To think male violence will never end?

[YouAreNotBatman]

I was reading the news about 14 year old boy raping and killing a 10 year old girl and I just became so tired.
So tired of endless violence boys and men do to girls and women.
And how they don’t care, they seem to think it’s funny or get angry at any woman who try and speak about it.

I disagree with all sexual entertainment in any shape or form, no matter the gender.

Course it makes a difference in boys and girls.

I grew up with Vera in Coronation Street constantly slapping, punching and dragging Jack down the street by his ear. Throwing his stuff out the window.
Women throwing drinks on men.

You dont think that shapes people?

I'm not goin gto drop this "thing" about male victims being diminished, because they are.

I bet you believe every bloke he tells you he's a nice guy as well, don't you?

Well, why don’t you start a thread about that?

This one is about how to stop male violence. You don’t think boys being taught from a very young age not to be weak makes any difference - what about stag nights to strip clubs? What about porn?

Thanks Truth. Perfect post.

I once pointed about men and feminists and was told men couldn't be feminists because how could they understand. When I pointed out that how could they then step up and help, I was mocked with "Oh poor menz, we must be ncie to them".

I totally, totally agree with your second part. I regularly read on here that there is a lack of people sticking up on threads where women are bashed, but I can't imagine as many men sat around discussing these types of topics as sites like these.

waves to my fellow handmaid and MRA

But isnt about how to stop male violence.

I made a number of suggestions on what could have caused this boys actions and was accused of justifying.

I never mentioned the weak thing. I'm a huge advocate of the 86 men a week campaign which has been openly mocked on threads like this

No to strip clubs, and no to porn.

I know. I'm not much fun as a MRA.

The thread title is specifically about male violence. You clicked on it knowing that.

So what else do you think will end male violence?

Well if they claim to be something then that's alright then. As men have never claimed to be something they aren't, have they...

I answered what I thought might be worth considering in this specific case, which is what the OP was about.

I totally, totally agree with your second part. I regularly read on here that there is a lack of people sticking up on threads where women are bashed, but I can't imagine as many men sat around discussing these types of topics as sites like these.

There are hundreds and thousands of MRA and Incels groups,forums and subs where the only focus is to bash women. Not only do they spread hate, but they incite and encourage violence . Sometimes that even spills in real life, with real women as victims.Funnily enough nowhere near as many men(if any) defending women, as women defending men on here.

But what do you think can be done about male violence generally?

Neither have women. They're as perfect as the day is long.

Do you hear how ridiculous you sound?

If he claims to be a feminist, he's lying. If he claims to be a nice guy, he's lying. They'd honestly be better declaring them an arsehole and being done with it (oh sorry, if they do that and women still choose to marry them and have families with them, when they are ultimately an arsehole, that's their fault too!)

By your logic though, I'm not a mens right activist so therefore no further PPs can call me that. Cheers.

Is there a reason you, and others, are avoiding the case the OP was talking about?

I can tell you exactly why.

Its because hes a child, and PPs know this will generate some understanding or attempts to work out reasoning.

If he was a man, nobody would bother.

Ok. So… you’re saying you think the definition of rape from the Sexual Offences Act 2003 is wrong and should be rewritten?

What do you think can be done about male violence generally?

I don’t know enough about that case and I’d find it too upsetting to read.

So we should not bother to have our own opinions because of some nutters on the internet? We are real women with an opinion. Should we not be allowed it?

Do you hear how ridiculous you sound?

The irony.

There lies the problem.

OP has posted a case we know nothing about and generated a discussion from it based on nothing to do with the case at hand (she's chosen a particularly emotive one, which is why Im surprised no one has referred to it).

You cannot solve a problem without looking at the cause. And unfortunately, "male violence" was not the cause. If a woman murdered her husband, I promise you the response would be posters lookng to find causes for her behaviour. Why do we not do that for the 14 year old boy? because hes a male? or because we struggle to accept that ultimately the issue is not black and white?

i can cope with you thinking im ridiculous, since you are exactly the type of poster who is anti-men (and you are, as youve just outright claimed if they say theyre feminists theyre lying).

@stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou ok, but what are your solutions for stopping male violence? You must have some theories?

I'm not even sure it's misogyny that causes these homicides. There are tens of thousands of couples violently rowing every hour. A tiny percentage result in death and it's unsurprising that it's the weaker partner that usually dies. If women were 3x as strong as men I doubt as many would be killed.

My mate is a copper and she told me ages ago that they deal with nearly as many male suicides every week as they do female homicides each year. Is this because men also hate men?

I don't think misogyny is the answer because lesbian relationships have the most violence of all. Men are just much stronger and have lots of testosterone which has been proven to increase fight or flight response and raise aggression/violence in men, women, and animals.

That's just what I think.

Pumper....

I have addressed, numerous types, how the types of crime IN THE OP should be addressed.

But im asking you, what are your theories for solving the general problem of male violence?

"A tiny percentage result in death and it's unsurprising that it's the weaker partner that usually dies. If women were 3x as strong as men I doubt as many would be killed."
Spot on.

86 men a week kill themselves. But threads like this wont address this because its just as another "Haha, see the bad men".

I totaly, totally agree with every word of your post.

I'm not anti-men but I'm aware that whilst women commit crimes against men, male violence towards women far, far outweighs women violence towards men. Men also commit the most crimes towards other men.

I'm also puzzled (and disappointed) that women can't solely discuss the above without women jumping in with NAMALT.

I'm also aware of the legal definition of rape in the UK.

But why?

That wasnt the OP's question.