it's a fair assumption that people have two legs. Yes there are amputees but it's not common

9am here. Our 3yo wakes at 5am and is desperate to go out before but our neighbours ours would hate us as he isn’t a quiet boy. It’s a painful 4 hours. Sometimes we go early to a park.

I think it's fine.

I would have thought that a lot of people are awake by then.

8.30 is fine. It's not like adults pack up and come in by 7pm in the summer evenings.

As long as there isn't excessive noise.

I am sure mine were out in the garden from about 7.30 when they were little. So were everyone else's children though - Victorian terraces with long gardens.

My elderly NDN would start playing his organ at 8.

I find MN very unrepresentative of people I know with regards to how late you all seem to get up.

My neighbour 3 doors down kids are often in the garden by 8am;sometimes earlier and are out until 9pm some days;they scream and shout the whole day.It's supremely annoying but I grin and bear it as she has 5 boys and they are a handful plus I have 4 kids who were once small and spent most of the warm days in the garden however we did use to break it up with trips to local parks

There are levels of noise. A child on their own isn't making that much noise so 8.30 is fine. Obviously a full blown party with 20 kids at that time would be a bit inconsiderate.