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Logan Mwangi TW: Child Abuse

211 replies

Merryoldgoat · 11/04/2022 22:26

I’m just so sad. Why do these dreadful people do this?

I want to breathe the life back into him and take him away from all that pain.

I’m a fairly rubbish parent a lot if the time. But I just can’t conceive of the evil that does this to a poor little child.

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Wintersgirl · 21/04/2022 21:38

Spanglemum · 21/04/2022 16:56

It's appalling. John Cole had previous convictions for violence towards a child. Why do these women prioritise their violent partners?

I don't know but it really fucks me off, you see it time and time again...

LexMitior · 21/04/2022 21:42

These cases are all largely the same, which is that the mother very quickly moves in a man/woman who is violent or has a history of the same. That person then quickly targets the child who is getting in the way of having as much access to the mother as they would like, and then the child is othered and isolated for having perfectly normal reactions of being separated from its mother and the anxiety resulting. It is brutal. These women are culpable for their choice of partners and the neglect of the child, and they pretend the new lover is some sort of saint. But the motives are anything but saintly. I think they pretend not to see it, frankly.

ballsdeep · 21/04/2022 21:43

GreenClock · 21/04/2022 19:27

The 14 year old had been in foster care with a local couple, and was abusive towards the wife. He also abused the family dog knowing it had a damaged pelvis (he’d hang the dog upside down by its back legs, and squirt aerosol into its eyes). He said he wanted to kill Logan.

The couple reported it all to the social worker, who denied all knowledge of the matter in court and referred to the teenager’s “banter”. It’s an absolute shambles and a child has paid the price.

I hope these monsters get a suitable welcome from their new flatmates.

The SW were shambolic in his case. After having a shoulder dislocated and poppes back in, numerous lies about injuries ans then a burn to the neck brushed over as an accident with a bath tap, ghey downgraded his case. Its awful

Spanglemum · 21/04/2022 21:44

Some really serious questions need to be answered about this.

Greenmascara · 21/04/2022 22:07

I'm not really comfortable with people describing the 14 year old as evil. He was a child, who was also obviously horrendously damaged by his family.

orangeisthenewpuce · 21/04/2022 22:26

Was the 14 year old related to either of them?

Merryoldgoat · 21/04/2022 22:28

I will never understand the desire for a relationship over and above the desire for your child’s happiness.

Many women just do not seem to be happy being alone.

I just wouldn’t ever introduce step parents into my children’s lives. Boyfriends? Sure. Random sex? Why not. But a cohabiting step parent? No bloody chance.

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nellytheelephant1980 · 21/04/2022 22:48

Merryoldgoat · 21/04/2022 22:28

I will never understand the desire for a relationship over and above the desire for your child’s happiness.

Many women just do not seem to be happy being alone.

I just wouldn’t ever introduce step parents into my children’s lives. Boyfriends? Sure. Random sex? Why not. But a cohabiting step parent? No bloody chance.

I share your total horror over this young man, literally my heart breaks for him.
But I can’t agree with you saying that you would never have a step-parent for your child. My first husband died when my baby was 8 months old. Should I never have found love again? Because actually I did, with the most wonderful man who adopted my son when he was 6 (he’s now 19 years old). We’ve had 3 more children and he is a fantastic father to all of them. My son adores him, he’s the only father he’s known and their bond is no different to our biological children.
Had I stuck to your rule, I’d still be alone and miserable and my son would not have had a father or his 3 siblings.

I think you are referring to people who don’t have the resources to meet a suitable partner/husband/stepfather, but you can’t expect a blanket ban on serious relationships for single or widowed mothers.

BurgerKingAddict · 21/04/2022 22:55

Cauliflowersqueeze · 21/04/2022 16:49

Animals don’t treat their babies like that

I said that to my husband tonight.
Once again I am sad about a baby who didn’t stand a chance. Murdered by the people who were meant to adore him and protect him.
What scares me is that it will be another child we will be reading about in a few months.
Sometimes I hate humans!

Fluffmonkey82 · 21/04/2022 23:00

Horrific case, poor wee boy. The CCTV footage is so disturbing, the lights going on and off in his bedroom..don't know how she managed that display for the police, must have rehearsed that well..

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grenlei · 21/04/2022 23:28

Williamson came from a relatively well off family and was educated at private school. So you can't say she was poor/ lacking in opportunities. She did make a lot of poor choices though. She chose to move her son hundreds of miles away from his father, then marry a bloke she barely knew. When that predictably turned to shit she latched onto the first bloke she met and got pregnant by him almost immediately, despite the fact he was a racist bully, unemployed and with a record of assaulting women and children.

Starseeking · 21/04/2022 23:35

@SnottyLottie

I’ve seen in various news articles that the abuse (at least on the stepfather’s part) was racially motivated due to Logan’s mixed heritage and that he (stepdad) was a member of the National Front. Logan was kept away from his father and maternal grandmother because of their race/heritage.

Absolutely heartbroken for that beautiful little boy. Yet another child let down by people who were meant to protect him. It never ends.

I felt desperately sad for poor Logan when seeing the reports about the NF stepdad. Logan's life must have been a living hell with a stepfather like that. His mum is pure evil to have allowed her DS to be abused like that in his own home.

RIP Logan.

Starseeking · 21/04/2022 23:39

@Merryoldgoat

I will never understand the desire for a relationship over and above the desire for your child’s happiness.

Many women just do not seem to be happy being alone.

I just wouldn’t ever introduce step parents into my children’s lives. Boyfriends? Sure. Random sex? Why not. But a cohabiting step parent? No bloody chance.

Me too.

One of my DC has additional needs, and is extremely vulnerable. Now I'm a single parent, I'm more anxious about my DC being taken advantage of, or abused by someone who appears good on the face of it, so have vowed to conduct any future relationships outside our home.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 21/04/2022 23:43

RIP Logan you beautiful little boy.

I hope that racist, violent, unemployed, layabout, scumbag gets what’s coming to it inside and I hope the thing that gave birth to him (I will not call it a mother) never ever have a restful nights sleep until its dying day.

If you don’t want your child, give them up for adoption. Fucking animals.

This is also controversial but I don’t think the 14 year old will ever be safe to be fully free. They should be tagged/monitored for life as they’re clearly very damaged and a danger to others. Being released completely free in their 20s will pose risks to many unsuspecting people.

ZoeCM · 21/04/2022 23:54

There's too much denial in our society about the dangers of introducing step-parents into a child's life. You see threads on here where a child doesn't want their mum to move her boyfriend into the house, and posters actually act as though the child is in the wrong: "you're letting a thirteen-year-old run your life", etc. It's crazy: moving an unrelated adult into a child's life increases their chances of being abused or even murdered, yet children who are instinctively wary of this danger are portrayed as selfish and spoilt. It's not socially acceptable to put any other vulnerable group at risk in this way, or to castigate them for trying to protect themselves.

Merryoldgoat · 22/04/2022 07:53

@nellytheelephant1980

there are fantastic step parents and I’m not saying no one should blend families but it’s not something I would consider.

it’s moot for me as DH and I are happily married and he’s their father.

but both of mine have ASD and I wouldn’t want any unnecessary disruption for them.

I would certainly never consider it with a man I barely knew but you are correct that the real issue is those not fully cognisant of the risks and those without resources.

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Merryoldgoat · 22/04/2022 07:54

@ZoeCM

i agree with you 100%

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millytint44 · 22/04/2022 08:15

So much vitriol, snobbery and downright misogyny on this thread. "Chav mums", "thing who gave birth", "evil" about a child.

Not to mention haranguing of Social Services who do their utmost in a chronically underfunded, unsupportive, broken system.

Bagelsandbrie · 22/04/2022 08:15

Merryoldgoat · 22/04/2022 07:53

@nellytheelephant1980

there are fantastic step parents and I’m not saying no one should blend families but it’s not something I would consider.

it’s moot for me as DH and I are happily married and he’s their father.

but both of mine have ASD and I wouldn’t want any unnecessary disruption for them.

I would certainly never consider it with a man I barely knew but you are correct that the real issue is those not fully cognisant of the risks and those without resources.

It’s easy for you to say that because you are happily married.

I met my dh when dd was 5 and we’ve been happily together since then, she’s now 19 and we also have a ten year old son together. We are a very happy family and treat both children the same, no issues whatsoever. Dd sees dh as her dad. I was on my own as a single parent from when she was 6 months old till when she met dh but I didn’t want to be on my own forever - I also wanted another child and another chance at having that 2 parent family. If I had waited until she was an adult to meet someone I would have missed that opportunity (I would have been too old to have another child) and dd would have missed out on the joys of having a little brother.

For every horror story out there there are tons of positive stories like mine where things have worked out fine. But yes people need to be vigilant and not blinkered and yes of course children should come first. Always.

Catlady2021 · 22/04/2022 08:17

See these cases all too often now…

lollipoprainbow · 22/04/2022 08:20

Utterly inept social services yet again. How many times do we see this?? It's always 'lessons will be learnt' and having to hear how stretched and short staffed social services are. It's not good enough.

itsgettingweird · 22/04/2022 08:21

I just can't get my head around so many bits if it.

Firstly how a mum can fake such a phone call about their child and carry it on. Knowing they were involved in their death and their body has been disposed of. The fact they could even be involved in the first place is beyond my ability to understand but but the rest ......... ?

How the step dad and and the teenager could dump that poor boys body in a river. How does a 14yo get to the point they can do that at such a young age?

It's just ...... well I don't know. It seems so cold and calculated but I do wonder how family units come to the point where the abuse and then even murder their children and how it then gets to the point of dumping them.

RIP Logan and may your dad find some peace in his life. Flowers

BrylcreamBeret · 22/04/2022 08:28

I understand the vitriol against the perpetrators of this crime, I see that it is a highly emotive subject but I don't think bandying the word "chav" around helps the victim. That word could easily be used to describe me but I'm not a feral mum. Words have power, be careful how you use them.

Also, I don't think step parents are pure evil like so many here believe to be. My stepdad saved me from my abusive alcoholic mother and went on to adopt me. Again, words and power ...

How and why social services continue to fail vulnerable children is beyond me and needs to be addressed immediately though.

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