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Logan Mwangi TW: Child Abuse

211 replies

Merryoldgoat · 11/04/2022 22:26

I’m just so sad. Why do these dreadful people do this?

I want to breathe the life back into him and take him away from all that pain.

I’m a fairly rubbish parent a lot if the time. But I just can’t conceive of the evil that does this to a poor little child.

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girlfriend44 · 30/06/2022 18:09

Here we go again another child murdered.

Make a bloody example of them. Give them the death sentence.

Will someone with some balls grab hold of the justice system and do something. We need to send out a strong message.

How do they even think they will get away it, let alone want to do it,it beggars belief.

girlfriend44 · 30/06/2022 18:11

Spanglemum · 21/04/2022 16:56

It's appalling. John Cole had previous convictions for violence towards a child. Why do these women prioritise their violent partners?

Because they are crap human beings themselves.

girlfriend44 · 30/06/2022 18:13

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 21/04/2022 23:43

RIP Logan you beautiful little boy.

I hope that racist, violent, unemployed, layabout, scumbag gets what’s coming to it inside and I hope the thing that gave birth to him (I will not call it a mother) never ever have a restful nights sleep until its dying day.

If you don’t want your child, give them up for adoption. Fucking animals.

This is also controversial but I don’t think the 14 year old will ever be safe to be fully free. They should be tagged/monitored for life as they’re clearly very damaged and a danger to others. Being released completely free in their 20s will pose risks to many unsuspecting people.

You say animals. Animals don't do that to their young.

You mean vile human beings.

the80sweregreat · 30/06/2022 18:15

Another beautiful little boy murdered by people who will live forever on tax payers money. I hope they rot in jail and life is hell for them in there.
Logan didn't stand a chance, bless him
It is so sad.

anybloodyname · 30/06/2022 18:16

Yip . The 14 year old is the son of Cole's ex partner

Logan Mwangi TW: Child Abuse
girlfriend44 · 30/06/2022 18:20

Merryoldgoat · 22/04/2022 20:02

A few people have picked up my issues with step parents so, to be clear so there’s no more wilful misunderstanding:

  1. I don’t think all step parents are evil
  2. I don’t think women have to remain single forever
I simply would not make the choice to live with someone else if my marriage failed. It doesn’t mean I wouldn’t have a new relationship, I just mean I’m not interested in creating a blended family.

I think lots of women prioritise a partner over children and cannot cope being alone with makes vulnerable children even more at risk.

You've got to go right back to basics and stop people snagging around and having kids but it's not going to happen.

None of these children live with both their bio parents.

tralalom · 30/06/2022 18:21

So Craig Mulligan... He gives me chills... Cole and him, what a disgusting duo... Thanks to those pointing out father was denied custody. But couldn't he have insisted seeing his son, wasn't he talking to him on the phone at least, didn't he demand any access on the weekends etc? I guess covid helped that racist sob more. But still.. Wasn't he suspicious at all?

doitwithlove · 30/06/2022 18:22

These people & others like them deserve to be hung - yes it is a strong thing to say, what do these people bring to society - that is the big question ?!?!

Mybumlooksbig · 30/06/2022 18:27

I am heartbroken, this seems to be happening so much at the moment. The case of Arthur broke me... poor children
Why do people do it, why oh why 😪

the80sweregreat · 30/06/2022 18:28

They bring nothing to society at all.
They will just be a stain on the tax payers keeping them alive , fed and watered when they were capable of-such evil.
There is something sick at the heart of society and too many innocent children are ending up losing their lives because of it.
If only someone could have saved him.
I guess ' lessons will be learnt '
..

MrsLargeEmbodied · 30/06/2022 18:42

the williamson person apparently was privatley educated but turned to crime early, stealing her mother's credit card.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 30/06/2022 18:43

the named boy sounds like an absolute psychopath, as does the Cole bloke

wicked wicked wicked

RobynNora · 30/06/2022 18:59

I had a similar thought @tralalom and if it were Logan's biological mother living away while this happened at the hands of dad and new partner, everyone and his dog would be asking why mum didn't have any inkling.

But I guess we don't know the circumstances and there could be lots going on for his dad. I don't know how much about how custody works and maybe he tried really hard and felt frustrated there was nothing he could do. As you say, lockdown perhaps exacerbated a bad situation. It's so deeply sad that nobody was able to look out for the lovely little chap. RIP gorgeous boy.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 30/06/2022 19:43

Merryoldgoat · 22/04/2022 07:53

@nellytheelephant1980

there are fantastic step parents and I’m not saying no one should blend families but it’s not something I would consider.

it’s moot for me as DH and I are happily married and he’s their father.

but both of mine have ASD and I wouldn’t want any unnecessary disruption for them.

I would certainly never consider it with a man I barely knew but you are correct that the real issue is those not fully cognisant of the risks and those without resources.

Well OFC you say that if you’re happily married.

The key message should be that there are ways of taking precautions if you are a single parent who wants to date. First among them being to take your sweet time. Unfortunately UK social policy is again pushing poor women to re partner much too quickly, as low wages and benefits are much less survivable than they were. Some people don’t have the internal resources or the external support to withstand the pressures.

Lacey247 · 30/06/2022 19:44

I agree. I am in a happy relationship with the father of my child but if we ever did split, I would not consider meeting anyone else until my child was grown up and out of the family home. I’m pretty much every child murder case there is a step parent directly involved. It’s just not worth the risk to me

icelolly12 · 30/06/2022 21:44

I do think it's too easy to blame social workers who only see a glimpse into their lives. The real issue are that there a significant section of society with very limited/no emotional intelligence, having children who don't actually want/like/care about children, because it's the only way some of these people can get extra benefits aka a lifestyle choice as they have zero interest in working for a living and contributing to society.

And when one of these inept mothers meets a new man, their child is an inconvenience at best, and an active threat to the new relationship at worst, all so she can get her leg over and he can get a house to live in.

And, we only hear about those murdered, there will be many, many more children who never receive love or a kind word, are never told they are loved, never feel love...and so the cycle repeats on and on to the next generation and the next and the next...

It's a societal problem and no amount of social workers will solve the issue.

icelolly12 · 30/06/2022 21:49

Merryoldgoat · 23/04/2022 17:43

@roxyro

Do you know lots of women with such little ambition? I don’t know any and didn’t at school either.

I'm guessing you never went to school in a deprived area then.

girlfriend44 · 30/06/2022 22:38

Merryoldgoat · 22/04/2022 22:17

Cole looks like an evil man, what did she see in him.

I don’t know if it’s a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc rationalisation but the men in these cases often look like such obviously violent bullies I wonder how any woman would go near them.

Because nobody decent wants them.

RobynNora · 30/06/2022 22:51

Anyone else been really upset by this all over again today? Can’t get Logan’s sweet little face out of my head and have been thinking about him all evening.

Merryoldgoat · 30/06/2022 23:04

@icelolly12

HA! I grew up on a sprawling council estate on benefits. Poor enough to be sent to the local shop to ask for credit when my mum was too embarrassed, hiding from bailiffs and Friends Provident collecting their high interest loans every week.

People were poor, people made bad decisions, people had kids young.

I didn’t meet anyone who had that as a goal or ambition.

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Merryoldgoat · 30/06/2022 23:05

@RobynNora

He looks like my little boy. It’s heartbreaking. I truly feel broken hearing about what happened to him.

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Merryoldgoat · 30/06/2022 23:10

@HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd

I had a turbulent enough upbringing to never inflict that shit on my children.

I can tell you now that if my marriage broke down there would be no step parent. Sex and boyfriends away from the kids? Sure. But no cohabitation.

My kids have additional needs and they are my priority.

I have plenty to keep my busy and happy - I don’t need a man and would be perfectly happy without one if my husband buggered off.

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RobynNora · 30/06/2022 23:12

Such a beautiful child who should have been so loved and treasured. I feel so sorry for his dad and wider family too. What despicable thugs for attacking such an innocent little boy. Yes, I feel broken, angry and helpless reading about this case too. And seeing his lovely little face.

Tranquilsea · 30/06/2022 23:15

What can be done is to make the salary of social workers a minimum of £50,000 a year. Then you'd attract more people who want to be social workers, with the result of fewer case loads and more intervention. RIP Logan, it should never have happened.

WisteriaLodge · 30/06/2022 23:15

RobynNora · 30/06/2022 22:51

Anyone else been really upset by this all over again today? Can’t get Logan’s sweet little face out of my head and have been thinking about him all evening.

Me too, poor little sausage, he looked such a sweet boy, I don't know why but the dinosaur and Spiderman clothes broke me, I think it's the innocence amongst all that evil