To think if you vote Tory now…

[Joanna1988124]

You’re effectively propping up this absolute shit show of a government and have no empathy.

I’ll be honest, I’ve voted conservative before as a middle class family their (taxation) policies have suited me more than Labour. I honestly feel ashamed of this and I wish I could’ve seen that the conservatives agenda of ‘levelling up’ is BS.

Regardless of your personal situation, enough is enough now right? People are reliant on food banks, they’re choosing between heating and eating. Austerity has been a total nightmare for society causing the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.

@user1471447863

You might think the Conservative party are bad but apparently the electorate deem the Labour party to be even worse. What's your excuse if Labour cannot get themselves elected against such a bad government?

What's your excuse if Labour cannot get themselves elected against such a bad government? FPTP, boundary revisions and Brexit mostly - but also the current lot hadn't actually shown us all just how utterly corrupt nasty and useless they were in 2019.

Most people who voted didn't vote for this shower of shit.

We'll see next time, won't we?

Four I agree with you. Posts like that make me think why have the left just given in to insults and not much else

Partygate has been enough to turn my lifelong tory parents against the party, at least for the next election. They absolutely can't stand Johnson, and the toadying by his MPs. People saying it's 'just about cake' are spectacularly missing the mood of the average voter.

You can be right-wing but you should want a competent government, and this government is one crisis after another. And it needs to be punished at the ballot box.

@JayAlfredPrufrock

So who are you going to vote for?

I don't even think I will to be honest. I'm genuinely at a loss as to who I would vote for so how can I.

It's funny really because you're not ashamed, but you don't need to be ashamed because your vote tells the world exactly who are as a human being. So it doesn't really matter how you feel- you just are and probably always will be awful.

Fancy calling someone 'awful' because they have a different political view to yours.

You see this so often in the left wing so called progressive politics.

You disagree, you are awful, stupid, a bigot, a transphobe a turkey voting for christmas, must be a bot, a troll. etc etc.

Rather than addressing WHY people don't see the Left under the current Labour party as a viable alternative you resort to name calling.

For balance I'll add: if Labour can't win against this shower of hubristic dickheads then they don't deserve power.

There has never been less optimism in living memory, the leader's personal polling is terrible, and costs are about to go into overdrive. The political ground has never been more fertile for a new party.

I have never and would never vote Tory but with Keir starmer leading Labour, I won't vote for them now either.

I'm politically homeless and ok with it.

But YANBU, Tories are cunts 🙂

Oh yes I'd forgotten the 'useful idiot'. Add that to the lists of insults flung by the oh so progressive and socially aware left.

@Capri3
Income tax is not the only tax we at in our lives. To address your statement, the top 1% may pay 30% of income tax revenue but that is a simplistic headline. VAT, council tax and NI are also huge considerations to low income households. In fact, this more honest picture shows that the lowest earners are hardest hit when we consider what they pay as a percentage of their income - which, let's face it, is what matters.

I’m very surprised people still want to vote for them, but those that do are so committed it’s pretty useless trying to debate with them.
Plus I don’t really have anything to say to people who look at the living crisis and the amount of children in poverty and think “yeah, the Tories will fix this”. Or they don’t care if it gets fixed. Either way.

Boris and his 'campaigning', non elected half-wife are typical of many who presume they are above 'normal' sanction. The world is full of them and they merit repugnance.
A lot of Tories are not so but obviously focussed on getting re- elected and retaining 'power' - typical of any politician.
That said, all you talk about is a world crisis not just uncaring at home. I struggle to see how labour could have coped with (formerly Dianne Abbot as Home Secretary - Jesus !)
In my world, the Tories are least worst but that doesn't make them any good.

@TooBigForMyBoots

Resentments? Nah, I've listed what the Conservative party have actually done while they were blindsiding you all with "But Labour" and you bought it hook line and sinker.

The Tory party is a bunch of lying, self serving cunts. But sure yeah, this time they're telling you the truth.😂😂😂🤥

Thank you for you considered and we'll articulated views. I'll be sure to give them the attention they deserve.

"That said, all you talk about is a world crisis not just uncaring at home. I struggle to see how labour could have coped with (formerly Dianne Abbot as Home Secretary - Jesus !)"

But Labour isn't that party anymore, is it? Probably why the left now hates Johnson more than Starmer and would welcome a tory landslide.

*hates Starmer more than Johnson, rather!

What did you think of Zelensky’s views btw in previous post?

I couldn’t access the link you posted but from what I’m aware of that speech I believe that Zelensky may have been trying to utilise any leverage the UK may have in influencing the EU. I don’t think that’s much tbh. EU countries have far more reliance on access to Russian gas than we do and any action they take still has to be in the best interests of each countries citizens. Plus geographically a number of countries are in a much more precarious position than we are. Zelensky has the balancing act of impressing the seriousness of the situation and needs of his country against offending those who he wants to offer help.

I think I’ve declared my stance openly enough that I’m clearly biased in my next statement that Boris has much less than other EU countries to gamble by simply stating support. He hasn’t gone on record as far as Biden for example and called on the Russian people for a complete regime change.

I really think you’d find the LBC interview with the Ukrainian MP today interesting. It was on David Lammy’s guest show today and available to download. It starts at about 2:05 and is probably just over ten minutes. My sense from that interview is that any good feeling towards international (not just the UK) support is on the wane as it’s clear this is not going to be resolved anytime soon.

Yes, Zelensky's a hero but his flattery of Johnson to secure more arms and nudge other leaders into doing the same should be read as practical statesmanship rather BJ's shining quality. The UK has generally been good at sending weapons but we can thank Wallace for that as much as anyone.

It's funny really because you're not ashamed, but you don't need to be ashamed because your vote tells the world exactly who are as a human being. So it doesn't really matter how you feel- you just are and probably always will be awful. But you'll never believe that

Wow whatuser! Are you as rude in rl to anyone who disagrees with you about anything?

Sure a bit of positive reinforcement in place I do it with dc ;

Also agree Wallace has been good, but it is still U.K. he chose for whatever reason, I’m ok with that. Better than the opposite in any case.

Cornetto I do like LBC and have heard some very good stuff on there. I remember this changed at some point as before that it was something I avoided. Thanks for info will listen later.

But Labour isn't that party anymore, is it? Probably why the left now hates Starmer more than Johnson and would welcome a tory landslide

I don’t understand this. If Labour supporters hate Starmer because he’s not left wing enough why would they welcome a Tory landslide - which is even less left wing?

@lifeturnsonadime

why wouldn't you want to live in a society with excellent health and education provision for all

I agree who wouldn't but as I recall this didn't happen under the previous Labour government either, they seemed more interested in fighting illegal wars.

And left the economy in a dreadful mess.

But it did happen under the last Labour government. They left office with the shortest waiting times in the history of the NHS.

The economy was in a mess because of a global economic crash, every government in the world was in trouble. Have you looked around recently? The UK economy is a complete basket case now.

By the way, I gave you a link to current Labour policies after you repeatedly complained nobody was doing your research for you - any comment or is it all a bit inconvenient?

@GeneLovesJezebel

Didn’t Jeremy Corbin have a family meal when he shouldn’t have ? And I don’t care about that either.

No, it was a wake. Other people turned up making the gathering larger than that allowed by the guidelines at the time.

@Wintersonata

But Labour isn't that party anymore, is it? Probably why the left now hates Starmer more than Johnson and would welcome a tory landslide

I don’t understand this. If Labour supporters hate Starmer because he’s not left wing enough why would they welcome a Tory landslide - which is even less left wing?

Because if Starmer loses badly the left thinks it can retake the Labour Party.

@Wintersonata

It's funny really because you're not ashamed, but you don't need to be ashamed because your vote tells the world exactly who are as a human being. So it doesn't really matter how you feel- you just are and probably always will be awful. But you'll never believe that

Wow whatuser! Are you as rude in rl to anyone who disagrees with you about anything?

How do people post these insults and not see the irony

I'm not a Labour voter. Or a Conservative voter, but I want the Conservatives to clean up at the local elections. Mwahahaha.