To be annoyed that Jude's ice cream have gone mostly vegan and are no longer gluten free?

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Royally pissed off. And shouldn't labelling be better regulated to ensure only products made with real milk and cream (aka dairy) are called 'ice cream'? Oat paste should be marketed as something else.

Being the '1st carbon negative ice cream company' will not make any difference if the product is no good or cannot be eaten due to allergens🙄

Who's advising these companies?

Agreed - M&S was also our go to for gluten free food when out and about but the range and availability has been massively reduced. This has coincided with the growth in their plant based range.

Have also noticed that the gluten free selection in Sainsbury's has reduced. They used to offer a great range of gluten free breaded and battered fresh chicken. Now there is just one frozen offering in our local decent sized store.

I don't want to eat fake dairy and I want it to be obvious what a product is. I wouldn't expect ice cream to not contain milk unless it was clearly labelled dairy free.

Have you ever seen a vegan ice cream not clearly labelled so?!

Let me try again.

Jude’s make ice cream.
It used to be gluten-free. Brilliant!

Jude’s want to be a carbon-negative business because they don’t want to contribute to climate change by manufacturing their ice cream.

As part of these changes, going more plant-based to reduce dairy, they are no longer labelling their products gluten-free. Not brilliant for coeliacs But brilliant for vegans!

(But in fact as you have no idea why they’ve changed to no longer labelling gluten free - because you haven’t asked - you can’t say the impact of their carbon-negative plans has definitely caused it. You’re making an argument based on assumptions.)

Perhaps Brexit and the state of the economy / inflation has led them to make changes?

Or maybe they found a more ethical / climate friendly factory, but they can't guarantee GF

It does sound like you are blaming vegans with their ‘trends’. 🙄 Less animals being exploited and trying to help the planet are good things. It’s ice cream though. Nobody needs ice cream.

No one wants to end up in a situation like Pret A Manger with Natasha Ednan-Laperouse (they had followed the law as it then stood, but had a shit storm of bad publicity) or worse Byron Burger and Owen Carey. Better to write "may contain" every allergen that ever enters your premises and lose a few sales than to inadvertently harm someone and be completely put through the ringer by the press and authorities as a result

Adding a blanket 'may contain' disclaimer just to cover their backs (which is what you seem to be suggesting) is lazy and won't help the various allergy sufferers. It will just mean that they will be forced to eat elsewhere - and they may not be just 'a few sales'

Nobody needs ice cream

What other sources of nutrients do you think should be withheld from us?

@Knifer You are the only person confirming stereotypes

As I've now clarified umpteen times, veganism is a legally protected philosophical belief. That doesn't mean you have to agree, any more than with any other belief. But being blatantly insulting and disrespectful reflects poorly on you. So does a persistent failure to recognise that vegans are as likely as anyone else to have medical needs, and the dichotomy you're trying to suggest is meretricious.

The information is still there and on the front of the packet - it's just that the customer goes "chocolate brownie ice cream, that sounds nice, oh it's vegan but I'll still have it" instead of "oh it's vegan... <stops reading>"

Still deceitful

Calling a deeply held philosophical belief a 'trend' is goady. Do you routinely refer to other beliefs as trends? I bet you don't. You're only applying that term in order to insult vegans because you're offended by the fact that this ethical view exists (or the fact that many people practise it and advocate for it).

Strongly suggest anyone who is interested consider watching Dominion (for free!) to find out more:

www.dominionmovement.com/watch

(I am totally unaffiliated with this documentary, just recommending.)

If they are so confident that customers will eat vegan ice cream and will support them in their climate change endeavours, why not label them clearly and prominently?

Why do you think they’re confident customers will support them in their ‘climate endeavours’ (which you make sound meaningless)?

Isn’t it likely they know most customers couldn’t give a shit about the climate and just want tasty ice cream from a brand they trust - but that’s not going to stop them pursuing their core value of trying to minimise their negative impact on the environment?

It's kind of weird to hate vegan ice cream this much, tbh.

Oh come off it. The information is on the front of the packet.

Do you honestly think calling it Ice Cream (vegan) is deceitful compared to Vegan Ice Cream? It's the same three words!

just want tasty ice cream from a brand they trust

Hmmm..so they changed their offering substantially, not informed customers properly of new allergens and you cannot spot the difference unless you scrutinise the packaging very closely.

Not sure you can say these are the 'tasty and trusted' products we used to be able to buy.

Is the word "Vegan" repeated over the lid not prominent enough for you?

Its to prove a point. Omnivores happily eat let's say bourbons...label them vegan and they will stop

But don't they do both? I bought some the other day, the dairy icecream was next to the green topped vegan. The sticky toffee pudding one is amazing.

🙄 I don’t think anything should be ‘withheld’ from you. But it’s ice cream. A company has changed their product line. Are you saying if you don’t eat ice cream you can’t get those nutrients from anywhere else?

They do. 😂

Yes. Imagine having that thought process. 🙃

@Same1977 You are totally right. So spiteful and bizarre. You'd think this was the only ice cream brand in the world, or that dairy ice cream had been made illegal, or something!

I can't eat dairy, wheat, oats or soya as well as a bunch of other things so finding things to eat, especially treats takes a bit of work.

My dietitian suggested the Roar Salted Caramel & Macadamia Ice Cream.

It's Almond based & gluten free and tastes amazing.

Doesn't help with eating ice cream out & about but i just keep my freezer stocked up & eat it at home.

Narked?

Well, if you call being pissed off, angry, upset, that a product that used to cater for those with a disorder that can make you very ill, shorten life span, kill you has been thrown over to cater for those with an eating preference, being narked, then yes. I suppose you are right.

And ice cream is by definition a milk based product. So yes, it is annoying and nothing like the examples you gave. There are actual names for frozen desserts that are not dairy based.