Is this racist?

[ToastedWaffle]

Okay.... so my ex was over at my house tonight to see our kids (he often does this).

Eldest DC was brushing their teeth whilst the same time trying to ask my ex a question.

Because you couldn't make out the words DC was saying with the toothbrush in their mouth, ex then proceeds to imitate the 'sound' saying something like "wah sah wah ha insert random sound here Are you Chinese or something?"

I've just had my arse handed to me by my ex for pointing out it was casually racist and could he not say things like that.

He has kicked up a massive stink which involved shouting, swearing, in which I asked him to leave. Still, the kids overheard him as he was being deliberately loud in shouting at me.

I'm sat here confused as hell.

Yes, he is. I'm mixed race and my kids 'pass' as white as in you would never know there is black in them. Both have light skin, eyes and hair.

What is becoming uglier and uglier is the racism on this board that you demonstrate perfectly. When told it's racist, you still try to argue. You won't be told will you.

See, here's the thing. My ex also refers to Scots as sweaty socks and scousers as scallies. I absolutely detest it and used to tell him to stop when we were together. Can't stand what he will be imparting to my children, none of it sits right with me.

So nope, I won't "lighten up" on this topic. I feel like he crossed a line last night with his mock accent

Why should they be told, they are entitled to their opinion whether you like it or not.

Heavens an adult needs to be told! How arrogant.

What is becoming uglier and uglier is the racism on this board that you demonstrate perfectly. When told it's racist, you still try to argue. You won't be told will you
Get over yourself. I never said it easy racist people like you seem to get some innner pleasure at pointing out that others are racist that is really not healthy.

My point is that some such people will think nothing of insulting others and that's OK because of their narrow-mi ded view that insults are OK as long as they don't signal race.

This is nothing but hypocrisy. My focus is on avoiding hurting someone's feeling. My French friend actually finds the expression funny, same as all the Hello Hello comments people make to her all the time. Others wouldn't. Same as some Chinese people wouldn't be insulted by what the OP's ex said. Others would.

Good people do their best not to insult others, they don't go about lecturing others on the definition they chose of what racism is. They focus on the impact of their own actions before patronising others.

They're entitled to their opinions yes, but not their own facts. The fact is that it's racist. There's no getting around that, and I/we won't re-write the facts because these people don't want to face what they are.

That’s your opinion, people have theirs. Who are “these people” anyway, do you know them personally?

YABU Seriously some people live to get offended by others. If i was your ex id just roll my eyes and move on. MN is no reflection on society than god its full of virtue signallers all hugging each other and singing cum by arse every time some one utters some thing they can find to be offended about.

Stop telling people to 'get over yourself' or to 'lighten up'. If you can't discuss maturely without resorting to such immature invalidations, then don't post. Good people don't act like a 12 year old dismissing people telling you facts. If you can't cope with facts, then that's your problem, not ours.

If you see it as racist, why are you on here for validation of your judgement? Others, including myself are seeing it as childish, dated mickey taking. Casual racism, another term for those seeking to be perpetually offended. I am seeing some sterotyping of white ppl. White, Middle class mothers etc. Funny how not many bat an eyelid at that.

They're entitled to their opinions yes, but not their own facts. The fact is that it's racist. There's no getting around that, and I/we won't re-write the facts because these people don't want to face what they are
Can you please enlight me as to what I said you deem racist!

Only narrow-minded people speak of 'facts' to defend their position! They can't even accept that only scientific evidence is fact, not opinions or beliefs, let alone just theirs!

Good people do their best not to insult others

Agree with this bit which is why I can't stand the fact that he is teaching my kids that actually, insulting others is okay as long as you don't say it directly to their face. I doubt he would have said what he said if my Chinese friend was present.

A fact is not 'opinion'. That's where you're wrong.

More arrogance, more assumption.

'Stop telling people to 'get over yourself' or to 'lighten up'. If you can't discuss maturely without resorting to such immature invalidations, then don't post'
Haha coming from someone who rd ne that I won't be told!!!

Maturity is certainly not expressed by telling others that you beliefs are facts!

A fact is not 'opinion'. That's where you're wrong
We agree on this. Maybe you might want to apply this to yourself.

@mustlovegin you need to learn to read properly because I didn’t say “most white people fail.” Your comprehension skills and graph/statistic analysis are poor. The document I sent you stated that only 50% of white British students passed their English and Maths GCSEs. This is really shocking.

Nevertheless, this thread shows just how “acceptable” it is for people in the UK to be racist towards Chinese people and other East Asians.

And pleasedo tell me what I said that you believe was racist?

OP, I'm sorry your thread is being derailed by a small group of racist trolls. The majority thankfully see it for what it is.

If you see it as racist, why are you on here for validation of your judgement? Others, including myself are seeing it as childish, dated mickey taking.

So certainly not the behaviour i want seeing modelled for my kids from their parent. To me it was racist at worst and at best pig-ignorant. If my kids said something like this there would be words.

Exactly, a belief isn't a fact. What I stated wasn't a belief. It was a fact.

Well my username gives away my heritage.

It was racist and Chinese people themselves tend to be a bit less vocal about racism they endure. But I remember being mocked at school with made up words like that and I don’t like it. Same thing happened to mixed race DS and DD at school.

I see people have mentioned school grades, it’s one area where there is hard data available on grade outcomes and race.

I have no need to. I stated a fact.

I wonder what people's stance is when the upper class English accent is mocked. Is that 'casual' racism?