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To think if you vote Tory now…

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Joanna1988124 · 12/04/2022 21:48

You’re effectively propping up this absolute shit show of a government and have no empathy.

I’ll be honest, I’ve voted conservative before as a middle class family their (taxation) policies have suited me more than Labour. I honestly feel ashamed of this and I wish I could’ve seen that the conservatives agenda of ‘levelling up’ is BS.

Regardless of your personal situation, enough is enough now right? People are reliant on food banks, they’re choosing between heating and eating. Austerity has been a total nightmare for society causing the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.

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longwayoff · 19/04/2022 23:37

"The Conservative party isn't governed by ideology" . This version is, it's an actual cult of Right wing ideologues and Brexiteers with the old familiar Tories banished for refusing to worship at the Brexit shrine and say how wonderful Bozo is. Odd that you haven't noticed this pp, many are wondering where their country has gone to, hijacked by the current mob of grasping chancers.

Florenz · 19/04/2022 23:38

I think Labour need to figure out even how when so many people are pissed off with how things are, they aren't surging ahead of the Tories. Or they could just keep going as they are, losing elections and then calling people stupid/evil for not voting Labour.

2Rebecca · 19/04/2022 23:43

We had birthday cakes at work during lockdown. No singing but we don't do that, just people helping themselves to cake in a sort of socially distanced way. We probably socially distance more now than we did early in the pandemic when it was all new and odd. They should have always had more guidance and fewer laws

Fulmine · 19/04/2022 23:47

@2Rebecca

We had birthday cakes at work during lockdown. No singing but we don't do that, just people helping themselves to cake in a sort of socially distanced way. We probably socially distance more now than we did early in the pandemic when it was all new and odd. They should have always had more guidance and fewer laws
I take it you didn't have your partners, interior decorators and photographers?
Cornettoninja · 20/04/2022 08:02

MintyMoocow · 19/04/2022 23:35

Oh Goody! This thread is backConfused

Did it go somewhere?

SleeplessInEngland · 20/04/2022 08:59

I think Labour need to figure out even how when so many people are pissed off with how things are, they aren't surging ahead of the Tories.

Labour has been comfortably ahead in polls for the last 4 months.

There's definitely an argument to be made that they need stronger policies beyond "we're not lead by Boris Johnson", but with the cost of living crisis coming up it's very hard to see a route back for the tories (unless they actually have the guts to get rid of their toxic leader).

Parker231 · 20/04/2022 09:29

Am looking forward to PMQ’s!

Cornettoninja · 20/04/2022 10:13

Parker231 · 20/04/2022 09:29

Am looking forward to PMQ’s!

Boris isn’t there is he? I’m sure I read he’s flown to India.

Cornettoninja · 20/04/2022 12:11

BJ is at PMQ’s in a change to his previous timetable.

SleeplessInEngland · 20/04/2022 12:25

Johnson is asked why Stratton had to resign but not him. He just says he's 'very sorry' about that.

Blossomtoes · 20/04/2022 12:33

SleeplessInEngland · 20/04/2022 12:25

Johnson is asked why Stratton had to resign but not him. He just says he's 'very sorry' about that.

Yet another question he can’t answer. He really is hopeless.

SleeplessInEngland · 20/04/2022 12:50

Imagine what a sociopath you'd have to be to carry on as leader knowing that someone, somewhere has a stack of photos of you at another lockdown party and how that alone doesn't make you want to resign before it inevitably comes out.

Cornettoninja · 20/04/2022 13:49

Yet another question he can’t answer. He really is hopeless

James O’Brien offers an observation that gives me some clarity on Boris’s MO. He doesn’t need to have answers because he’s using stamina. He just has to cling to his position till it all dies down and goes away.

that’s why the narrative is so strongly leaning on moving on and ‘getting on with the job’. Whether he’s right or wrong is irrelevant, if he ignores it for long enough it’ll go away.

And he’s right to some degree, there are calls from some quarters for us to move on so actual ‘issues’ can be focussed on. People have evaluated the situation and decided that we can’t spend any more time on this ridiculous scenario. I get it and I sympathise to some degree but it’s precisely because it’s so ridiculous that this is still taking up so much space that this cabinet aren’t suitable for the roles they’re occupying. They’re the ones dragging it out with no regard for the consequences. if they had a hint of integrity they would remove themselves simply for being such a distraction.

nobody is that important or talented that they cannot be replaced.

the argument that there’s no one who could take over who would be as ‘good’ is a dangerous one. If we can’t remove a proven lawbreaker and liar from office what does that say to the world and potential politicians?

Blossomtoes · 20/04/2022 14:20

the argument that there’s no one who could take over who would be as ‘good’ is a dangerous one. If we can’t remove a proven lawbreaker and liar from office what does that say to the world and potential politicians?

You’re right. It’s also a fallacious argument. We saw yesterday that, if we must have a Tory PM, Mark Harpur would make quite a decent one.

HRTQueen · 20/04/2022 19:32

There are many Tory MP’s that would make a better PM

its who will hold on to a comfortable majority none who seemed to be in the running at the moment would. I don’t think the Tories would gamble on Jeremy Hunt. Certainly won’t be Rishi Sunak (convenient).

vote tomorrow will be interesting

Labour should absolutely be doing better now in the polls. I’m sure they were 8/9 points ahead in December. They are not in a comfortable position

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