To be finished with voting Tory

[Viviennemary]

I've voted Tory in the last couple of elections. Didn't like Corbyn and thought Keir Stammer was a bit feeble. But after that smug performance by Sunak I am totally not going to vote Tory for a very long time. We are now in a position not to be affected too much by recent rises. Not always been that way of course. I wonder if others are feeling the same. But the lack of any sort of help for less well off people makes me absolutely sick. And all decided by a multi millionaire.

@Suedomin

"The taxes etc will be worse under Labour.* What evidence do you have for this? We now have the highest rate of tax ever. The problem is it is hidden. Although I would be quite happy with high taxes if we had good public services and a more equitable society but at the moment we have high taxes, terrible public services and people relying on food banks to eat

I’m so tired of this excuse, we have astronomical hidden taxes yet vital services have been under resourced & stripped to the bare minimum we’ve all been seduced by jam today, selling of practically anything of value so as to make the rich even more richer & avoid tax rises that we may actually notice, if our taxes & those of the tax avoiders were used in a way that benefit all of us, improve quality of life/expectations/wellbeing surely this has to better than the abject misery so many of us are enduring. We have a government led by a proven liar, aided & abetted by a talentless stupid cabinet who have wilfully & knowingly blindly followed ideology of a hard Brexit whipping up the rhetoric of the right wing press with hostile environment/only the deserving poor should receive any support a chancellor that was shamed by a footballer otherwise no help would have been given to children during the holidays, the list is endless thats without going into billions of pounds wasted/hived off over the last two years.

Actually ssd we may have forgotten her flirtation with UKIP when the Tories were too soft.

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I don’t think people who vote Tory actively want to see people struggle or die. I think people who vote Tory only think what might benefit themselves. What they might gain. How they might be better off. Instead of thinking about what might be better for everyone, especially those with the least, the most vulnerable, and for their children. For wider society. They think how they, as individuals might be better off. Not how we, the wider society might be better off. I’d much rather Tory voters were at least honest about that. Especially now it has come to bite us all on the arse.

@ssd

Mmmmm....I've seen lots of your posts *@Viviennemary*, you've got tory through you like a stock of rock. Your new found conscience doesn't wash with me.

Oh Lord only just realised who the OP is, must admit does seem quite an epiphany Vinniemary

@Viviennemary

I voted Tory because I thought they would waste less money on daft schemes. But billions gone on useless PP equipment and furlough fraud. And nothing to be done about it. And contracts for ppe gone to their mates. I voted Brexit because I was sick of Europe calling the shots and challenging our courts. But final for me was Sunak. And trillions grabbed in profit for the power companies and savings never passed on to the customer. All rubber stamped by the tories. A good few steps too far.

I've seen you post on here for a long time, and I'm astounded that this - of all things - was the last straw.

Cash for access
Expenses scandals
Windrush
Proroguing Parliament
Bullying
Lies
More lies
Still more lies
More bullying
The entire pandemic - the PM not showing up for meetings, going on holiday, not reading his briefing papers, parties, contracts, PPE shortages, acting too late on every single decision, allowing patients into care homes from hospital without testing them... The list goes on
The Brexit omnishambles
Current handling of the energy crisis

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom#2010s
boris-johnson-lies.com/ - this is very interesting reading indeed. And all can be verified.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-50-lies-gaffes-26013022 - longer list including behaviour before becoming PM.
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-jennifer-arcuri-priti-patel-prime-minister-michael-howard-b1991890.html

But a millionaire MP is what's put you off their political party? Good grief.

@hulahooper2

I don’t understand why anyone ever voted for them

Because a lot of people vote for the person they feel better represents their constituency

@Pixiedust1234 that’s what’s happening now, under this government. How can that be the other parties’ fault?

“I don’t like what’s happening now so I’m to vote for it again”

I voted Tory once, back in 2015, because as a housing association tenant I would like the opportunity to buy my house with the same discount that council tenants can get (I can have 10k discount but council is £84,600 - a BIG difference). They were voted in and the law passed yet 7years down the line I still can’t buy my home as it is still going through a “trial” in only certain areas. I learnt from that, and then 6 subsequent years of working in a secondary school, that you should never ever vote Tory. Never again.

Because a lot of people vote for the person they feel better represents their constituency interests*

[quote BitOutOfPractice]@Pixiedust1234 that’s what’s happening now, under this government. How can that be the other parties’ fault?

“I don’t like what’s happening now so I’m to vote for it again”[/quote]
This
It makes no sense.

I honestly don't know why anyone voted for my tory MP.

He's a tory for a start.

He doesn't do ANYTHING for the local area. During storm Arwin most of his constituency went without power for 10+ days. During that time he didn't answer calls for help, prefering (for example) to do a photoshoot with his mates planting trees. Twat.

Thank fuck for that!

As an NHS midwife I hope other Tory voters see sense while there is still an NHS to save!

@Timeforausernamechange22

I voted Tory once, back in 2015, because as a housing association tenant I would like the opportunity to buy my house with the same discount that council tenants can get (I can have 10k discount but council is £84,600 - a BIG difference). They were voted in and the law passed yet 7years down the line I still can’t buy my home as it is still going through a “trial” in only certain areas. I learnt from that, and then 6 subsequent years of working in a secondary school, that you should never ever vote Tory. Never again.

You sure sound like a tory. Buy your housing association property on the cheap and end that property being available to help another renter get a home.

@Nanny0gg except that argument is a nonsense because a. We have no idea which of the candidates would best serve the constituency when the same one is voted in again and again and b. Many MP’s are patently crap constituency MP’s (like mine. Massive majority. Never seen in the town) yet they get voted in again and again because of the party they represent.

I won’t lie, I was raised by Tory voting parents who despise labour so it has probably rubbed off a bit. I was clearly the disappointing black sheep who ended up pregnant and single at 19. I’d love to own a property but where I live in the south east, prices are insane. An average 3 bed house is 10x the average wage. Buying my housing association home is the only way I can buy. It’s not my fault they don’t build enough and have let house prices increase exponentially but not wages

Ending FPTP & replacing with PR would make a massive difference.

Glad to hear it! I do wonder why any one would ever have voted Tory though? This kind of behaviour isn’t new from them is it? What have I missed?

YWBU to have ever voted Tory. End. Of.
They’re a bunch of self-serving twats, who only consider their own wealth, and fellow rich mates. Wankers.
I would like to think I will go to my grave having never knowingly voluntarily associated with, or shagged, a Tory.

@IOnlycreatedaccountforthispost

At the end of the day, who you vote for is a personal choice. It usually depends on your family situation and where you are in your life at that time. I refrain from judging others harshly for voting for a party that I may not agree with and I have to say I am often aghast at some of the vitriol that is spewed on MN!

Here, here!

I mean Hear, hear! lol

Politics is broken for the last twenty years it’s been a case of voting for the lease worst option. And the fact we live in a safe LD seat helps.

But since 2016 no fucking way ever voting for the tories again.

And between Johnson and Sunak you couldn’t get a bigger pair of scum bags.

We need rid of party politics. With the current system being twisted so it’ll almost be impossible to not have a Tory government.

They’ve got to go and soon. Preferably to prison.

Print the Russia report
Print the sue gray report in full.

Never voted Tory and never would.

@Suedomin

"The taxes etc will be worse under Labour.* What evidence do you have for this? We now have the highest rate of tax ever. The problem is it is hidden. Although I would be quite happy with high taxes if we had good public services and a more equitable society but at the moment we have high taxes, terrible public services and people relying on food banks to eat

This in a nutshell.

My tory MP is David Warburton yippee. I have no idea how he managed to get a local psychiatric bed the tosser when the rest of us can't get one even when we're climbing the walls.