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If having kids is so awful, why do we do it?

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Lilybow · 27/03/2022 12:36

Pregnant with my first and in my third trimester. The majority of things other mums tell me are:

"You think you're tired now, you will have a shock when baby is here"
"You and your husband will never go out together alone again"
"Your social life is gone"
"Baby will demand your attention 24/7 and you will be desperate for 5 mins to yourself"
"Hardest thing you'll ever do"
"I hope your baby doesn't have colic, you don't want that"

I'm not under any illusions that parenthood will be easy, and i know my life will change, but I'll be honest I'm pretty terrified as apart from the occasional "oh how exciting" comment, people keep telling me how hard/boring/exhausting it is and how my life is over.
I need some reassurance that my life isn't over and it's not that horrific.

OP posts:
Speakingmymind · 27/03/2022 14:02

If having kids is so awful, why do we do it?

So when you get old you are not alone

Fupoffyagrasshole · 27/03/2022 14:04

I hate this - people kept saying to me ohhh get your sleep in now cus you’ll never sleep once baby is here - thanks - it’s not like you can bank up a load of sleep can you so that’s useless advice

I was so nervous tbh !!

It’s not that bad at all I have to say - yes you are tired a lot especially in the early days - but if you have a partner you can take turns sleeping :)

For a while I used to get into bed at 7pm and husband would stay up until 1am with the baby and just take her into me when she needed to be fed - then I took over the night time and I’d gotten a nice 6 hours sleep so it wasn’t too bad I have to say

She’s 1 year old now and I look back at it and think yeah maybe one of the hardest years of my life but it was worth it and I love her so much and I love being a mum!!

I’m starting to feel like myself again and I do get to go out with husband way less than before - but I go out with friends regularly

And there’s always babysitters so we can got to stuff together occasionally

It’s all fine :)

dottydodah · 27/03/2022 14:04

CounsellorTroi WTF is with people these days! I would never say or think such a thing .My friend is unable to conceive and has built a good life for herself with dogs /chickens and so on. Im sorry you have been unable to have DC and sorry that such an idiot made a comment like this to you ,Maybe people dont always think .Perhaps they should engage their brain!

HoliHormonalTigerlilly · 27/03/2022 14:05

@Speakingmymind

If having kids is so awful, why do we do it?

So when you get old you are not alone

If you resent parenting so much, you may not bring up children who want to spend much time with you when you are old though. M

If you don't want to have kids then don't.

I'm genuinely sorry for those of you who have hated it so much. And for your kids too. But don't imagine that this is everyone's experience 🤷🏻‍♀️

LuckySantangelo35 · 27/03/2022 14:05

@Speakingmymind

If having kids is so awful, why do we do it?

So when you get old you are not alone

@Speakingmymind

Lol I hope that’s sarcasm. Having kids is no guarantee you won’t be alone in your old age

LuckySantangelo35 · 27/03/2022 14:07

@HoliHormonalTigerlilly

Alright, perfect mum! 😇

Some of us still like doing the child free stuff we did before kids eg going for nights out, spending time with DH alone etc. Having kids makes it harder to do that stuff. No one like the sleep deprivation and nappy changing and all that stuff.

People are allowed to discuss the negatives of parenting and it doesn’t mean they don’t love their kids and that their resent them! Ffs

Mind your halo doesn’t slip 😊

VonWeasel · 27/03/2022 14:08

I enjoyed the pottering around at home, lowering expectations and not doing much. A baby sleeping on me whilst I binge watched something on Netflix whilst eating chocolate was lovely. The tiredness is there but then I discovered Mumsnet so had something to look at whenever I got woken up in the night. Which was a lot. And then one day you emerge on the other side, they start sleeping through, you start venturing out again and rediscovering your old self whilst enjoying watching them grow and develop as little people. It's the best thing I have ever done and that was a real surprise. Wish I had done it sooner and had more. Don't even care about the childbirth experience or the huge caesarian scar. All so worth it. Good luck and best wishes OP.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 27/03/2022 14:11

Because about 3% of the time it’s wonderful

Twixie2022 · 27/03/2022 14:11

OP it’s the hardest thing I have ever done but also the most rewarding. Yes the sleepless nights are hard, yes it can be frustrating sometimes, but for some reason a smile or a giggle from my DS makes all the hard bits go away. This morning for instance, I woke up to my 2 year old climbing on my head and sticking his fingers (claws!)in my ears.. but receiving his little handmade card that he was so proud to give me (and the gin - thanks DP Grin) and watching him be so happy to show me his train set he had build was worth it. Life changes but it isn’t over. You have bigger priorities than before but it’s also a love like no other. Also I felt more tired in pregnancy than I have ever done since my DS was born. Wishing you a happy and healthy Birth and ignore all the negatives. X

HoliHormonalTigerlilly · 27/03/2022 14:11

[quote LuckySantangelo35]@HoliHormonalTigerlilly

Alright, perfect mum! 😇

Some of us still like doing the child free stuff we did before kids eg going for nights out, spending time with DH alone etc. Having kids makes it harder to do that stuff. No one like the sleep deprivation and nappy changing and all that stuff.

People are allowed to discuss the negatives of parenting and it doesn’t mean they don’t love their kids and that their resent them! Ffs

Mind your halo doesn’t slip 😊[/quote]
Some of us still like doing the child free stuff we did before kids eg going for nights out, spending time with DH alone etc. Having kids makes it harder to do that stuff. No one like the sleep deprivation and nappy changing and all that stuff.

Totally agree with this.

But...
There is a difference between discussing the negatives of parenting & telling people you hate everything about it!

CounsellorTroi · 27/03/2022 14:13

@dottydodah

CounsellorTroi WTF is with people these days! I would never say or think such a thing .My friend is unable to conceive and has built a good life for herself with dogs /chickens and so on. Im sorry you have been unable to have DC and sorry that such an idiot made a comment like this to you ,Maybe people dont always think .Perhaps they should engage their brain!
Thank you Flowers
Grumpyoctopus · 27/03/2022 14:14

It's important to have a balanced view. For some people being a parent is almost impossibility hard due to their circumstances - a lack of support, health issues or having a high needs baby/child.

For others it is the best thing ever, and they enjoy most of the experience (I'm not going to say all, everyone has their moments!).

For me it has been hard and life changing as my eldest has special needs and we literally can't go out as a couple any more unless they are at school. We would probably not have had another child had we been aware of this sooner.

I don't go out of my way to say this to pregnant women though, I think that would be harsh and pointless as their experience is unlikely to be the same!

Mumoblue · 27/03/2022 14:18

Having kids isn’t awful.
Also people massively overstate how hard the newborn phase can be, which I guess is to prepare people- but it’s not always that bad.

My son was a very sleepy baby, and I spent most of his newborn life sitting on the sofa, feeding him, cuddling him and playing video games while he slept. I’ll be the first to acknowledge I was very lucky (and some later phases were much more difficult), but newborns aren’t always screamy poo machines non-stop.

I was so concerned that my son WASNT as hard as they said he would be that I honestly thought something was wrong with him.

Don’t listen to people who are just venting their own frustrations about their kids, your parenting journey will be unique to you.

Weightscales · 27/03/2022 14:19

I had a baby 7 months ago. Yeah of course it's hard but honestly, it's easier than my job!

I didn't find it too hard and my baby sleeps. Even during during first 3 months, she'd feed every 4 hours and we got into a pattern of 12 - 4 - 8 am and 12 - 4 - 8 pm. It was fine.

I found the 4 month sleep regression/leap hard but it goes by so fast. You won't believe how quickly they grow.

And yeah date nights are kinda over but I don't want to go out, she's so little, I have no desire to leave her anyway and it's temporary! My Dh and I are absolutely fine sticking a boxset on and having our own date nights at home.

My DH and I love our baby so much, we laugh so much at the funny things she does. It just brought something completely new and fresh to our relationship.

I totally get what you mean because I had all the same stuff thrown at me when I was pregnant but the reality is - if you have a reasonable amount of energy and enough resilience to handle stress and a good partner - it's not that hard. I'm sure it could be with a high needs baby i.e a poor sleeper but it doesn't last forever and take support when it's offered.

Also be kind to your partner. Where I found a lot of people didn't do well it was with constant bickering. I know there are times when my DH would say - urgh I'm so tired and I really had to bite my tongue and not respond - 'you think you're tired!!!!" But it doesn't achieve anything. Simple phrases like - 'it's really hard isn't it' and little acts of kindness meant at least for my DH I got them back tenfold. If I said - yeah you look tired, it's really hard isn't it. He'd be likely to respond 'I don't know how you keep doing it, you're super woman!' Rather than getting into a bickering match over who is more tired.

The single best thing you can do for your baby is raise them in a happy household where the adults are laughing and smiling. I always think that when things get tough. DH and I arguing is only going to make it worse, never better.

Also, it can be natural to swoop in and take over but building Daddy up and letting him have his thing really helps long term. I had a c section so for the first couple of days I couldn't change a nappy and my husband had to. That became his thing. I would say 'you're much better with the nappies than me' - so now even 7 months later he jumps up for nappy changes because he feels good at it. Had I stood over and been saying - you're doing that wrong, he would have more likely defaulted the task to me - not out of spite just because he would have felt not good at it. So try not to nitpick. Again I only say this because it's something I struggle with but not nitpicking meant my DH felt so much more confident getting involved. Make sure you're in it together as a team. Bounce ideas, ask him questions, and talk things through. It's OK to look at your partner and say - I have no idea what to do here, and let them help you, ask them to Google something. The more involved you can get Dad, the easier it will be for you overall.

I have a friend who every time her baby cried she took her back from Dad. So now several months later every time baby cries, Dad passes the baby back and she resents it- but she set it up herself! If you can stop yourself and let Dad deal with a crying fit in the beginning you'll have a more equal approach to parenting. My DH and I talk about 'checking in' with each other. When my baby has gone through teething and collick and would cry, I'd poke my head round the door and say - you still OK and DH would say - starting to lose patience or give me a thumbs up and vice versa. If you can just let Dad find his own way it does help. My DD has her position for falling asleep on Dad that's different to how she falls asleep on me. We just found our own little techniques that work for us.

None of this advice might be applicable to you! But I know that I do nitpick. But we were lucky in that out of our friendship group we were the last to fall pregnant, so we saw things. I saw the ways my friends swooped in with their babies and the dejected look on the Dad's face. DH and I had front row seats to the spats. Dh would share with me some of the upset the Dad's were feeling and how pushed out and resentful they'd become.

So for us, we saw where the traps could be and were determined not to fall in them. The best thing we can give our little girl is a stable home environment with two loving parents who also love each other. So that's what we work towards always. I'm not saying we've never had spats, disagreements or even arguments but we try to keep the big picture in mind more often than not.

HOWEVER! I genuinely don't know how people have a newborn and a toddler! I can imagine that is really hard. I think alot of the comments about motherhood stems from the fact alot of people have multiple kids. We're sticking with 1! Haha.

P.s it can get boring. But as they get a bit older it changes. The monotonous nature's of the days dis start to grate around 5months but past 6 months it started to change.

Also get involved with as many baby classes, swimming, sensory and mums group, NCT etc as possible. It really really helps. Do NCT course. It was brilliant for us. When the baby is 5months just having those things in the diary - can feel like a lifeline. Just sitting in a room with Mum's of other babies the same age and you say - I'm so tired and they say omg I know and you swap stories - it can save your sanity and make you feel much less alone.

Also don't be fearful of your Health Visitor. I love mine and call her a lot with different questions especially around weaning.

Sorry for the long post!

TheMamaYo · 27/03/2022 14:23

The lack of sleep is hard. So is the huge responsibility of keeping a little person safe and healthy and happy. It is non stop, unless you have a super support system. And it is, at the same time, the most beautiful, amazing feeling. You just can’t convey it.
Are your friends generally quite negative??

RussianSpy101 · 27/03/2022 14:24

@LuckySantangelo35 I have 3 but didn’t find it hard and didn’t struggle. I honestly love being a mum and wouldn’t change it for the world. We’re still considering number 4.

RiverRats · 27/03/2022 14:25

I love it, I have a nearly 2 year old and a 4 month old and yes it can be exhausting at times but it’s still the best thing I’ve ever done

Andgettingcaughtintherain · 27/03/2022 14:26

@SpidersAreShitheads it’s not insensitive to me because I don’t want kids rather than can’t have them, and I’m really pleased for you. I know motherhood can be amazing, which is sort of my point, why do those who aren’t mothers get all the amazing stories and those about to become mothers get all the horror stories. I don’t know what those people hope to achieve but all they’ve done is upset the OP, it’s horrible!

winniesanderson · 27/03/2022 14:26

I never had any of these comments but I kind of wish I'd had someone who felt comfortable to take the time to really explain to me what the experience could be like. Both of my children were horrendous sleepers, eaters, colic, allergies etc. Everything was pretty hard going. And I feel looking back that I'd previously had a very rose tinted view of parenting young babies and that this didn't match up to my reality at all. I knew it would be tiring, and I thought I was fine with being tired - night shifts, lots of late nights etc, but I had no idea what this actually would feel like day after day and how it would affect my wellbeing. And all the parenting books and antenatal groups in the world couldn't have given me the knowledge I needed. Because you can't actually explain to another person how relentlessly exhausting it can be.

But, I don't know how much my experiences are true for other parents and I'm a bit of a hypocrite because I would never dream of ruining another mother to be's excitement with negative comments. There are great moments of joy and it's totally worth it. I love my children more than anything. But it is the hardest thing I've ever done and I sometimes long for some me time and head space. I now have a 4 and 13 year old. And in some ways things have gotten much easier but in others are much harder. At times it has taken me to the edge but overall has made me a calmer, better person. Your life definitely isn't over, but for me there were lots of bumpy bits.

Andgettingcaughtintherain · 27/03/2022 14:27

@CounsellorTroi I’m really sorry someone said that to you Flowers I have a friend who can’t have children and I know the horrible things people can say and how much hurt it can cause.

LuckyWithMyLot · 27/03/2022 14:27

Everything you've been told is true I'm afraid. No exaggeration at all.

And I can think of a host of other negatives (constantly cleaning shit, the responsibility like no other, the fear of something going wrong, being judged by others on the decisions you make etc.)

However... it is truly the greatest gift. Nothing fills me with joy like my son. He's so worth it.

Currently TTC #2 so the positives have definitely outweighed the negatives for me.

NdefH81 · 27/03/2022 14:28

I never got any of this
Other than the perfectly natural… enjoy your sleep whilst you can

In any event OP, all the world could have been telling me it was shite, and I would have just shrugged because I wanted my babies desperately but was under no illusion that looking after a baby and then a child - was going to be the biggest challenge of my life in all likelihood

You’re at the start of the journey.
Don’t get pulled in to other peoples experiences or parenting

RussianSpy101 · 27/03/2022 14:29

@LuckyWithMyLot are you serious??? It’s all true? Come on now. The sleep is probably true at first but the rest is a load of crap!

LizzoBennett · 27/03/2022 14:31

I love being a parent OP. My DC is 17 months and he is the light of my life. I think that lots of people just love to be 'real' at the moment about all sorts of things. Terms like 'toxic positivity' etc are being coined and every positive absolutely must be balanced by a negative or else you're not being authentic.

Of course being a new parent has its challenges. Post-partum recovery and adjusting to having less time for yourself or to sleep are realities. I've absolutely loved every stage so far though. I look back on the long late night feeds with a smile, they are precious moments that I only got to share with my little boy just once. I hope I've been authentic enough there...Wink

If you enter into motherhood with an open mind and understand that your life will have different highs and lows then you'll be dandy.

I made sure that I had lots of adventures, pursued hobbies and travelled before I got pregnant, perhaps that helped. I felt very ready and excited to enter a new stage in my life and I was willing to change my priorities.

I also don't think that there is anything wrong with thinking 'this too shall pass' in difficult moments. It makes me adjust my mindset, think about how fast time moves and be in the moment. In the end I think that is key. Being in the moment rather than pining after your old life or looking too far forward to a time when you may have more sleep etc just sours your life.

Congratulations OP!

LuckyWithMyLot · 27/03/2022 14:32

@russianspy101 In my experience every statement holds true for the first year of my child's life, yes.

Obviously as they get older things change, but the first year was a slog (a beautiful one!).

It was also during covid for me, which scuppered socialising and date nights even more.