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To be finished with voting Tory

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Viviennemary · 03/04/2022 16:47

I've voted Tory in the last couple of elections. Didn't like Corbyn and thought Keir Stammer was a bit feeble. But after that smug performance by Sunak I am totally not going to vote Tory for a very long time. We are now in a position not to be affected too much by recent rises. Not always been that way of course. I wonder if others are feeling the same. But the lack of any sort of help for less well off people makes me absolutely sick. And all decided by a multi millionaire.

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Pitafalafel · 03/04/2022 20:47

I will never vote Tory and will 99% vote Labour at the next election. That being said it will make little difference to 90% of people (other than the richest 1% and the poorest 10% perhaps) who wins the next election.
The time to vote for real change was in 2017 - pre-Brexit - when it was Corbyn against May. That Labour would have delivered a radical programme of deep investment in services and long term growth, while also making sure the most vulnerable could ride out tough years like this one. That ship has sailed. Now we’re almost certainly just back to fake caring centre-right Tories vs centre ground New Labour.
Whoever wins the next one we’ll be facing the same problems and rehashing the same arguments ten years from now.

Hbh17 · 03/04/2022 20:51

The current Government are actually very un-Conservative. This is primarily because of the lockdowns (when they would have been expected to support citizens' freedom of choice), but also the rise in NICs (raising taxes usually being a Labour move). So they run the risk of losing some of their traditional voters unless they actually return to more Conservative policies.

Coffeeonmytoffee · 03/04/2022 20:53

Well good for you.

I still think they’ll be re-elected. I’ve given up hope.

Crikeyalmighty · 03/04/2022 20:53

The lady voted Brexit because she was fed up of the EU calling the shots— we were part of that EU OP!! If we had full engaged properly as we did till 2010 then ‘WE’ would be one of the parties calling the shots— and with regard to questioning the courts— be right handy now when British flyers for instance have little protection or recourse to compensation — those were all EU rules. I’m glad the OP though has seen the light. The gvt are a bunch of failed Apprentice candidates with zilch proper business experience using their own cash and not other people’s money. They are a bunch of shallow, self serving ambitious weirdos.

MarshaBradyo · 03/04/2022 20:53

@Hbh17

The current Government are actually very un-Conservative. This is primarily because of the lockdowns (when they would have been expected to support citizens' freedom of choice), but also the rise in NICs (raising taxes usually being a Labour move). So they run the risk of losing some of their traditional voters unless they actually return to more Conservative policies.
It’s a good point. Who would those voters turn to in your opinion?
user1487194234 · 03/04/2022 20:55

Have never and will never vote Tory

LaMagdalena · 03/04/2022 20:57

I've never voted Tory and never will... unfortunately I live in a solidly Tory constituency, so my vote is pretty much worthless Sad

OrangeBananaFish · 03/04/2022 21:01

@LaMagdalena

I've never voted Tory and never will... unfortunately I live in a solidly Tory constituency, so my vote is pretty much worthless Sad
Snap. Rishi is my MP. I didn't vote for him and never will.
DigsDilemma · 03/04/2022 21:02

I don't vote Tory. However, I also really dislike all the people on this thread who have piled on to the OP for ever having made a mistake (which they have now realised, and plan to correct in future). Do you know you're part of the problem? There's just as much polarisation and failure of tolerance on the left as there is on the right, and people who have insults hurled at them are much more likely to take refuge amongst the Tories.

lovescats3 · 03/04/2022 21:02

On the day met police issues fines for partygate Tories have a party in a hotel and Johnson jokes at it don't worry you won't get a fine for tonight -that tells you all you need to know . What do you think those people who's relatives died alone feel?

bevelino · 03/04/2022 21:03

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

My tory MP is David Warburton yippee. I have no idea how he managed to get a local psychiatric bed the tosser when the rest of us can't get one even when we're climbing the walls.
Warbuton will be tucked up in his private hospital bed. There is no way that yesterday he had no psychiatric illness, but today having been exposed by the Sunday Times he suddenly has a psychiatrist illness.
lovescats3 · 03/04/2022 21:03

If you live in a Tory constituency still vote against them

HappydaysArehere · 03/04/2022 21:08

My problem is that our local Tory Council is pretty good. However, our Tory MP sits in his safe seat and does as little as possible. I have never even had an acknowledgement for the two emails I have sent. So what to do in the Council elections! I want to register my complete dissatisfaction with the Johnson government but not at the expense of our Council who seem to be doing a decent job. 🤔

Fordian · 03/04/2022 21:09

Confession. I voted Tory.

In May '79.

I was 18.

I haven't made that mistake again.

DeeCeeCherry · 03/04/2022 21:10

Pixiedust1234
I've never voted tory but right now they are the only party that knows what a woman is biologically. Since rapists are being put into womens prisons and womens hospital wards now is the time to say #nothankyou, not #bekind. Its shit tbh

But this is happening now. Under a Tory government. Not Labour. Tory.

Ludicrous logic

Awalkintime · 03/04/2022 21:11

Although I would be quite happy with high taxes if we had good public services.

No chance of that for us under Labour either around here. All our A n E services were closed and our Labour MP we had at the time was very vocal in saying she was proud of their actions when it happened. I'd rather a party who actually would care about the NHS instead of Labour or Tories.

ilovesooty · 03/04/2022 21:14

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

My tory MP is David Warburton yippee. I have no idea how he managed to get a local psychiatric bed the tosser when the rest of us can't get one even when we're climbing the walls.
Perhaps they're reserved for well off men having a mid life crisis . Hmm
SpringHasSprungYay · 03/04/2022 21:19

Please don't vote Tory.
Ever.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 03/04/2022 21:21

@Hbh17

The current Government are actually very un-Conservative. This is primarily because of the lockdowns (when they would have been expected to support citizens' freedom of choice), but also the rise in NICs (raising taxes usually being a Labour move). So they run the risk of losing some of their traditional voters unless they actually return to more Conservative policies.
I don't know how this lie about Tories being tax cutting keeps getting repeated.

Even the Thatcher years saw an increase in taxation both as a percentage of GDP and in actual cash.

All Tory tax changes typically do its shift the burden from rich to poor.

Mulberry974 · 04/04/2022 07:36

@HappydaysArehere

My problem is that our local Tory Council is pretty good. However, our Tory MP sits in his safe seat and does as little as possible. I have never even had an acknowledgement for the two emails I have sent. So what to do in the Council elections! I want to register my complete dissatisfaction with the Johnson government but not at the expense of our Council who seem to be doing a decent job. 🤔
You can vote for your local Tory councillors but just not vote Conservative at the general election. They are completely unrelated.
Brefugee · 04/04/2022 07:41

But the lack of any sort of help for less well off people makes me absolutely sick. And all decided by a multi millionaire

you didn't notice this in any of the previous Tory manifestos? Governments?

I haven't read all the comments, only yours so I'm sure you've had it pointed out to you that this is what the Tories are. So I'm sure everyone has been thanking you for making their lives that bit more shit.

And now it's too late. Because i think the NHS has gone now. It is being dismantled to sell to the highest bidder. Russian and oil money dictates what the government does. And the gap between the haves and the have-nots is widening at an exponential rate.

But also British politics has Americanised. What we used to think of as vaguely right wing or centrist is where the bulk of the Labour party are now. And laws and policies that are enacted in countries like Sweden and Finland are seen as practically communist.

Can it be fixed? who knows

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 04/04/2022 07:49

But also British politics has Americanised. What we used to think of as vaguely right wing or centrist is where the bulk of the Labour party are now. And laws and policies that are enacted in countries like Sweden and Finland are seen as practically communist.

This is so true and it's such a shame.

Jonny1265 · 04/04/2022 08:09

I've never voted Tory and never will. Labour are a shit show at the moment and Lib Dem haven't recovered from their fling with the Tories so it doesn't leave many options......

balalake · 04/04/2022 08:09

OP, interesting that it is one out of touch Chancellor that finally is the last straw for you.

I'm surprised 20,000 avoidable deaths and a leader who ill-treats women was not the final straw.

ssd · 04/04/2022 08:53

@LaMagdalena

I've never voted Tory and never will... unfortunately I live in a solidly Tory constituency, so my vote is pretty much worthless Sad
Try being Scottish...
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