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Oh do piss off, Harry

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HettySunshine · 20/04/2022 11:34

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/20/prince-harry-says-queen-on-great-form-during-visit?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

The Queen has coped for most of her life without you. I don't think she needs you 'protecting her' now.

I'm usually entire ambivalent to the royals but this has really bruised my cherry!

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DeeCeeCherry · 26/04/2022 21:38

He could have had his pick from many younger, prettier aristocratic girls who shared his culture and values

The fact that it is taboo to criticize her for absolutely anything at all, for fear of being accused of being a vile racist has aided her more than anything

Oh the irony.

How densely unaware can you get? Not that racists are blessed with intelligence in any event.

As for 'younger, prettier' - oh please. Youth isnt the holy grail for all men. & If you think Meghan isnt pretty (you know a 40 year old woman CAN be pretty 🙄), then youre in denial

Prince Harry has said his mum was chased to her death whilst with a non-White man. Good that he's mindful.

He was smart to get out of town, too many deranged weirdly obsessive folk over here wishing them ill and actively hoping for their downfall. He his wife and children are safer and better off out of it.

Got up from the table left the bitter racists behind and they cant stand it.

Theyll be clacking their jaws and stirring their cauldron unto eternity.

Meanwhile H&M look happy, M is positively glowing lately. 40 looks good on her
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Swayingpalmtrees · 27/04/2022 10:05

Actually Meghan looks like she has a shit load of botox and now has that waxy plastic look many US women acquire at a certain age.

SockFluffInTheBath · 27/04/2022 11:30

Prince Harry has said his mum was chased to her death whilst with a non-White man. Good that he's mindful.

Is the implication that the paps wouldn’t have been chasing one of the world’s most bankable celebs that night if her lover was white?

ajandjjmum · 27/04/2022 12:50

SockFluffInTheBath · 27/04/2022 11:30

Prince Harry has said his mum was chased to her death whilst with a non-White man. Good that he's mindful.

Is the implication that the paps wouldn’t have been chasing one of the world’s most bankable celebs that night if her lover was white?

Hasnat Khan had been Diana's non-white (if that's relevant) lover for several years, and I have no recollection of them being caught by the paps.

LetitiaLeghorn · 27/04/2022 14:01

Prince Harry has said his mum was chased to her death whilst with a non-White man.

I think Diana had a definite right to privacy in her private life. But wasn't it her who rang the press to tell them where she'd be when she was with Dodi Fayad? Weren't those pictures on the boat, etc, deliberately engineered so that the press could put pictures of them kissing on the front page? It might be when she got to Paris, she wanted her privacy again, but when you're tipping off journalists, it's unrealistic to expect that they will lose interest at your command too.
What happened to her was awful. But it's immaterial who was sat next to her in that car. If that last holiday had been with a white guy, pictures of her kissing would still have engendered the same frenzy, the paparazzi would still have followed her and the chauffer would still have been drunk.

AnastasiaRomanov · 27/04/2022 14:21

I think Harrys perceptions of everything now are extremely skewed. He seems to have completely lost his bearings. One minute the UK will always be home, , the next he just thinks the US is so much better in every respect.

He believes the paparazzi chasing his ‘Mum’ were doing so because her lover was not white. He doesn’t see that her own choices led to her death in part.

He believes his father is a mean horrible person who won’t bankroll his ‘securidee’ indefinitely, yet they say they mean to be financially independent.

He needs to protect his grandmother from malign influences, yet he has never taken his children to see her since they left and didn’t go to his grandfather’s memorial service. He trashed the family as Philip lay dying. He starts law suits at every opportunity.

Hes been welcomed into the community he lives in with open arms, yet apparently is never seen there and has made no efforts to get to know anyone.

Lecturing people on working from home, the pandemic and mental health as if he’s some sort of authority.

Causing untold misery to his own family whilst whittering on about mental well-being and kindness.
He’s a laughing stock.

Wheresthebeach · 27/04/2022 14:27

AnastasiaRomanov · 27/04/2022 14:21

I think Harrys perceptions of everything now are extremely skewed. He seems to have completely lost his bearings. One minute the UK will always be home, , the next he just thinks the US is so much better in every respect.

He believes the paparazzi chasing his ‘Mum’ were doing so because her lover was not white. He doesn’t see that her own choices led to her death in part.

He believes his father is a mean horrible person who won’t bankroll his ‘securidee’ indefinitely, yet they say they mean to be financially independent.

He needs to protect his grandmother from malign influences, yet he has never taken his children to see her since they left and didn’t go to his grandfather’s memorial service. He trashed the family as Philip lay dying. He starts law suits at every opportunity.

Hes been welcomed into the community he lives in with open arms, yet apparently is never seen there and has made no efforts to get to know anyone.

Lecturing people on working from home, the pandemic and mental health as if he’s some sort of authority.

Causing untold misery to his own family whilst whittering on about mental well-being and kindness.
He’s a laughing stock.

Agree. Increasingly he seems deluded about his importance, and see's nothing wrong with hurting those who use to be closest to him. Its sad, and I can't imagine it will end well. The sheen of being royalty will wear off over time and he'll have to stand on his own two feet rather than trade off being royal and how awful his family is to him. I can't imagine family wanting to talk to him - it will just end up twisted and be fodder for Netflix or whatever reality TV deal they do next.

Mummyoflittledragon · 27/04/2022 16:02

AnastasiaRomanov · 27/04/2022 14:21

I think Harrys perceptions of everything now are extremely skewed. He seems to have completely lost his bearings. One minute the UK will always be home, , the next he just thinks the US is so much better in every respect.

He believes the paparazzi chasing his ‘Mum’ were doing so because her lover was not white. He doesn’t see that her own choices led to her death in part.

He believes his father is a mean horrible person who won’t bankroll his ‘securidee’ indefinitely, yet they say they mean to be financially independent.

He needs to protect his grandmother from malign influences, yet he has never taken his children to see her since they left and didn’t go to his grandfather’s memorial service. He trashed the family as Philip lay dying. He starts law suits at every opportunity.

Hes been welcomed into the community he lives in with open arms, yet apparently is never seen there and has made no efforts to get to know anyone.

Lecturing people on working from home, the pandemic and mental health as if he’s some sort of authority.

Causing untold misery to his own family whilst whittering on about mental well-being and kindness.
He’s a laughing stock.

This is the description of a very chaotic person, who has lost all bearings. For someone with such wealth, privilege and (formerly) great public love, it is really sad. I don’t understand as he’s had years of therapy.

Felicity55 · 27/04/2022 16:17

He is deluded and arrogant.

Quincunx · 27/04/2022 16:50

Felicity55 · 27/04/2022 16:17

He is deluded and arrogant.

Runs in their extended family.

yellowsuninthesky · 27/04/2022 18:19

When they got married it all seemed lovely. But once they started lecturing the rest of us on how to protect the climate while jetting off in private aircraft and having two children who no doubt will have a massive carbon footprint too, they lost my respect.

Also - Harry has been instrumental in the Invictus Games. He's seen a lot of suffering. You'd think he'd have a sense of proportion. But he hasn't.

AnastasiaRomanov · 27/04/2022 20:04

I think he’s a lethal combination of things. Not bright, not got much understanding of ordinary people, not got any gratitude for the tremendous good fortune he has had in many respects. He’s traumatised and it looks like he’s not had decent therapy. He’s looking to another person for guidance on literally everything, and she has her own interests, not his in mind.

He has also lost a lot of friends who might have given him good advice. Instead he’s surrounded by celebrities, sycophants and users.

A580Hojas · 27/04/2022 20:34

I'm interested in why a pp thinks Diana's "own choices led to her death in part". This is victim blaming for someone getting into the car of a driver who had been drinking. Do we blame people for this, really?

WinnieTheW0rm · 27/04/2022 20:38

A580Hojas · 27/04/2022 20:34

I'm interested in why a pp thinks Diana's "own choices led to her death in part". This is victim blaming for someone getting into the car of a driver who had been drinking. Do we blame people for this, really?

She was offered official bodyguards, but she chose to turn them down for herself (she could not decline for the princes, so there was official security when they were there)

It's not a question of blame - more a 'sliding door' choice

A580Hojas · 27/04/2022 21:13

Yep. Victim blaming.

Chilledchablis1 · 27/04/2022 21:23

A580Hojas ·

“Yep. Victim blaming.”

I don’t think it is victim blaming . There are certain facts - Diana refused Royal bodyguards following her divorce. This was well documented at the time . She was concerned ( rightly or wrongly) that they would report her activities to the RF . Had she had Royal bodyguards she wound not have been in a car with a speeding drunk driver . Had she worn a seat belt she might have survived .
it was a tragedy that could have been avoided . That’s not victim blaming .

AnastasiaRomanov · 27/04/2022 21:52

A580Hojas · 27/04/2022 20:34

I'm interested in why a pp thinks Diana's "own choices led to her death in part". This is victim blaming for someone getting into the car of a driver who had been drinking. Do we blame people for this, really?

she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and wasn’t using Royal protection officers because she didn’t trust them. She was courting media attention. Not blaming at all, but it wasn’t the photographers alone who caused her death. It was a combination of factors.

Luculentus · 27/04/2022 22:05

A580Hojas · 27/04/2022 20:34

I'm interested in why a pp thinks Diana's "own choices led to her death in part". This is victim blaming for someone getting into the car of a driver who had been drinking. Do we blame people for this, really?

It's not blaming, it's a simple statement of fact.

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