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To be gobsmacked at friend

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searchingforsomethiing · 28/03/2022 15:08

I am part of a group of friends (there are 6 of us) we are all 40 and have known each other since school.

My closest friend in the group I’ve known since primary school. She’s struggled with money in the past due to various things and I’ve always helped her out. I’m in a reasonably high paid job and I’ve given her money and been explicit that a) I didn’t want it back and b) it was between us and not to say it our friends which she was always in agreement with.

Over the past couple of years I’ve given her probably in the region of £400 and done a lot of shopping for her as well get her kids good birthday and Christmas presents. Again there’s no expectation of this in return and I’m glad to help where I can. She’s on a more even keel these days so I haven’t helped in a little while.

Cut to Saturday night, and we were out for dinner with all the other girls. My friend had a bit to drink and announced to the table loudly and that I’d been giving her money because I thought she was a “charity case” and she knew I’d been telling them all privately what I’d been doing. She was really vitriolic about it. I was absolutely mortified and so were the others.

It was incredibly awkward and I excused myself from the table and when I returned it was exceptionally difficult to keep any conversation going because she was obviously unhappy.

I left the meal not long after. I’d given her a lift to the restaurant and she expected one home but I left without giving her the chance to join.

I don’t even know how I feel tbh. I don’t know what came over her and I feel like the friendship is over.

OP posts:
MintyGreenDream · 28/03/2022 18:34

Dont give her money in the future youd be a fool to after that outburst.

RonSwansonsChair · 28/03/2022 18:37

You sound like a lovely, kind, generous friend. I'd give her one chance to apologise and explain, after that I would be cordial but nothing more.

Catclean · 28/03/2022 18:42

I wouldn't really want to speak to a friend of mine in these circumstances. I'd probably just message and say that I had always kept my word and not discussed even with my husband. Sorry if I've made her feel like a charity case but now that I understand I obviously won't help her financially again.
I would be tempted to say if she's that upset about it here are my bank details to repay... but I wouldn't.

Ilady · 28/03/2022 18:44

I can just imagine how embarrassed you were after hearing what we she said. The rest of group did not know what to say to her. I wonder how she got home that night? I am sure the others have been talking about her and her behaviour. Have you spoken to any of the others yet and heard what your other friends think?
I would be in no rush to get in contact with her. Let her come and apologies to you. Let her realise how much she of a mistake she has made. I am sure of one your other friends have spoken to her about what she did. Even if she apologies to you I would not be as available as your were in the past for her.

A few years ago one of my friends was great friends with this lady. This lady was having a horrible time and my friend was always there for here and she helped her out financially. She never said to anyone what she did for this lady.
During the whole COVID situation this lady said she was staying home as much as possible because she did not want to get COVID but still meet her other friends in a local town and not my friend. My friend is single, living on her own and a lot of her other friends are in relationships so she likes meeting up, going out for meals ect but has not a lot of people to do this with.
This lady will keep in contact with my friend via FB pm but has excuses any time my friend wants to meet her face to face or go somewhere. She thinks doing this will mean that my friend will drop all, give her advice and support when times get tough like my friend did in the past.
Last year my friend had a major birthday and this lady did not even send her a card.
I know it just a matter of time until my friend has words with her. My friend had plans but COVID brought them to a halt and she trying to sort out things going forward.

searchingforsomethiing · 28/03/2022 18:44

@Cocomarine

At no point did I wander off Hmm I excused myself from the table before I destroyed her in a restaurant full of people for being an absolute witch.

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TheRealistBub · 28/03/2022 18:46

She should very much be an EX-friend now.

carefullycourageous · 28/03/2022 18:50

@searchingforsomethiing

Clearly she behaved very badly, but I wanted to say that once I got absolutely wasted and caused a scene and called some reasonable people some rude names almost entirely due to my own issues. This was a long time ago I may add. I was mortified, they genererously forgave, I sorted myself out.

I think try to focus on staying calm and seeing what happens next - you have clearly done nothing wrong, but she may be having some sort of crisis so maybe just let the dust settle.

Really sorry this happened to you Flowers.

searchingforsomethiing · 28/03/2022 18:51

I took the advice of various posters and sent her a message along the lines of

“Your outburst on Saturday night was humiliating for you and completely untrue. I hadn’t even told David* about any money I’d given you never mind the girls. I’m sorry you feel like a charity case. The best way to resolve this is to pay the money back to the following account. I’ve given you £400 in cash. In future, if you feel irate about something that plainly isn’t true, speak to me first to clarify before embarrassing yourself”

She read the message and hasn’t responded 🤷🏻‍♀️

I know it’s a harsh message but I’m honestly appalled she spoke to me like that and thought so low of me that I’d discuss her financial situation with others.

OP posts:
carefullycourageous · 28/03/2022 18:54

She read the message and hasn’t responded

She may be an arse or she may not know how to respond.

Billybagpuss · 28/03/2022 18:55

Did you mean to put in DH name? If you report your post they can edit it for you.

But good message it will be interesting to see if she responds

Justmuddlingalong · 28/03/2022 18:57

Good for you, OP. Don't let her confuse your kindness with gullibility.

searchingforsomethiing · 28/03/2022 18:58

No that’s why there’s an asterisk! It’s not his real name. I meant to write that underneath

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KosherDill · 28/03/2022 18:59

This will be a wake-up call for her.

But even if she comes back with excuses/apologies, I would never feel the same.

Some things just can't be unheard.

Appleby11 · 28/03/2022 18:59

If she felt like a charity case and felt that badly about it, why did she accept the money?

ScreamingBeans · 28/03/2022 19:01

I excused myself from the table before I destroyed her in a restaurant full of people for being an absolute witch.

Sorry, what?

MzHz · 28/03/2022 19:01

Astounding and strong response and absolutely the right move.

One way or another the friendship is over so you may as well get your money back.

Anniefrenchfry · 28/03/2022 19:01

Well done. In this instance I think thr message was appropriate. I wonder if she will respond or just compound and ignore you,

Duchess379 · 28/03/2022 19:03

What a horrid woman! That relationship has definitely run its course. I liked your text message to her. If she's that embarrassed she'll pay you back the money. It really hurts when it's a friend you've known for so long 💐

niugboo · 28/03/2022 19:03

Brilliant message to her and absolutely the right way to handle it.

My guess you won’t hear a peep.

NdefH81 · 28/03/2022 19:04

[quote searchingforsomethiing]@Cocomarine

At no point did I wander off Hmm I excused myself from the table before I destroyed her in a restaurant full of people for being an absolute witch.[/quote]
And that was the alternative to you walking off?

Being a complete witch
You sound lovely

Cocomarine · 28/03/2022 19:04

[quote searchingforsomethiing]@Cocomarine

At no point did I wander off Hmm I excused myself from the table before I destroyed her in a restaurant full of people for being an absolute witch.[/quote]
Yeah, so you wandered off. I find that odd. But hey it’s small potatoes in the context of coming back and publicly destroying her.

RishiRich · 28/03/2022 19:05

Great response OP. Have any of your other friends said anything? Awkward as.

MadMadMadamMim · 28/03/2022 19:05

@LuluBlakey1

I couldn't leave it at that.

I would message her to say

'I have no idea why you behaved so badly on Saturday but just to be clear- I had not told anyone, even DH, that I had given you money. You and I agreed it would be between us and I kept to my word. As far as I was concerned I was helping you, as someone I considered a very good friend, not expecting any of the money to be paid back and certainly not telling anyone else about it. I have never considered you a 'charity case'- just a friend who needed a bit of help at a difficult time and I was glad to be able to do that.

I am appalled by your behaviour on Saturday and upset that you would treat me in such a horrible, unkind way.

You ruined the evening, embarrassed everyone, humiliated yourself and have destroyed our friendship.'

This is excellent.

I'd copy and send exactly as it is. It is telling that she hasn't contacted you to apologise already, if this was Saturday night.

MissAmbrosia · 28/03/2022 19:06

So you kept a track of exactly how much money it was? She probably does think you see her as a charity case. Asking for it back now when it was "given" not loaned is a bit overkill.

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 28/03/2022 19:07

You showed great restraint by leaving the table op...
Your message was good.
Sadly the friendship is over.
I hope you get your cash back.

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